Yankees vs. Mets: Starting Pitching Prospects

In our final edition of comparing what the Yankees and Mets have at each position in the minor leagues, we take a look at the crop of starting pitching prospects in each system. Which system is deeper? Which prospects have the best fastballs? The highest ceilings? Take a look at this comparison between the two New York farm systems.

The Pelfrey Factor: Mike Pelfrey, drafted by the Mets in the 1st round of the 2005 MLB Draft, has not signed as of yet. Until he does, he can't be considered a pitching prospect in the Mets' system. Once he does, he immediately becomes the Mets' top pitching prospect as far as highest ceiling.

The Two Farm Systems: Between most of the position comparisons, from catcher to outfield, the Mets had an advantage over their cross-town rivals from the Bronx. But where the Yankees clearly have an edge is in the starting pitching department. The Yankees have spent a majority of their draft picks the last two seasons restocking what was a depleted crop of pitching prospects.

Combining the pitchers from both farm systems, the Yankees have the only two pitchers that have ace potential at the Major League level. The cream of the pitching crop is right-handed hurler Phil Hughes. Hughes has a solid four pitch repertoire. Armed with a plus fastball and a solid curveball and changeup, Hughes simply dominated the A-level in his first year of professional baseball as a teenager. Drawing comparisons to Roger Clemens and Curt Schilling, Hughes will be reincorporating his slider, another plus pitch, into his repertoire in 2006. He'll still only be 19-year old when the new season begins and he could see ample time at the AA level.

Flame-throwing Christian Garcia arguably has even better overall stuff than Hughes. He throws a fastball consistently in the mid-90's and compliments it with the best curveball in either farm system. While Garcia has unlimited potential, there are more question marks about his future. His command isn't nearly as honed as other pitching prospects. If Garcia can display the kind of focus and work ethic the Yankees seek, the sky is the limit for him.

Outside of Hughes and Garcia, the Yankees have a plethora of quality starting pitching prospects that project to be fine middle-of-the-rotation starters at the Major League level. Tyler Clippard is a strikeout pitcher with great command of his pitches. He will enter the 2006 season with a career 3.32 ERA and a better than five to one strikeout-to-walk ratio. Matt DeSalvo, like Clippard, hasn't gotten the credit he deserves, mostly because he was undrafted free agent. Some of DeSalvo's teammates believe he has frontline starting stuff, even drawing comparisons to Greg Maddux for his ability to mix up his pitches well and using a cerebral approach on the mound.

Continuing the onslaught of pitching depth in the Yankees' farm system, Jeff Marquez uses a plus changeup and a mean two-seam fastball to baffle opposing batters. Steven White is a three-pitch pitcher, throwing mostly low to mid-90's fastballs and a slurve (slider/curveball). He opened up some eyes in the Arizona Fall League after missing most of the 2005 season with an abdominal strain. Right-handed pitcher Alan Horne is one of the more intriguing pitching prospects in either system. Drafted in the 11th round this past season, Horne was drafted in the first round a few years ago but decided to attend college. Throwing in the low to mid-90's, Horne's repertoire, command, and poise on the mound are already that of a Major League pitcher. He should move through the minor leagues pretty quickly.

The Yankees also have solid pitching prospects in Jeff Karstens, Eric Hacker, Jim Conroy, and Jason Stephens, all of which project to be Major League pitchers someday. Throw in the high ceiling talents of Francisco Castillo, Rolando Japa, Domingo Cabrera, and Garrett Patterson, the Yankees are truly loaded at the starting pitching position.

For the Mets, until Mike Pelfrey signs, they don't have a true elite pitching prospect in their system, but a solid stock of middle-of-the-rotation type of starters. Based on pure stuff, right-handed Philip Humber has the best combination of plus pitches (fastball, curveball) to possibly become a little better than a #3 type of pitcher at the Major League level. However, he'll miss most, if not all, of the 2006 season after Tommy John surgery. Yusmeiro Petit is the Mets' version of Tyler Clippard in stuff and command, not physique. Petit just knows how to pitch and his minor league results speak for themselves. He's a sneaky pitcher that hides the ball incredibly well, usually giving batters a split second to recognize what is coming at them.

