Blue Jays vs. Yankees: Third Base Prospects

Comparing what the Yankees and Blue Jays have at each position in the minor leagues, we take a look at the crop of third base prospects in each system. Which system is deeper? Which prospects have the most power? The highest ceilings? Take a look at this comparison between the New York and Toronto farm systems.

The Two Farm Systems: Just like it is at the second base comparison, this is another 'no contest' scenario for the Yankees -- the Blue Jays can't really match the overall depth of quality big league third base prospects. With Brett Lawrie seemingly in place for the foreseeable future in Toronto, however, it may not matter as far as them having to fill any internal needs at the position anytime soon.

The headliner from either farm system is Yankees' 2011 first round pick Dante Bichette Jr., the son of former Colorado Rockies slugging outfielder Dante Bichette. He has power potential somewhat akin to that of his father if you take out the 1990-Coors Field home run effect and 'Junior' has the same kind of great mental makeup, but the similarities end there. Because he grew up around professional baseball, Bichette Jr. has so much more of a head start. He already possesses big league plate discipline as a teenager, a former Top 100 amateur tennis player he has a lot more agility and lateral quickness, and he has been indoctrinated like a professional at such a young age. He has all the makings of a potential star player someday.

It's not as if the Yankees only have Bichette Jr. with tremendous upside at the position, however. A 13th round pick out of high school in 2010, Tyler Austin had about as good a debut season as any position prospect could have in 2011, hitting a combined .354 with 26 extra-base hits in 47 games between the GCL and Staten Island Yankees and stealing 18 bases without getting caught. He's not the same kind of defensive player at Bichette, however. He needs to work on his back-hand and slow-roller plays, but the bat has the chance to be special at the position if he can improve defensively.

Matt Duran, a 4th round pick out of New Rochelle High School in New York in 2011, has plenty of upside too. He hit a solid .301 with ten extra-base hits in just 21 games for the GCL Yankees in his debut season and showed some real defensive abilities at third base, including the necessary lateral movements needed to potentially stick there long-term. Like Bichette Jr. and Austin, he can really impact a baseball at a young age.

While they don't have nearly the same upside as the Yankees' trio of young third basemen, Toronto does have a pair of youngsters of their own that have significant potential too. A 41st round pick out of high school in 2010, Seth Conner is a little Tyler Austin-like with the bat with the caveat that Conner's plate discipline is much better and the power doesn't grade out quite as high. He too needs some work defensively at third base but the hit tool could take him far.

Justin Atkinson, a 26th round pick out of high school in Canada, played third base as an amateur and has some upside of his own, although he projects more as a 'sleeper' candidate at the position at this point because it remains to be seen if the power will develop like some scouts think it can. He is very athletic, however, shows good plate discipline and solid bat speed, and there is some thought that he might be better served long-term making the switch to second base. He has some more growing to do though so keep an eye on his power development.

Just like Toronto, the Yankees have some young third basemen that fall more into the 'sleeper' category than the legit prospect column right now. Taiwan native Fu-Lin Kuo has not posted the best numbers in his first two professional seasons, mostly due to the longer adjustment period needed for young Asian players, but he has some real potential too. A slick defensive third baseman, he shows good plate discipline and uses the entire field. More of a gap to gap hitter at the current time, there is some long-term power potential here if things fall into place.

While not nearly as young, 2010 third round pick Rob Segedin also falls into the 'sleeper' category for the Yankees. He has great plate discipline and has a knack for hitting, has great makeup, and defensively he is more serviceable at third base than standout. His biggest question mark going forward will be the development of his home run power. He can impact the baseball right now but the power is more of the gap variety at the current time.

Both farm systems have third base prospects who once showed great potential but have had a hard time fulfilling that promise to date. Toronto's Kevin Ahrens, a first round pick back in 2007, struggled as a switch-hitter in his first few years and finally went back exclusively to hitting from his natural side in 2011. He has average to above average power potential and plays serviceable defense at third base. He is starting to run out of chances to remain a legit prospect at this point but there's some some potential here if he can show more progress offensively in his second full season batting just right-handed in 2012.

