Q&A with Andrew Tinnish

With the 2012 MLB Draft all over and done with, FutureJays.com checks in with Blue Jays' Scouting Director Andrew Tinnish for a Q&A session. In Part One of our two-part series find out how he felt they did in the draft, if they went into the draft with a pre-determined game plan, how Mitch Nay compares to Jacob Anderson, how Chase DeJong compares to Aaron Sanchez, and a whole lot more.

FutureJays.com: Let's start and get your general thoughts on how you felt you guys did overall in the draft this year.

Andrew Tinnish: I felt really good about it. I'm sure that's what everyone tells you at this point but we feel like we got some exciting young players who have a chance to really make a difference, guys who have potential impact ability; maybe some guys with a little bit higher risk but with the reward that could be really special someday.

FutureJays.com: It seemed like you guys, as well as teams like the Yankees and Red Sox, went into the draft with a defined strategy in mind, taking college seniors in those four through ten rounds. Is that the way you went into the draft or did it just shake out that way?

Tinnish: I think it shook out that way but it was a scenario that we were prepared for in advance. I think when the [new] CBA first came out we looked through it, we talked about it as a group, and this was one of the things we talked about that could potentially happen. But you don't really know until draft day comes because you don't know who is going to be sitting there staring you in the face. Obviously the way it shook out we took some high-ceiling high school kids and then it came to a point where we felt we needed some flexibility in our pool. The guys we took from four to ten, the seniors, they were guys that we like. I've said this a few times, they're guys that we like who have ability and provided us with some flexibility. Tucker Donahue for example is a guy we had 92-96 mph so he's got a real good arm. Delatte's a lefty that's been up to 93 mph, the Parmley kid is a 7-runner, so these guys had some tools but at the same time they put us in a position where we could work and be creative with some of our other picks.

FutureJays.com: Well let's get into some of those picks. Obviously D.J. Davis has the plus speed, plus defense combination. I want to ask you about two areas in particular though -- do you think he can hit for some power as he continues to grow, mature, and get physically stronger? And what about the makeup?

Tinnish: I think as far as power it's very deceiving. We worked him out with a wood bat and he launched some balls. D.J.'s a strong kid who is going to get stronger. I think if you take a look at his dad who actually played in our [farm] system, he's kind of like a slightly bigger version of D.J. He's like a 6-foot-2, 190-200 pound version of D.J. - D.J. is probably more in the 6-foot, 185 [pound] area right now, but he's got a good body; good shoulders, it's a tapered body, and he's got big hands. When you shake his hands you'll see big hands and you feel like there's strength in the hands and that there will be more strength. While certainly was attracted us to him was the hit-ability, the bat, the swing and the speed itself, I think he's got the chance to come into some more power than people think. As far as the makeup, great kid. He's from a small town in Mississippi and he's grown up playing baseball. His dad always put a bat in his hand. He's a quiet kid who works hard and who loves to play. I think he's got the chance to impact the game on both sides of the ball.

FutureJays.com: Talk about Marcus Stroman a little bit. Of course everyone has opined that he's a guy who could be in your big league bullpen by season's end. I know you're not on the development side but did you draft him as a reliever or a starter?

Tinnish: I think he could do either. He has the chance to be an impact type arm at the back end of the [bullpen] and I think he could start too. Forget about his height. The first thing people say is he's 5-foot-9 and I say 'yeah he's 5-foot-9 but he's an unbelievable athlete, he's got a super-quick arm, he's got electric stuff, he's got great makeup, he works, and he's an ultra-competitive individual'. He more than makes up for it in my mind with other attributes. I think if we told him 'you're going to start', he'd start. And if we told him 'you're going to come out of the pen', he'll do that. He has the ability to either or. At this point only time will tell. Obviously priority number one is getting him signed and into a Blue Jays uniform, and then putting together a plan from there.

FutureJays.com: Talk about Matt Smoral a little bit. What do you like about him?

Tinnish: Obviously we had limited looks at Smoral but he's a 6-foot-6 left-hander whose arm really works. I've seen him as high as 95 mph with the chance to have a plus slider. He has some unique ingredients that you don't see everyday. Obviously it was unfortunate for him that the season went the way that it did just having the foot injury and whatnot, but ultimately he's got the chance to be a frontline type starter with a power fastball-slider combination. It's really a unique skillset from 6-foot-6 left-hander, you don't see that everyday. [The changeup] is still developing. I look back to 2010 for example; in 2010 we had about 23 reports on Aaron Sanchez and over the course of the spring we saw him as a group about 65 innings. We were at everyone of his starts, we had multiple guys at everyone of his starts, so we scouted him. This kid's different because he threw like six innings this year. It's not like he really got a shot to show that 'hey, I've got this third pitch, this changeup, that I can use too'. From my perspective I'm honestly more concerned with at the least the feel or ability to use a breaking ball at this point. I think the changeup, while not always, always has a good chance to develop. There's guys in the big leagues who have plus changeups that didn't have them at all as amateurs so I'm not too worried about that.

