Scouting Mets Prospect #38: Josh Stinson

For Josh Stinson, the 2009 season was about a change in roles. After years in the rotation since being drafted out of high school, the right-hander shifted to a full time role out of the bullpen. Stinson had to learn success in a new position, finding new, useful tools along the way. How does he feel about the switch? Check out his scouting report to find out.

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Vital Statistics
Name: Josh Stinson
DOB: March 14, 1988
Height: 6'4"
Weight: 210
Throws: Right
Bats: Right
Status: 37th Round (2006) – Northwood High School (LA)

Josh Stinson entered the 2009 with the knowledge that by the end of the season, his role switch would be complete. In a move that began late in the 2008 season, Stinson, a young pitcher whose stock was always higher than numbers indicated, finally made the move that ultimately led to more consistency and effectiveness.

He opened the season in Savannah for the third straight season, but following a July promotion to St. Lucie (he made seven appearances in High-A in '08), the right-hander found a rhythm that left him feeling positive about his season's body of work.

"I thought it was a very successful year. I was very happy with the way I performed. There were some bumps as I made the switch to full-time relieving, but I thought overall it was a successful year," said Stinson. "The walk totals are something I want to cut down, but for the most part I was very pleased with how the year went."

First, Stinson had to settle into the energy of his new role. Without the preparation given to starters, he had to find a personal comfort zone. To Stinson's benefit, quick turnaround between appearances allowed him to have a short memory and bounce back between outings.

"Starting and relieving are two different animals. More adrenaline takes over and you have to be ready to be effective when your name is called," the right-hander detailed. "I think one of the biggest thing for me was calming my nerves and doing what I've done my whole life. The biggest part of relieving, and it's a benefit, is that I can get knocked around come back the next day and get the chance to pitch much better and rebound. "

Stinson was serviceable, but far from consistently sharp during his first 25 outings of the year with Savannah. There he went 2-2 with a 3.61 ERA in 42 1/3 innings. However, with the move to St. Lucie and mechanical work with pitching coach Phil Regan, Stinson got rolling. In his final 25 outings of the year, Stinson posted a 3-1 record, 1.98 ERA and .168 opponent's batting average in 36 1/3 innings.

"Phil Regan helped a lot with the consistency of my mechanics and not flying off the ball which was a problem I've had. I was staying through the ball better and I think made my pitches more effective," he explained. "Instead of having one more game where everything was good and then losing it the next game, I was keeping everything in line day in, day out. I think that had a lot to do with my success."

Another element to his success was the concentrated effort of using his slider more often. Early in his career, it mostly served as filler to his repertoire. In 2009, Stinson confidently used it as a put-away pitch.

"When I went to Hawaii last year, I spoke with Rob Ellis how he throws a slider and how I could incorporate that better into my game," he recalled. "Back in 2006 and 2007, and last year when I threw it, my slider was more of a slurve and was the same speed as my curveball. This year, my slider had different angles on it. That was the biggest thing that helped me out this year."

He carried that momentum into an unexpected assignment to the Arizona Fall League. After getting roughed up a bit in his first two AFL outings, he went on to surrender just one earned run over his final 8 2/3 innings. That, he feels, sets the stage for an even stronger 2010 season.

"It was a great experience. I got to face competition that I hadn't faced before," he said. "It let me know where I stood, and it allowed me to build on something to propel me to next year. It was important preparation for next year and gives me even more confidence."

Year

Team

W-L

IP

Hits

BB

K

ERA

2009

St. Lucie

3-1

36.1

22

19

35

1.98

2009

Savannah

2-2

42.1

45

10

49

3.61

2008

St. Lucie

0-2

14.2

17

5

14

6.14

2008

Savannah

3-6

71.2

78

32

46

3.52

2007

Savannah

3-11

109.1

131

33

52

4.86

2006

Hagerstown

0-1

13.1

11

4

5

1.35

2006

GCL

1-2

27.0

27

5

14

2.00



Repertoire: Fastball, Slider, Changeup, Curveball

Fastball: Stinson employs both a four-seam and two-seam fastball. Both are consistently 90-92 MPH range, but he uses his two-seamer more often to get induce ground balls and work the corners. He flashes his four-seam fastball as a get-over pitch when behind in the count. There was a time when he evenly used his two fastballs, but he has become more reliant on the two-seamer the more he has leaned on movement for success. He establishes the rest of his repertoire with his fastball, attempting to gets swings early the count before switching to his secondary stuff to finish off hitters.