Bradley Suttle, New York's fourth round pick out of the University of Texas back in 2007, has struggled for different reasons. A true switch-hitter with plus power potential and innate patience at the plate, his development has been derailed by two torn shoulder labrum surgeries. He will be 26 years old for the 2012 season and is therefore close to forfeiting his prospect status from an age standpoint, but he still has the kind of top-shelf talent worth tracking if he can remain healthy going forward.

New York has another third sacker that is big league ready in the form of Brandon Laird, the 2010 Double-A Eastern League MVP [he hit .291 with 22 doubles and 23 home runs for Trenton that year]. A serviceable defensive third baseman probably better suited either in first or the outfield, he does offer some offensive potential but he has had a hard time cracking the Yankees' big league lineup. He might be better served in another organization at this point as he isn't about to replace Alex Rodriguez anytime soon.

Toronto's Mark Sobolewski, Sean Ochinko, Bryson Namba, Balbino Fuenmayor, Andy Fermin all have some power that could make them factors down the road, but all fall into the "organizational player" category at this point because of other limiting factors. New York has a couple of players like that as well, including Rob Lyerly and Zach Wilson. Lyerly can hit but his home run power hasn't materialized yet and Wilson, while he has decent power, doesn't have much projection in his game just yet.

A strong argument could be made that Toronto made the bigger splash on the International free agent market overall in 2011, but at least at third base the Yankees signed a high ceiling third baseman that has the chance to be a special prospect long-term in the form of Miguel Andujar. A high-energy player, he is a natural hitter who shows an advanced bat at a young age and he displayed some impressive power potential during Instructional League this offseason. A shortstop growing up, he shows the kind of agility and strong arm needed to stick at third base long-term too. Watch out for him in the coming years.

How Do They Compare In...

Power: When it comes to long-term power potential at the position from a depth standpoint, the Yankees are demonstratively better because of the likes of Bichette Jr., Austin, Duran, and even Andujar. Throw in the current power of Brandon Laird and even higher power potential of Bradley Suttle [although he needs a healthy season in the worst way], it's just too much for the likes of Ahrens and company to compete. Advantage: Yankees

Hitting For Average: Again, there is just too much lower level depth for the Blue Jays to compete here. Seth Conner and Justin Atkinson have some real hitting potential, but the duo can't overmatch the quartet of Bichette Jr., Austin, Andujar, and Duran, not to mention the already solid bat of big league ready Brandon Laird. Advantage: Yankees

Defense: The Blue Jays have some question marks with power and the bat, but they pale in comparison to what they have defensively. Only Atkinson projects to be the type of above average defender that could match the likes of Bichette Jr., Andujar, Kuo, etc, and if Suttle shows his arm strength hasn't been affected by his latest shoulder setback than it's not even a fair comparison. Advantage: Yankees.

Speed: Let's be clear, nobody in either farm system at third base is fast. Tyler Austin of the Yankees, who has yet to be caught stealing a base, isn't fast either but he is a very smart base runner who can have an impact in the running game. Our rankings below in the speed department focuses more on impact than raw speed. Advantage: Yankees.

Overall Potential: Despite the obvious advantage of depth at third base at the lower levels for the Yankees, had Brett Lawrie been qualified as a prospect still he would have made this a closer race than it actually is. The fact is though the Yankees have too much high ceiling depth here. Advantage: Yankees.

Highest Ceilings: Dante Bichette Jr. (Yankees), Tyler Austin (Yankees), Miguel Andujar (Yankees), Matt Duran (Yankees), Bradley Suttle (Yankees)

Best Power: Dante Bichette Jr. (Yankees), Brandon Laird (Yankees), Bradley Suttle (Yankees), Tyler Austin (Yankees), Matt Duran (Yankees)

Best Average: Dante Bichette Jr. (Yankees), Tyler Austin (Yankees), Matt Duran (Yankees), Seth Conner (Blue Jays), Miguel Andujar (Yankees)

Best Defense: Dante Bichette Jr. (Yankees), Justin Atkinson (Blue Jays), Miguel Andujar (Yankees), Bradley Suttle (Yankees), Fu-Lin Kuo (Yankees)

Best Speed: Tyler Austin (Yankees), Bradley Suttle (Yankees), Dante Bichette Jr. (Yankees), Justin Atkinson (Blue Jays), Fu-Lin Kuo (Yankees).