FutureJays.com: In regards to Mitch Nay it seems, at least from reading the online reports on him, that offensively he's a Jacob Anderson type. Is that a fair comparison?

Tinnish: Yeah that's a fair comp. I think Jacob is a bit better runner with a touch more bat at the present time. I'd say Mitch showed more raw power than Jacob. Mitch didn't play a ton in the summer but when he did play against good competition -- we saw him in the Tournament of Stars -- he did very well. That's where he first got on the radar with us. I saw him hit an opposite field home run in the Tournament of Stars and we've obviously been following him ever since. He's a great makeup kid; he works really hard, loves the game. He's got a great body, a great projectable body. The body itself as far as height and weight is comparable to a Jacob Anderson. I'll say this -- his arm is ridiculous. He has at least a plus arm right now. It's difference-making arm strength.

FutureJays.com: You see him sticking at third base for now?

Tinnish: I do. I think one way or the other he's going to have a good chance to use his arm whether it's at third base or in right field. I think at this point he's shown us enough athleticism and obviously arm strength to play third base but both positions are actually hard to come by as far as true right fielders and third basemen -- they're not easy positions to fill. It's not like there's a ton of them even at the big leagues. Either way we're excited about what he could be.

FutureJays.com: Talk about right-hander Tyler Gonzales. Reports are he's a raw power arm. Is that what you saw?

Tinnish: First of all, [he has] unbelievable baseball makeup. He comes from a baseball family. His uncle is a cross-checker with the Nationals. He eats, sleeps, and breathes baseball. He's a great athlete and played shortstop when he wasn't pitching. He's ultra, ultra-athletic on the mound. He's not a big guy but he has a super-quick arm with a power slider. It's up to 87 mph and the fastball is anywhere from 90-97 mph. In his start we had him at 92-93 mph with some life. He's an interesting kid because he competes, he has great makeup. They are different but there are some similarities to Stroman in the sense that it's a plus slider, it's a quick power arm, a very good athlete with makeup and competitiveness.

FutureJays.com: You referenced Aaron Sanchez earlier. When I read the reports on Chase DeJong I think Aaron Sanchez. Is that a fair comp?

Tinnish: Yep, that's a fair comp. Chase is a little more advanced at the same stage and Aaron overall had higher upside. When we saw Aaron [as an amateur] it was extremely loose and effortless, and the ball had that natural life to it. He spun the breaking ball but he struggled with his command. Chase is a little bit more polished. He's 89-94 mph, pitching at 91-92 mph, plus curveball, and actually a plus changeup too. He's also a good athlete. So there are some definite similarities; 6-foot-4 high school right-handers from California who could really spin the curveball so from that perspective there are some similarities. They're just a little bit different in the sense that Chase is a little bit further along while Aaron had a little bit more pure projection or upside to him.

FutureJays.com: You mention pure projection and upside and Anthony Alford comes to mind. Word is he has all the tools in the shed.

Tinnish: It's electric bat speed with a relatively compact swing. He kind of plays baseball like he plays football -- there's some explosiveness to him. He's got some explosiveness in his bat and in his legs. When he's going he's probably a 7-runner, and when you're watching batting practice he shows you plus raw power with a wood bat. He's exciting. He certainly has a lot of upside. He's one of these kids who has grown up playing multiple sports and hasn't had the time to put 100 percent effort into one [sport], and I'm not sure when that will happen. We're happy to have him as part of the organization even though we know he's not going to be with us 100 percent of the time.

FutureJays.com: Playing college football and also playing professional baseball is a unique situation. Any concerns?

Tinnish: We've done it before and other teams have done it before where you have a player who -- we actually had a kid, Luke Wilson from Rice, who we did a similar deal with last year. We signed him, he went to Rice and played football, he came and spent his six weeks down in Florida and now he's gone back to school to play football. It's about opportunity. You feel like you get a player who has upside and ability to play your game. You know they're obviously skill and talented in another sport they're playing -- look, we're going to have him, I don't have all the details yet but we'll have him for some time each year but it's just going to depend on football.


