Q&A with Gary Denbo - Part II

Gary Denbo, the former Yankees minor league hitting coordinator who recently became the Toronto Blue Jays hitting coach, sits down with PinstripesPlus.com for a three-part Q&A series. In part two he tells us why he thinks Brett Gardner's critics are wrong, if he thinks Mitch Hilligoss and Jose Tabata will hit for more power, what he saw from Austin Jackson and Jesus Montero, and much more.

PinstripesPlus.com: Austin Jackson kind of struggled a little bit in his return trip to Charleston this year but then really turned it around in Tampa. What kind of adjustments did you see from him this year?

Gary Denbo: I think sometimes a change of scenery is what's needed. He had spent a full season last year in the South Atlantic League and went back for another course I guess you could say. I think Torre Tyson and Greg Colbrunn did a nice job with him. He worked on trying to improve his separation, trying to get better balance, and getting in a better position to hit when his stride foot lands. It's an on-going thing with him - it's something he's going to have to focus on his whole career - but he just got continually better.

I guess the thing you could see the most was his improvement hitting the inside fastball. He had trouble getting to that earlier in his career. He has just gotten better and better taking a better route to get to the inside fastball. We moved him to Tampa and he got off to a great start there. I think his confidence was sky-high and I think all of the work that he did the year and a half he was in Charleston kind of paid off once he got some confidence. I think he saw a lot more fastballs in the Florida State League and once he got off to a great start there, things just took off for him. He's definitely a player that's got a lot of ability and he's got a chance to be an everyday player in the Major Leagues.

PinstripesPlus: Mitch Hilligoss obviously can hit, but a lot of people look at his lower home run totals and the position he plays and doubt he'll hit for enough power as he advances. What do you see from him? Do you think there's more power in his stroke?

Denbo: It's up to Mitch. He's got the strength to hit for power and he's got the swing to hit for power. I would say Mitch's limitation right now is he doesn't get the pitches to hit that he can drive. He's kind of his own worst enemy when it comes to swinging at pitches outside the zone. I didn't see very many pitchers get Mitch Hilligoss out this year. Most of the time Mitch expanded his hitting zone to the point where he would get himself out.

He has great hitting ability. It's fun to watch this guy hit but what he's going to have to learn is to become more disciplined inside of the strike zone before you're going to see those power numbers take off. I would say he's got an excellent chance at hitting for a lot more power because he's going to have to be a corner infielder so he's going to have to hit for some power, and I think he's got an excellent chance to develop that power as long as he becomes a more disciplined hitter.

PinstripesPlus: Another player the fans quickly dismiss as a future everyday player at the big league level because of his perceived lack of power is Brett Gardner. Do you see him eventually hitting for enough power to be an everyday player at the big league level?

Denbo: Yeah the people who say he's nothing more than a reserve outfielder I believe are wrong. I think he's an everyday player in the major leagues. To know Brett Gardner and to know what's going on with his lack of power right now you've kind of have to go back to his college days when he was more of a slap-and-run type hitter. He was actually taught how to hit the ball on the ground to the left side of the infield and use his tremendous speed to get on base and then wreak havoc once he got on base by stealing bases.

So where he is right now he's still in the development process of learning to use his lower-half to be more able to drive balls into the gaps. I don't look at the Brett Gardner of the future and expect him to hit a lot of home runs, but he is a guy, especially if he plays in Yankee Stadium, who could be an 8-15 home run guy. Along with that, use his tremendous speed and ability to move the ball around the entire field to hit. His discipline is outstanding. He can use the entire field to hit, he's a disciplined hitter, and he's in the process right now of developing the use of his lower-half so that when he does make contact - he's just going to continue to get better.

You're going to see his doubles total go up and his triples total go up before you see his home run totals go up. Probably because of where he is right now - he's a Triple-A player - you're probably going to see that power develop in his first few years in the Major Leagues and I'm sure you know of people who have done that. I see that happening with Brett.

PinstripesPlus: Some other news sources got down on Jesus Montero even before he had played an official minor league game, not knowing you guys were working with his technique. What did you see from him this year adjustment-wise and what can we can expect from him down the road?

Denbo: He was a guy we expected when he signed to hit for power obviously because he showed that ability at a very young age. [He was working] to improve the consistency of his swing path so he can he can use that tremendous power more often, put the good part of the bat on the ball more often. As far as his progress this year I think a large part of the credit goes to, what I think is tremendous progress, belongs to Julio Mosquera. Julio kind of took Jesus under his wing and not only helped him a lot on defense but helped him a lot on offense.