Other Pitches: As mentioned, what began last season and came to fruition in 2009 was that his slider became his top secondary pitch and his finishing pitch. He throws it a consistent 83-84 MPH with a high-angle break that he commands down in the zone. A consistent release point and good finish through the pitch eliminated the loop from the slider. His mid-70s curveball, which was at one time his top breaking ball and one time possessed plus potential, has taken a back seat due to an inconsistency of keeping it in the zone. He rounds things off with a low-80s changeup with solid running action, but remains a feel pitch that could or could not be there on any given day.

Pitching: Moving to the bullpen trimmed down Stinson's approach but did not limit the amount of pitches he throws. Overall, his approach remains the same. He works the bottom third of the strike zone with movement, pitches to contact and avoids the long ball (1 HR allowed in 2009). Confidence plays a significant part in Stinson's success and after his first prolonged stint in St. Lucie, and a spot in the Arizona Fall League, the right-hander is gaining more of it. That confidence invigorates his attacking approach.

Projection: Stinson's ultimate role is solidified. He is a reliever and will stay as such. Now the biggest question is whether his growth and success will continue at higher levels. He does not have the stuff to be a back end reliever, but his depth and ability to work the bottom of the zone will allow him to develop into a middle reliever who can eat innings and set the table for harder throws. After three years in A-ball, it is time to see Stinson do it at the higher levels.

ETA: 2012. Once again, starting the 2009 season in Savannah pushed back his arrival by one year. He spent half the season in St. Lucie last season, but it will likely be a late spring decision whether or not he returns to High-A or jumps to Binghamton to start the year. Nonetheless, Stinson, who will be 22 on Opening Day, figures to spend another two full seasons in the system.


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\r\nVital Statistics
\r\nName: Josh Stinson
\r\nDOB: March 14, 1988
\r\nHeight: 6'4\"
\r\nWeight: 210
\r\nThrows: Right
\r\nBats: Right
\r\nStatus: 37th Round (2006) – Northwood High School (LA)
\r\n
\r\nJosh Stinson entered the 2009 with the knowledge that by the end of the season, his role switch would be complete. In a move that began late in the 2008 season, Stinson, a young pitcher whose stock was always higher than numbers indicated, finally made the move that ultimately led to more consistency and effectiveness.
\r\n
\r\nHe opened the season in Savannah for the third straight season, but following a July promotion to St. Lucie (he made seven appearances in High-A in '08), the right-hander found a rhythm that left him feeling positive about his season's body of work.
\r\n
\r\n\"I thought it was a very successful year. I was very happy with the way I performed. There were some bumps as I made the switch to full-time relieving, but I thought overall it was a successful year,\" said Stinson. \"The walk totals are something I want to cut down, but for the most part I was very pleased with how the year went.\"
\r\n
\r\nFirst, Stinson had to settle into the energy of his new role. Without the preparation given to starters, he had to find a personal comfort zone. To Stinson's benefit, quick turnaround between appearances allowed him to have a short memory and bounce back between outings.
\r\n
\r\n\"Starting and relieving are two different animals. More adrenaline takes over and you have to be ready to be effective when your name is called,\" the right-hander detailed. \"I think one of the biggest thing for me was calming my nerves and doing what I've done my whole life. The biggest part of relieving, and it's a benefit, is that I can get knocked around come back the next day and get the chance to pitch much better and rebound. \"
\r\n
\r\nStinson was serviceable, but far from consistently sharp during his first 25 outings of the year with Savannah. There he went 2-2 with a 3.61 ERA in 42 1/3 innings. However, with the move to St. Lucie and mechanical work with pitching coach Phil Regan, Stinson got rolling. In his final 25 outings of the year, Stinson posted a 3-1 record, 1.98 ERA and .168 opponent's batting average in 36 1/3 innings.
\r\n
\r\n\"Phil Regan helped a lot with the consistency of my mechanics and not flying off the ball which was a problem I've had. I was staying through the ball better and I think made my pitches more effective,\" he explained. \"Instead of having one more game where everything was good and then losing it the next game, I was keeping everything in line day in, day out. I think that had a lot to do with my success.\"
\r\n
\r\nAnother element to his success was the concentrated effort of using his slider more often. Early in his career, it mostly served as filler to his repertoire. In 2009, Stinson confidently used it as a put-away pitch.
\r\n
\r\n\"When I went to Hawaii last year, I spoke with Rob Ellis how he throws a slider and how I could incorporate that better into my game,\" he recalled. \"Back in 2006 and 2007, and last year when I threw it, my slider was more of a slurve and was the same speed as my curveball. This year, my slider had different angles on it. That was the biggest thing that helped me out this year.\"
\r\n
\r\nHe carried that momentum into an unexpected assignment to the Arizona Fall League. After getting roughed up a bit in his first two AFL outings, he went on to surrender just one earned run over his final 8 2/3 innings. That, he feels, sets the stage for an even stronger 2010 season.
\r\n
\r\n\"It was a great experience. I got to face competition that I hadn't faced before,\" he said. \"It let me know where I stood, and it allowed me to build on something to propel me to next year. It was important preparation for next year and gives me even more confidence.\"
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\r\n Team