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\r\n \r\n\r\nFutureJays.com: Let's start and get your general thoughts on how you felt you guys did overall in the draft this year.
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\r\nAndrew Tinnish: I felt really good about it. I'm sure that's what everyone tells you at this point but we feel like we got some exciting young players who have a chance to really make a difference, guys who have potential impact ability; maybe some guys with a little bit higher risk but with the reward that could be really special someday.
\r\n
\r\nFutureJays.com: It seemed like you guys, as well as teams like the Yankees and Red Sox, went into the draft with a defined strategy in mind, taking college seniors in those four through ten rounds. Is that the way you went into the draft or did it just shake out that way?
\r\n
\r\nTinnish: I think it shook out that way but it was a scenario that we were prepared for in advance. I think when the [new] CBA first came out we looked through it, we talked about it as a group, and this was one of the things we talked about that could potentially happen. But you don't really know until draft day comes because you don't know who is going to be sitting there staring you in the face. Obviously the way it shook out we took some high-ceiling high school kids and then it came to a point where we felt we needed some flexibility in our pool. The guys we took from four to ten, the seniors, they were guys that we like. I've said this a few times, they're guys that we like who have ability and provided us with some flexibility. Tucker Donahue for example is a guy we had 92-96 mph so he's got a real good arm. Delatte's a lefty that's been up to 93 mph, the Parmley kid is a 7-runner, so these guys had some tools but at the same time they put us in a position where we could work and be creative with some of our other picks.
\r\n
\r\nFutureJays.com: Well let's get into some of those picks. Obviously D.J. Davis has the plus speed, plus defense combination. I want to ask you about two areas in particular though -- do you think he can hit for some power as he continues to grow, mature, and get physically stronger? And what about the makeup?
\r\n
\r\nTinnish: I think as far as power it's very deceiving. We worked him out with a wood bat and he launched some balls. D.J.'s a strong kid who is going to get stronger. I think if you take a look at his dad who actually played in our [farm] system, he's kind of like a slightly bigger version of D.J. He's like a 6-foot-2, 190-200 pound version of D.J. - D.J. is probably more in the 6-foot, 185 [pound] area right now, but he's got a good body; good shoulders, it's a tapered body, and he's got big hands. When you shake his hands you'll see big hands and you feel like there's strength in the hands and that there will be more strength. While certainly was attracted us to him was the hit-ability, the bat, the swing and the speed itself, I think he's got the chance to come into some more power than people think. As far as the makeup, great kid. He's from a small town in Mississippi and he's grown up playing baseball. His dad always put a bat in his hand. He's a quiet kid who works hard and who loves to play. I think he's got the chance to impact the game on both sides of the ball.
\r\n
\r\nFutureJays.com: Talk about Marcus Stroman a little bit. Of course everyone has opined that he's a guy who could be in your big league bullpen by season's end. I know you're not on the development side but did you draft him as a reliever or a starter?
\r\n
\r\nTinnish: I think he could do either. He has the chance to be an impact type arm at the back end of the [bullpen] and I think he could start too. Forget about his height. The first thing people say is he's 5-foot-9 and I say 'yeah he's 5-foot-9 but he's an unbelievable athlete, he's got a super-quick arm, he's got electric stuff, he's got great makeup, he works, and he's an ultra-competitive individual'. He more than makes up for it in my mind with other attributes. I think if we told him 'you're going to start', he'd start. And if we told him 'you're going to come out of the pen', he'll do that. He has the ability to either or. At this point only time will tell. Obviously priority number one is getting him signed and into a Blue Jays uniform, and then putting together a plan from there.
\r\n
\r\nFutureJays.com: Talk about Matt Smoral a little bit. What do you like about him?
\r\n
\r\nTinnish: Obviously we had limited looks at Smoral but he's a 6-foot-6 left-hander whose arm really works. I've seen him as high as 95 mph with the chance to have a plus slider. He has some unique ingredients that you don't see everyday. Obviously it was unfortunate for him that the season went the way that it did just having the foot injury and whatnot, but ultimately he's got the chance to be a frontline type starter with a power fastball-slider combination. It's really a unique skillset from 6-foot-6 left-hander, you don't see that everyday. [The changeup] is still developing. I look back to 2010 for example; in 2010 we had about 23 reports on Aaron Sanchez and over the course of the spring we saw him as a group about 65 innings. We were at everyone of his starts, we had multiple guys at everyone of his starts, so we scouted him. This kid's different because he threw like six innings this year. It's not like he really got a shot to show that 'hey, I've got this third pitch, this changeup, that I can use too'. From my perspective I'm honestly more concerned with at the least the feel or ability to use a breaking ball at this point. I think the changeup, while not always, always has a good chance to develop. There's guys in the big leagues who have plus changeups that didn't have them at all as amateurs so I'm not too worried about that.