He got him to understand that he needed to eliminate some of the excess movement in his load and his stride and in his swing, to make a more consistent loading action and a more consistent stride for better balance, for better timing. Once he gets himself in better control and once he gets himself into good position to make a good swing on the ball, really the sky's the limit for this young man. He really impressed me this year with his progress. He's got a chance to be an outstanding run producer.

PinstripesPlus: Jose Tabata continues to hit for high averages and again, some doubters point to his lower home run totals and get down on his overall game. Do you see the power in his swing and what kind of hitter do you think he'll become down the road?

Denbo: He's going to hit for a high average, I see that. When we talk about developing hitters - my game plan for developing minor league hitters has been and will always be is that power is the last thing we're concerned with. From a fans' standpoint, sure they'd like to see home run numbers and imagine what that might translate into at the major league level, but what we want to see is disciplined hitters. We want to see guys, if they're not putting up great home run numbers, then we want to see guys put up high doubles totals. Most guys that hit for a high average that put up decent doubles totals throughout the year - he's 19 years old in the Florida State League putting up outstanding offensive numbers.

I think power will develop in his game. I'm not going to venture to guess how many home runs he's going to hit once he makes it to the major leagues, but he's a major league player and he's going to be a guy where the power develops once he gains a better understanding of what pitches he can drive, when to look for those pitches, and the right approach to take once he does get them. Once he understands all of those things you're going to see his power numbers get higher and higher. He's and outstanding hitter and a future major league hitter.

PinstripesPlus: With Alex Rodriguez opting out of his contract the first thing people are going to do is look to the farm system for possible third basemen and the guy that seems the closest is Marcos Vechionacci. What have you see from him development-wise and is he ready to make that next step with better offensive numbers?

Denbo: I think Marcos is a guy who is going to develop a little bit later than the other guys. He's got long limbs - long arms, long legs, and his upper-half and his lower-half is not always in sync when he hits. That's a very important thing to have for timing and for the ability to control the bat head. You need to be in sync with your lower-half and upper-half and I think Marcos is not there yet. I think he's going to be a late-bloomer. I think he's going to be a guy again who develops later than some of the other guys.

The one thing that Marcos has to do is make sure he develops his body as well as his swing. He needs to gain strength and he really needs to get after it in the weight room to make sure he's got himself in peak physical condition, strength-wise especially, so that he can take advantage of his skills. This guy plays the game easy. The game, especially defensively - you watch him play defense and the game comes easy to him. He's got nice fluid movements.

I've worked with hitters over the years that are his size, with longer arms and longer legs and it sometimes takes those guys longer to develop. Their strength comes a little bit later and their ability to get their body in sync during their swing takes a little bit longer. That's what I see happening to him.