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\r\n \r\n\r\nThe Two Farm Systems: Just like it is at the second base comparison, this is another 'no contest' scenario for the Yankees -- the Blue Jays can't really match the overall depth of quality big league third base prospects. With Brett Lawrie seemingly in place for the foreseeable future in Toronto, however, it may not matter as far as them having to fill any internal needs at the position anytime soon.
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\r\nThe headliner from either farm system is Yankees' 2011 first round pick Dante Bichette Jr., the son of former Colorado Rockies slugging outfielder Dante Bichette. He has power potential somewhat akin to that of his father if you take out the 1990-Coors Field home run effect and 'Junior' has the same kind of great mental makeup, but the similarities end there. Because he grew up around professional baseball, Bichette Jr. has so much more of a head start. He already possesses big league plate discipline as a teenager, a former Top 100 amateur tennis player he has a lot more agility and lateral quickness, and he has been indoctrinated like a professional at such a young age. He has all the makings of a potential star player someday.
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\r\nIt's not as if the Yankees only have Bichette Jr. with tremendous upside at the position, however. A 13th round pick out of high school in 2010, Tyler Austin had about as good a debut season as any position prospect could have in 2011, hitting a combined .354 with 26 extra-base hits in 47 games between the GCL and Staten Island Yankees and stealing 18 bases without getting caught. He's not the same kind of defensive player at Bichette, however. He needs to work on his back-hand and slow-roller plays, but the bat has the chance to be special at the position if he can improve defensively.
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\r\nMatt Duran, a 4th round pick out of New Rochelle High School in New York in 2011, has plenty of upside too. He hit a solid .301 with ten extra-base hits in just 21 games for the GCL Yankees in his debut season and showed some real defensive abilities at third base, including the necessary lateral movements needed to potentially stick there long-term. Like Bichette Jr. and Austin, he can really impact a baseball at a young age.
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\r\nWhile they don't have nearly the same upside as the Yankees' trio of young third basemen, Toronto does have a pair of youngsters of their own that have significant potential too. A 41st round pick out of high school in 2010, Seth Conner is a little Tyler Austin-like with the bat with the caveat that Conner's plate discipline is much better and the power doesn't grade out quite as high. He too needs some work defensively at third base but the hit tool could take him far.
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\r\nJustin Atkinson, a 26th round pick out of high school in Canada, played third base as an amateur and has some upside of his own, although he projects more as a 'sleeper' candidate at the position at this point because it remains to be seen if the power will develop like some scouts think it can. He is very athletic, however, shows good plate discipline and solid bat speed, and there is some thought that he might be better served long-term making the switch to second base. He has some more growing to do though so keep an eye on his power development.
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\r\nJust like Toronto, the Yankees have some young third basemen that fall more into the 'sleeper' category than the legit prospect column right now. Taiwan native Fu-Lin Kuo has not posted the best numbers in his first two professional seasons, mostly due to the longer adjustment period needed for young Asian players, but he has some real potential too. A slick defensive third baseman, he shows good plate discipline and uses the entire field. More of a gap to gap hitter at the current time, there is some long-term power potential here if things fall into place.
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\r\nWhile not nearly as young, 2010 third round pick Rob Segedin also falls into the 'sleeper' category for the Yankees. He has great plate discipline and has a knack for hitting, has great makeup, and defensively he is more serviceable at third base than standout. His biggest question mark going forward will be the development of his home run power. He can impact the baseball right now but the power is more of the gap variety at the current time.
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\r\nBoth farm systems have third base prospects who once showed great potential but have had a hard time fulfilling that promise to date. Toronto's Kevin Ahrens, a first round pick back in 2007, struggled as a switch-hitter in his first few years and finally went back exclusively to hitting from his natural side in 2011. He has average to above average power potential and plays serviceable defense at third base. He is starting to run out of chances to remain a legit prospect at this point but there's some some potential here if he can show more progress offensively in his second full season batting just right-handed in 2012.