\r\n
\r\nFutureJays.com: In regards to Mitch Nay it seems, at least from reading the online reports on him, that offensively he's a Jacob Anderson type. Is that a fair comparison?
\r\n
\r\nTinnish: Yeah that's a fair comp. I think Jacob is a bit better runner with a touch more bat at the present time. I'd say Mitch showed more raw power than Jacob. Mitch didn't play a ton in the summer but when he did play against good competition -- we saw him in the Tournament of Stars -- he did very well. That's where he first got on the radar with us. I saw him hit an opposite field home run in the Tournament of Stars and we've obviously been following him ever since. He's a great makeup kid; he works really hard, loves the game. He's got a great body, a great projectable body. The body itself as far as height and weight is comparable to a Jacob Anderson. I'll say this -- his arm is ridiculous. He has at least a plus arm right now. It's difference-making arm strength.
\r\n
\r\nFutureJays.com: You see him sticking at third base for now?
\r\n
\r\nTinnish: I do. I think one way or the other he's going to have a good chance to use his arm whether it's at third base or in right field. I think at this point he's shown us enough athleticism and obviously arm strength to play third base but both positions are actually hard to come by as far as true right fielders and third basemen -- they're not easy positions to fill. It's not like there's a ton of them even at the big leagues. Either way we're excited about what he could be.
\r\n
\r\nFutureJays.com: Talk about right-hander Tyler Gonzales. Reports are he's a raw power arm. Is that what you saw?
\r\n
\r\nTinnish: First of all, [he has] unbelievable baseball makeup. He comes from a baseball family. His uncle is a cross-checker with the Nationals. He eats, sleeps, and breathes baseball. He's a great athlete and played shortstop when he wasn't pitching. He's ultra, ultra-athletic on the mound. He's not a big guy but he has a super-quick arm with a power slider. It's up to 87 mph and the fastball is anywhere from 90-97 mph. In his start we had him at 92-93 mph with some life. He's an interesting kid because he competes, he has great makeup. They are different but there are some similarities to Stroman in the sense that it's a plus slider, it's a quick power arm, a very good athlete with makeup and competitiveness.
\r\n
\r\nFutureJays.com: You referenced Aaron Sanchez earlier. When I read the reports on Chase DeJong I think Aaron Sanchez. Is that a fair comp?
\r\n
\r\nTinnish: Yep, that's a fair comp. Chase is a little more advanced at the same stage and Aaron overall had higher upside. When we saw Aaron [as an amateur] it was extremely loose and effortless, and the ball had that natural life to it. He spun the breaking ball but he struggled with his command. Chase is a little bit more polished. He's 89-94 mph, pitching at 91-92 mph, plus curveball, and actually a plus changeup too. He's also a good athlete. So there are some definite similarities; 6-foot-4 high school right-handers from California who could really spin the curveball so from that perspective there are some similarities. They're just a little bit different in the sense that Chase is a little bit further along while Aaron had a little bit more pure projection or upside to him.
\r\n
\r\nFutureJays.com: You mention pure projection and upside and Anthony Alford comes to mind. Word is he has all the tools in the shed.
\r\n
\r\nTinnish: It's electric bat speed with a relatively compact swing. He kind of plays baseball like he plays football -- there's some explosiveness to him. He's got some explosiveness in his bat and in his legs. When he's going he's probably a 7-runner, and when you're watching batting practice he shows you plus raw power with a wood bat. He's exciting. He certainly has a lot of upside. He's one of these kids who has grown up playing multiple sports and hasn't had the time to put 100 percent effort into one [sport], and I'm not sure when that will happen. We're happy to have him as part of the organization even though we know he's not going to be with us 100 percent of the time.
\r\n
\r\nFutureJays.com: Playing college football and also playing professional baseball is a unique situation. Any concerns?
\r\n
\r\nTinnish: We've done it before and other teams have done it before where you have a player who -- we actually had a kid, Luke Wilson from Rice, who we did a similar deal with last year. We signed him, he went to Rice and played football, he came and spent his six weeks down in Florida and now he's gone back to school to play football. It's about opportunity. You feel like you get a player who has upside and ability to play your game. You know they're obviously skill and talented in another sport they're playing -- look, we're going to have him, I don't have all the details yet but we'll have him for some time each year but it's just going to depend on football.
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