RDriesenUD wrote: We need that money because Ludwick and Arroyo are still on the payroll. You take Arroyo off in one year and can take Ludwick off in 2 years. That is a lot of money right there. I am not saying we would want to do it. Just that I think we can.Let's extend our two young RH starters, see what additional revenue that attendance brings us in 2013, then see what we have to spend for 2014.
RDriesenUD wrote: Another reason I didn't want Ludwick back for more than 1 year. I still think we could sign him if we wanted too. Arroyo won't be back in 2014, so that will free up money. Then, Ludwick could be gone after 2015 freeing up money. Of course, we also have to get money for our pitchers, but I think we could make it work if we wanted too.
FiestaBuckeye wrote: I don't think there's any way Choo is on this team in 2014. To speculate otherwise is just unrealistic, IMO.
Boras will want at least $60-$70 million for him in a multi-year contract, and will get it. But, not from the Reds.
Ludwick will play LF for less than half of the money Choo would command, and Billy H. will man CF at the league minimum.
Walt made it clear that the Choo deal would not have been made without the $3.5 million from the Indians included. That tells us that the Reds are very near their budget limit right now. If he seriously intends to extend Latos and Bailey (and I believe he does), any savings we'll receive when Arroyo walks will have already been spent.
I just don't think it's realistic unless the Reds' attendance jumps significantly in 2013. But, that's very possible if this team plays to its ability.
Getting Latos & Bailey extended is a significant (and more immediate) part of the Reds 'sustainability' blueprint if we're looking at winning 3-5 years into the future. That will likely be HIGH on Walt's to-do list after the new year.