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\r\nBradley Suttle, New York's fourth round pick out of the University of Texas back in 2007, has struggled for different reasons. A true switch-hitter with plus power potential and innate patience at the plate, his development has been derailed by two torn shoulder labrum surgeries. He will be 26 years old for the 2012 season and is therefore close to forfeiting his prospect status from an age standpoint, but he still has the kind of top-shelf talent worth tracking if he can remain healthy going forward.
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\r\nNew York has another third sacker that is big league ready in the form of Brandon Laird, the 2010 Double-A Eastern League MVP [he hit .291 with 22 doubles and 23 home runs for Trenton that year]. A serviceable defensive third baseman probably better suited either in first or the outfield, he does offer some offensive potential but he has had a hard time cracking the Yankees' big league lineup. He might be better served in another organization at this point as he isn't about to replace Alex Rodriguez anytime soon.
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\r\nToronto's Mark Sobolewski, Sean Ochinko, Bryson Namba, Balbino Fuenmayor, Andy Fermin all have some power that could make them factors down the road, but all fall into the \"organizational player\" category at this point because of other limiting factors. New York has a couple of players like that as well, including Rob Lyerly and Zach Wilson. Lyerly can hit but his home run power hasn't materialized yet and Wilson, while he has decent power, doesn't have much projection in his game just yet.
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\r\nA strong argument could be made that Toronto made the bigger splash on the International free agent market overall in 2011, but at least at third base the Yankees signed a high ceiling third baseman that has the chance to be a special prospect long-term in the form of Miguel Andujar. A high-energy player, he is a natural hitter who shows an advanced bat at a young age and he displayed some impressive power potential during Instructional League this offseason. A shortstop growing up, he shows the kind of agility and strong arm needed to stick at third base long-term too. Watch out for him in the coming years.
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\r\nHow Do They Compare In...
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\r\nPower: When it comes to long-term power potential at the position from a depth standpoint, the Yankees are demonstratively better because of the likes of Bichette Jr., Austin, Duran, and even Andujar. Throw in the current power of Brandon Laird and even higher power potential of Bradley Suttle [although he needs a healthy season in the worst way], it's just too much for the likes of Ahrens and company to compete. Advantage: Yankees
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\r\nHitting For Average: Again, there is just too much lower level depth for the Blue Jays to compete here. Seth Conner and Justin Atkinson have some real hitting potential, but the duo can't overmatch the quartet of Bichette Jr., Austin, Andujar, and Duran, not to mention the already solid bat of big league ready Brandon Laird. Advantage: Yankees
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\r\nDefense: The Blue Jays have some question marks with power and the bat, but they pale in comparison to what they have defensively. Only Atkinson projects to be the type of above average defender that could match the likes of Bichette Jr., Andujar, Kuo, etc, and if Suttle shows his arm strength hasn't been affected by his latest shoulder setback than it's not even a fair comparison. Advantage: Yankees.
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\r\nSpeed: Let's be clear, nobody in either farm system at third base is fast. Tyler Austin of the Yankees, who has yet to be caught stealing a base, isn't fast either but he is a very smart base runner who can have an impact in the running game. Our rankings below in the speed department focuses more on impact than raw speed. Advantage: Yankees.
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\r\nOverall Potential: Despite the obvious advantage of depth at third base at the lower levels for the Yankees, had Brett Lawrie been qualified as a prospect still he would have made this a closer race than it actually is. The fact is though the Yankees have too much high ceiling depth here. Advantage: Yankees.
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\r\nHighest Ceilings: Dante Bichette Jr. (Yankees), Tyler Austin (Yankees), Miguel Andujar (Yankees), Matt Duran (Yankees), Bradley Suttle (Yankees)
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\r\nBest Power: Dante Bichette Jr. (Yankees), Brandon Laird (Yankees), Bradley Suttle (Yankees), Tyler Austin (Yankees), Matt Duran (Yankees)
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\r\nBest Average: Dante Bichette Jr. (Yankees), Tyler Austin (Yankees), Matt Duran (Yankees), Seth Conner (Blue Jays), Miguel Andujar (Yankees)
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\r\nBest Defense: Dante Bichette Jr. (Yankees), Justin Atkinson (Blue Jays), Miguel Andujar (Yankees), Bradley Suttle (Yankees), Fu-Lin Kuo (Yankees)
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\r\nBest Speed: Tyler Austin (Yankees), Bradley Suttle (Yankees), Dante Bichette Jr. (Yankees), Justin Atkinson (Blue Jays), Fu-Lin Kuo (Yankees).
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