Brian Bannister, the son of former Major Leaguer Floyd Bannister, had a breakout season in 2005, thanks in large part to a cut-fastball/slider that he incorporated into his repertoire. Like Petit, Bannister is more of a control pitcher who mixes in his pitches very well. Young right-handed pitcher Gaby Hernandez has quickly become a fan favorite, especially after tossing a no-hitter in the South Atlantic League this past season. Hernandez is a pitcher that will go right after batters and he's as competitive as they come on the mound. He still has some projection in his game, but he lacks a truly dominant pitch to become a frontline starting pitcher.

Outside the Mets' big four of Humber, Petit, Bannister, and Hernandez, the remaining starting pitching prospects each have questions marks to their Major League potential. Right-handed pitcher Kevin Deaton has a solid repertoire with good command, but hasn't pitched a full season each of the last two years. Evan MacLane is more of a soft-tossing lefty, but uses a plus changeup and great control to hitters out. He's been compared to Jamie Moyer of the Seattle Mariners in that regard. Right-handed Scott Hyde missed the entire 2005 season after Tommy John surgery and has yet to throw 60 professional innings since being drafted in the 7th round of the 2004 MLB Draft. He has a very good curveball and has a shot of making it, but his rebound from Tommy John surgery is a major question mark at this time.

How Do They Compare In...

Fastballs: Until Pelfrey signs, the Mets don't have a starting pitching prospect that has a plus Major League fastball. Humber, who reportedly throws in the 91-93 MPH range, had a hard time hitting those levels this past season, perhaps due to his injury. He's the closest to having a very good Major League fastball. The likes of Petit, Bannister, Hernandez, and others throw in the 88-91 MPH range. Only Gaby Hernandez could wind up throwing a couple of ticks higher with his fastball right now.

The Yankees are the exact opposite in their stable of young arms. Phil Hughes, Christian Garcia, Alan Horne, Steven White, and Garrett Patterson all throw in low to mid-90's. Throw in the projection of teenage sensation Francisco Castillo's heater that currently sits in the low 90's and the devastating two-seam fastball of Jeff Marquez, the Yankees have a full cupboard of fastballs in their farm system. Comparing the fastballs in the Mets' system to the Yankees' system, it is not even close. Advantage: Yankees

Secondary Pitches: Christian Garcia of the Yankees has the best curveball of any pitching prospect in either farm system. It is a power-knuckle curveball that he's able to throw in any situation. Philip Humber of the Mets also possesses a plus curveball, but is the only one in their farm system that compares to the depth of the Yankees' pitchers that throw very good curveballs.

Jeff Marquez has the best changeup of any pitcher in both farm systems, a strong statement considering how good the changeups are in both systems. Yusmeiro Petit also has a good changeup, mostly because of his deceptive delivery and his ability to hide the ball. While Evan MacLane of the Mets also has a plus changeup, it isn't any better than those of Jim Conroy or Matt DeSalvo of the Yankees.

The Mets have an edge over the Yankees in throwing sliders, mostly due to the fact that the Yankees don't allow their young pitching prospects to throw sliders at the lower levels, instead having them focus on harnessing their fastballs, curveballs, and changeups. The pitcher that may have the best slider from both farm systems is Phil Hughes. Considered a plus pitch for him in high school before being drafted, Hughes hasn't thrown it yet as a professional, but will be reintroducing it again in 2006. Brian Bannister of the Mets has a very good slider, but like Yusmeiro Petit, it isn't a normal slider. Bannister's slider acts more like a cut-fastball and Petit's is more of a slurve. Taking all of the secondary pitches into consideration, the Yankees have more plus pitches in their breaking stuff than the Mets. Advantage: Yankees

Command: Both the Mets and Yankees have pitching prospects will excellent command. Not surprisingly, Phil Hughes of the Yankees has the best command of any pitcher in either farm system. He walks less than two batters per nine innings and his career WHIP ratio is 0.85. Tyler Clippard also boasts some of the best control on the mound. As mentioned earlier, he too walks less than two batters per nine innings in his career and has a better than five to one strikeout-to-walk ratio. However, the trio of Christian Garcia, Matt DeSalvo, and Jeff Marquez, three of the Yankees' top pitching prospects, don't have consistent command of their pitches just yet.

Right behind Phil Hughes in the command department is Yusmeiro Petit of the Mets. Petit walks less than two batters per nine innings in his career and he walked just 24 batters in over 132 innings pitched this past season. Evan MacLane of the Mets, often left out of top pitching prospect discussions, is an elite control pitcher as well. His 24 walks in 171 innings this past season were a career high! Brian Bannister, Gaby Hernandez, and others give the Mets some solid control pitchers in their farm system. As mentioned, both farm systems boast some of the better control pitchers in the game and trying to find a decided edge between either would be splitting hairs. Advantage: Even.