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\r\nGary Denbo: I think sometimes a change of scenery is what's needed. He had spent a full season last year in the South Atlantic League and went back for another course I guess you could say. I think Torre Tyson and Greg Colbrunn did a nice job with him. He worked on trying to improve his separation, trying to get better balance, and getting in a better position to hit when his stride foot lands. It's an on-going thing with him - it's something he's going to have to focus on his whole career - but he just got continually better.
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\r\nI guess the thing you could see the most was his improvement hitting the inside fastball. He had trouble getting to that earlier in his career. He has just gotten better and better taking a better route to get to the inside fastball. We moved him to Tampa and he got off to a great start there. I think his confidence was sky-high and I think all of the work that he did the year and a half he was in Charleston kind of paid off once he got some confidence. I think he saw a lot more fastballs in the Florida State League and once he got off to a great start there, things just took off for him. He's definitely a player that's got a lot of ability and he's got a chance to be an everyday player in the Major Leagues.
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\r\nPinstripesPlus: Mitch Hilligoss obviously can hit, but a lot of people look at his lower home run totals and the position he plays and doubt he'll hit for enough power as he advances. What do you see from him? Do you think there's more power in his stroke?
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\r\nDenbo: It's up to Mitch. He's got the strength to hit for power and he's got the swing to hit for power. I would say Mitch's limitation right now is he doesn't get the pitches to hit that he can drive. He's kind of his own worst enemy when it comes to swinging at pitches outside the zone. I didn't see very many pitchers get Mitch Hilligoss out this year. Most of the time Mitch expanded his hitting zone to the point where he would get himself out.
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\r\nHe has great hitting ability. It's fun to watch this guy hit but what he's going to have to learn is to become more disciplined inside of the strike zone before you're going to see those power numbers take off. I would say he's got an excellent chance at hitting for a lot more power because he's going to have to be a corner infielder so he's going to have to hit for some power, and I think he's got an excellent chance to develop that power as long as he becomes a more disciplined hitter.
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\r\nPinstripesPlus: Another player the fans quickly dismiss as a future everyday player at the big league level because of his perceived lack of power is Brett Gardner. Do you see him eventually hitting for enough power to be an everyday player at the big league level?
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\r\nDenbo: Yeah the people who say he's nothing more than a reserve outfielder I believe are wrong. I think he's an everyday player in the major leagues. To know Brett Gardner and to know what's going on with his lack of power right now you've kind of have to go back to his college days when he was more of a slap-and-run type hitter. He was actually taught how to hit the ball on the ground to the left side of the infield and use his tremendous speed to get on base and then wreak havoc once he got on base by stealing bases.
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\r\nSo where he is right now he's still in the development process of learning to use his lower-half to be more able to drive balls into the gaps. I don't look at the Brett Gardner of the future and expect him to hit a lot of home runs, but he is a guy, especially if he plays in Yankee Stadium, who could be an 8-15 home run guy. Along with that, use his tremendous speed and ability to move the ball around the entire field to hit. His discipline is outstanding. He can use the entire field to hit, he's a disciplined hitter, and he's in the process right now of developing the use of his lower-half so that when he does make contact - he's just going to continue to get better.
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\r\nYou're going to see his doubles total go up and his triples total go up before you see his home run totals go up. Probably because of where he is right now - he's a Triple-A player - you're probably going to see that power develop in his first few years in the Major Leagues and I'm sure you know of people who have done that. I see that happening with Brett.
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\r\nPinstripesPlus: Some other news sources got down on Jesus Montero even before he had played an official minor league game, not knowing you guys were working with his technique. What did you see from him this year adjustment-wise and what can we can expect from him down the road?
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\r\nDenbo: He was a guy we expected when he signed to hit for power obviously because he showed that ability at a very young age. [He was working] to improve the consistency of his swing path so he can he can use that tremendous power more often, put the good part of the bat on the ball more often. As far as his progress this year I think a large part of the credit goes to, what I think is tremendous progress, belongs to Julio Mosquera. Julio kind of took Jesus under his wing and not only helped him a lot on defense but helped him a lot on offense.
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\r\nHe got him to understand that he needed to eliminate some of the excess movement in his load and his stride and in his swing, to make a more consistent loading action and a more consistent stride for better balance, for better timing. Once he gets himself in better control and once he gets himself into good position to make a good swing on the ball, really the sky's the limit for this young man. He really impressed me this year with his progress. He's got a chance to be an outstanding run producer.
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\r\nPinstripesPlus: Jose Tabata continues to hit for high averages and again, some doubters point to his lower home run totals and get down on his overall game. Do you see the power in his swing and what kind of hitter do you think he'll become down the road?
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\r\nDenbo: He's going to hit for a high average, I see that. When we talk about developing hitters - my game plan for developing minor league hitters has been and will always be is that power is the last thing we're concerned with. From a fans' standpoint, sure they'd like to see home run numbers and imagine what that might translate into at the major league level, but what we want to see is disciplined hitters. We want to see guys, if they're not putting up great home run numbers, then we want to see guys put up high doubles totals. Most guys that hit for a high average that put up decent doubles totals throughout the year - he's 19 years old in the Florida State League putting up outstanding offensive numbers.
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\r\nI think power will develop in his game. I'm not going to venture to guess how many home runs he's going to hit once he makes it to the major leagues, but he's a major league player and he's going to be a guy where the power develops once he gains a better understanding of what pitches he can drive, when to look for those pitches, and the right approach to take once he does get them. Once he understands all of those things you're going to see his power numbers get higher and higher. He's and outstanding hitter and a future major league hitter.
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\r\nPinstripesPlus: With Alex Rodriguez opting out of his contract the first thing people are going to do is look to the farm system for possible third basemen and the guy that seems the closest is Marcos Vechionacci. What have you see from him development-wise and is he ready to make that next step with better offensive numbers?
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\r\nDenbo: I think Marcos is a guy who is going to develop a little bit later than the other guys. He's got long limbs - long arms, long legs, and his upper-half and his lower-half is not always in sync when he hits. That's a very important thing to have for timing and for the ability to control the bat head. You need to be in sync with your lower-half and upper-half and I think Marcos is not there yet. I think he's going to be a late-bloomer. I think he's going to be a guy again who develops later than some of the other guys.
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\r\nThe one thing that Marcos has to do is make sure he develops his body as well as his swing. He needs to gain strength and he really needs to get after it in the weight room to make sure he's got himself in peak physical condition, strength-wise especially, so that he can take advantage of his skills. This guy plays the game easy. The game, especially defensively - you watch him play defense and the game comes easy to him. He's got nice fluid movements.
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\r\nI've worked with hitters over the years that are his size, with longer arms and longer legs and it sometimes takes those guys longer to develop. Their strength comes a little bit later and their ability to get their body in sync during their swing takes a little bit longer. That's what I see happening to him.
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