\r\n

\r\n W-L

\r\n

\r\n IP

\r\n

\r\n Hits

\r\n

\r\n BB

\r\n

K

\r\n

\r\n ERA

\r\n

2009

\r\n

\r\n St. Lucie

\r\n

\r\n 3-1

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\r\n 36.1

\r\n

\r\n 22

\r\n

19

\r\n

35

\r\n

\r\n 1.98

\r\n

2009

\r\n

\r\n Savannah

\r\n

\r\n 2-2

\r\n

\r\n 42.1

\r\n

\r\n 45

\r\n

10

\r\n

49

\r\n

\r\n 3.61

\r\n

2008

\r\n

\r\n St. Lucie

\r\n

\r\n 0-2

\r\n

\r\n 14.2

\r\n

\r\n 17

\r\n

5

\r\n

14

\r\n

\r\n 6.14

\r\n

2008

\r\n

\r\n Savannah

\r\n

\r\n 3-6

\r\n

\r\n 71.2

\r\n

\r\n 78

\r\n

32

\r\n

46

\r\n

\r\n 3.52

\r\n

2007

\r\n

\r\n Savannah

\r\n

\r\n 3-11

\r\n

\r\n 109.1

\r\n

\r\n 131

\r\n

33

\r\n

52

\r\n

\r\n 4.86

\r\n

2006

\r\n

\r\n Hagerstown

\r\n

\r\n 0-1

\r\n

\r\n 13.1

\r\n

\r\n 11

\r\n

4

\r\n

5

\r\n

\r\n 1.35

\r\n

2006

\r\n

\r\n GCL

\r\n

\r\n 1-2

\r\n

\r\n 27.0

\r\n

\r\n 27

\r\n

5

\r\n

\r\n 14

\r\n

\r\n 2.00


\r\n
\r\nRepertoire: Fastball, Slider, Changeup, Curveball
\r\n
\r\nFastball: Stinson employs both a four-seam and two-seam fastball. Both are consistently 90-92 MPH range, but he uses his two-seamer more often to get induce ground balls and work the corners. He flashes his four-seam fastball as a get-over pitch when behind in the count. There was a time when he evenly used his two fastballs, but he has become more reliant on the two-seamer the more he has leaned on movement for success. He establishes the rest of his repertoire with his fastball, attempting to gets swings early the count before switching to his secondary stuff to finish off hitters.
\r\n
\r\nOther Pitches: As mentioned, what began last season and came to fruition in 2009 was that his slider became his top secondary pitch and his finishing pitch. He throws it a consistent 83-84 MPH with a high-angle break that he commands down in the zone. A consistent release point and good finish through the pitch eliminated the loop from the slider. His mid-70s curveball, which was at one time his top breaking ball and one time possessed plus potential, has taken a back seat due to an inconsistency of keeping it in the zone. He rounds things off with a low-80s changeup with solid running action, but remains a feel pitch that could or could not be there on any given day.
\r\n
\r\nPitching: Moving to the bullpen trimmed down Stinson's approach but did not limit the amount of pitches he throws. Overall, his approach remains the same. He works the bottom third of the strike zone with movement, pitches to contact and avoids the long ball (1 HR allowed in 2009). Confidence plays a significant part in Stinson's success and after his first prolonged stint in St. Lucie, and a spot in the Arizona Fall League, the right-hander is gaining more of it. That confidence invigorates his attacking approach.
\r\n
\r\nProjection: Stinson's ultimate role is solidified. He is a reliever and will stay as such. Now the biggest question is whether his growth and success will continue at higher levels. He does not have the stuff to be a back end reliever, but his depth and ability to work the bottom of the zone will allow him to develop into a middle reliever who can eat innings and set the table for harder throws. After three years in A-ball, it is time to see Stinson do it at the higher levels.
\r\n
\r\nETA: 2012. Once again, starting the 2009 season in Savannah pushed back his arrival by one year. He spent half the season in St. Lucie last season, but it will likely be a late spring decision whether or not he returns to High-A or jumps to Binghamton to start the year. Nonetheless, Stinson, who will be 22 on Opening Day, figures to spend another two full seasons in the system.
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