Overall Potential: As previously noted, the Yankees have the top two pitching prospects as far as ceilings in Hughes and Garcia. Both have ace potential. Outside of those two, the Yankees simply have more depth of quality Major League arms in their farm system. The Mets can't touch the number of arms that project to be solid middle-of-the-rotation type of starters. Tyler Clippard, Matt DeSalvo, Jeff Marquez, Steven White, Francisco Castillo, Garrett Patterson, and Alan Horne can be equally as good, if not better than anybody the Mets can throw out on the mound. And that's even overlooking the likes of Sean Henn, Rolando Japa, Jeff Karstens, Eric Hacker, Abel Gomez, Brett Smith, Jim Conroy, Jeremy King, Domingo Cabrera, Lance Pendleton, and Jason Stephens - all solid Major League pitching prospects. 22 of the top 50 Yankees' prospects are starting pitchers, including 8 of their top 20.

Conversely, only 14 of the Mets' top 50 prospects are starting pitchers, including just 4 of their top 20. Beyond the likes of Philip Humber, Yusmeiro Petit, Brian Bannister, and Gaby Hernandez, the Mets don't have enough quality arms in their system to compare to the Yankees. Signing Mike Pelfrey will cause a minor ripple at the top of the pitching prospects, but it won't provide enough depth to compete with the Bombers. Advantage: Yankees.

Highest Ceilings: Phil Hughes (Yankees), Christian Garcia (Yankees), Philip Humber (Mets), Yusmeiro Petit (Mets), Tyler Clippard (Yankees).

Best Fastballs: Phil Hughes (Yankees), Christian Garcia (Yankees), Steven White (Yankees), Garrett Patterson (Yankees), Philip Humber (Mets)

Best Curveballs: Christian Garcia (Yankees), Philip Humber (Mets), Lance Pendleton (Yankees), Tyler Clippard (Yankees), Matt DeSalvo (Yankees)

Best Changeups: Jeff Marquez (Yankees), Jim Conroy (Yankees), Yusmeiro Petit (Mets), Evan MacLane (Mets), Matt DeSalvo (Yankees)

Best Sliders: Jason Jones (Yankees), Brian Bannister (Mets), Sean Henn (Yankees), Phil Hughes (Yankees), Yusmeiro Petit (Mets).

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\r\nThe Two Farm Systems: Between most of the position comparisons, from catcher to outfield, the Mets had an advantage over their cross-town rivals from the Bronx. But where the Yankees clearly have an edge is in the starting pitching department. The Yankees have spent a majority of their draft picks the last two seasons restocking what was a depleted crop of pitching prospects.
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\r\nCombining the pitchers from both farm systems, the Yankees have the only two pitchers that have ace potential at the Major League level. The cream of the pitching crop is right-handed hurler Phil Hughes. Hughes has a solid four pitch repertoire. Armed with a plus fastball and a solid curveball and changeup, Hughes simply dominated the A-level in his first year of professional baseball as a teenager. Drawing comparisons to Roger Clemens and Curt Schilling, Hughes will be reincorporating his slider, another plus pitch, into his repertoire in 2006. He'll still only be 19-year old when the new season begins and he could see ample time at the AA level.
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\r\nFlame-throwing Christian Garcia arguably has even better overall stuff than Hughes. He throws a fastball consistently in the mid-90's and compliments it with the best curveball in either farm system. While Garcia has unlimited potential, there are more question marks about his future. His command isn't nearly as honed as other pitching prospects. If Garcia can display the kind of focus and work ethic the Yankees seek, the sky is the limit for him.
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\r\nOutside of Hughes and Garcia, the Yankees have a plethora of quality starting pitching prospects that project to be fine middle-of-the-rotation starters at the Major League level. Tyler Clippard is a strikeout pitcher with great command of his pitches. He will enter the 2006 season with a career 3.32 ERA and a better than five to one strikeout-to-walk ratio. Matt DeSalvo, like Clippard, hasn't gotten the credit he deserves, mostly because he was undrafted free agent. Some of DeSalvo's teammates believe he has frontline starting stuff, even drawing comparisons to Greg Maddux for his ability to mix up his pitches well and using a cerebral approach on the mound.
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\r\nContinuing the onslaught of pitching depth in the Yankees' farm system, Jeff Marquez uses a plus changeup and a mean two-seam fastball to baffle opposing batters. Steven White is a three-pitch pitcher, throwing mostly low to mid-90's fastballs and a slurve (slider/curveball). He opened up some eyes in the Arizona Fall League after missing most of the 2005 season with an abdominal strain. Right-handed pitcher Alan Horne is one of the more intriguing pitching prospects in either system. Drafted in the 11th round this past season, Horne was drafted in the first round a few years ago but decided to attend college. Throwing in the low to mid-90's, Horne's repertoire, command, and poise on the mound are already that of a Major League pitcher. He should move through the minor leagues pretty quickly.
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\r\nThe Yankees also have solid pitching prospects in Jeff Karstens, Eric Hacker, Jim Conroy, and Jason Stephens, all of which project to be Major League pitchers someday. Throw in the high ceiling talents of Francisco Castillo, Rolando Japa, Domingo Cabrera, and Garrett Patterson, the Yankees are truly loaded at the starting pitching position.
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\r\nFor the Mets, until Mike Pelfrey signs, they don't have a true elite pitching prospect in their system, but a solid stock of middle-of-the-rotation type of starters. Based on pure stuff, right-handed Philip Humber has the best combination of plus pitches (fastball, curveball) to possibly become a little better than a #3 type of pitcher at the Major League level. However, he'll miss most, if not all, of the 2006 season after Tommy John surgery. Yusmeiro Petit is the Mets' version of Tyler Clippard in stuff and command, not physique. Petit just knows how to pitch and his minor league results speak for themselves. He's a sneaky pitcher that hides the ball incredibly well, usually giving batters a split second to recognize what is coming at them.
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\r\nBrian Bannister, the son of former Major Leaguer Floyd Bannister, had a breakout season in 2005, thanks in large part to a cut-fastball/slider that he incorporated into his repertoire. Like Petit, Bannister is more of a control pitcher who mixes in his pitches very well. Young right-handed pitcher Gaby Hernandez has quickly become a fan favorite, especially after tossing a no-hitter in the South Atlantic League this past season. Hernandez is a pitcher that will go right after batters and he's as competitive as they come on the mound. He still has some projection in his game, but he lacks a truly dominant pitch to become a frontline starting pitcher.
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\r\nOutside the Mets' big four of Humber, Petit, Bannister, and Hernandez, the remaining starting pitching prospects each have questions marks to their Major League potential. Right-handed pitcher Kevin Deaton has a solid repertoire with good command, but hasn't pitched a full season each of the last two years. Evan MacLane is more of a soft-tossing lefty, but uses a plus changeup and great control to hitters out. He's been compared to Jamie Moyer of the Seattle Mariners in that regard. Right-handed Scott Hyde missed the entire 2005 season after Tommy John surgery and has yet to throw 60 professional innings since being drafted in the 7th round of the 2004 MLB Draft. He has a very good curveball and has a shot of making it, but his rebound from Tommy John surgery is a major question mark at this time.
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\r\nHow Do They Compare In...
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\r\nFastballs: Until Pelfrey signs, the Mets don't have a starting pitching prospect that has a plus Major League fastball. Humber, who reportedly throws in the 91-93 MPH range, had a hard time hitting those levels this past season, perhaps due to his injury. He's the closest to having a very good Major League fastball. The likes of Petit, Bannister, Hernandez, and others throw in the 88-91 MPH range. Only Gaby Hernandez could wind up throwing a couple of ticks higher with his fastball right now.
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\r\nThe Yankees are the exact opposite in their stable of young arms. Phil Hughes, Christian Garcia, Alan Horne, Steven White, and Garrett Patterson all throw in low to mid-90's. Throw in the projection of teenage sensation Francisco Castillo's heater that currently sits in the low 90's and the devastating two-seam fastball of Jeff Marquez, the Yankees have a full cupboard of fastballs in their farm system. Comparing the fastballs in the Mets' system to the Yankees' system, it is not even close. Advantage: Yankees
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\r\nSecondary Pitches: Christian Garcia of the Yankees has the best curveball of any pitching prospect in either farm system. It is a power-knuckle curveball that he's able to throw in any situation. Philip Humber of the Mets also possesses a plus curveball, but is the only one in their farm system that compares to the depth of the Yankees' pitchers that throw very good curveballs.
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\r\nJeff Marquez has the best changeup of any pitcher in both farm systems, a strong statement considering how good the changeups are in both systems. Yusmeiro Petit also has a good changeup, mostly because of his deceptive delivery and his ability to hide the ball. While Evan MacLane of the Mets also has a plus changeup, it isn't any better than those of Jim Conroy or Matt DeSalvo of the Yankees.
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\r\nThe Mets have an edge over the Yankees in throwing sliders, mostly due to the fact that the Yankees don't allow their young pitching prospects to throw sliders at the lower levels, instead having them focus on harnessing their fastballs, curveballs, and changeups. The pitcher that may have the best slider from both farm systems is Phil Hughes. Considered a plus pitch for him in high school before being drafted, Hughes hasn't thrown it yet as a professional, but will be reintroducing it again in 2006. Brian Bannister of the Mets has a very good slider, but like Yusmeiro Petit, it isn't a normal slider. Bannister's slider acts more like a cut-fastball and Petit's is more of a slurve. Taking all of the secondary pitches into consideration, the Yankees have more plus pitches in their breaking stuff than the Mets. Advantage: Yankees
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\r\nCommand: Both the Mets and Yankees have pitching prospects will excellent command. Not surprisingly, Phil Hughes of the Yankees has the best command of any pitcher in either farm system. He walks less than two batters per nine innings and his career WHIP ratio is 0.85. Tyler Clippard also boasts some of the best control on the mound. As mentioned earlier, he too walks less than two batters per nine innings in his career and has a better than five to one strikeout-to-walk ratio. However, the trio of Christian Garcia, Matt DeSalvo, and Jeff Marquez, three of the Yankees' top pitching prospects, don't have consistent command of their pitches just yet.
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\r\nRight behind Phil Hughes in the command department is Yusmeiro Petit of the Mets. Petit walks less than two batters per nine innings in his career and he walked just 24 batters in over 132 innings pitched this past season. Evan MacLane of the Mets, often left out of top pitching prospect discussions, is an elite control pitcher as well. His 24 walks in 171 innings this past season were a career high! Brian Bannister, Gaby Hernandez, and others give the Mets some solid control pitchers in their farm system. As mentioned, both farm systems boast some of the better control pitchers in the game and trying to find a decided edge between either would be splitting hairs. Advantage: Even.
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\r\nOverall Potential: As previously noted, the Yankees have the top two pitching prospects as far as ceilings in Hughes and Garcia. Both have ace potential. Outside of those two, the Yankees simply have more depth of quality Major League arms in their farm system. The Mets can't touch the number of arms that project to be solid middle-of-the-rotation type of starters. Tyler Clippard, Matt DeSalvo, Jeff Marquez, Steven White, Francisco Castillo, Garrett Patterson, and Alan Horne can be equally as good, if not better than anybody the Mets can throw out on the mound. And that's even overlooking the likes of Sean Henn, Rolando Japa, Jeff Karstens, Eric Hacker, Abel Gomez, Brett Smith, Jim Conroy, Jeremy King, Domingo Cabrera, Lance Pendleton, and Jason Stephens - all solid Major League pitching prospects. 22 of the top 50 Yankees' prospects are starting pitchers, including 8 of their top 20.
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\r\nConversely, only 14 of the Mets' top 50 prospects are starting pitchers, including just 4 of their top 20. Beyond the likes of Philip Humber, Yusmeiro Petit, Brian Bannister, and Gaby Hernandez, the Mets don't have enough quality arms in their system to compare to the Yankees. Signing Mike Pelfrey will cause a minor ripple at the top of the pitching prospects, but it won't provide enough depth to compete with the Bombers. Advantage: Yankees.
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\r\nHighest Ceilings: Phil Hughes (Yankees), Christian Garcia (Yankees), Philip Humber (Mets), Yusmeiro Petit (Mets), Tyler Clippard (Yankees).
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\r\nBest Fastballs: Phil Hughes (Yankees), Christian Garcia (Yankees), Steven White (Yankees), Garrett Patterson (Yankees), Philip Humber (Mets)
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\r\nBest Curveballs: Christian Garcia (Yankees), Philip Humber (Mets), Lance Pendleton (Yankees), Tyler Clippard (Yankees), Matt DeSalvo (Yankees)
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\r\nBest Changeups: Jeff Marquez (Yankees), Jim Conroy (Yankees), Yusmeiro Petit (Mets), Evan MacLane (Mets), Matt DeSalvo (Yankees)
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\r\nBest Sliders: Jason Jones (Yankees), Brian Bannister (Mets), Sean Henn (Yankees), Phil Hughes (Yankees), Yusmeiro Petit (Mets).
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