Q&A with Nardi Contreras - Part I

Nardi Contreras, the Yankees Minor League Pitching Coordinator, sits down with PinstripesPlus.com for a long Q&A session. In Part One of our two-part series, Nardi talks about the status of Christian Garcia, why Angel Reyes is back in Extended Spring Training, how J.B. Cox looked in Spring Training, who was the most impressive pitcher in camp, and more.

PinstripesPlus.com: Was there a pitcher or two that stood out for you in camp this past Spring Training?

Nardi Contreras: Dellin Betances was very good. He jumps out. He seems like he has understood his arm slot now and he was throwing the ball really well. He threw the ball well [in his last outing] to get his first win in the low-A ball league, getting out of the rookie leagues. He's throwing his changeup, he's throwing the ball downhill, he's keeping the ball down, he's throwing with some real nice velo [velocity], and with the big hammer that he has. It was very good to see him pitching like that and he did that in the Dominican Republic. Now the finishing touch is getting that slot. He came in early and got that slot, and now it looks like he's clicking.

PinstripesPlus: Talk about Jairo Heredia. The last time we spoke you said all he really needed to do was get innings. What did you see from him in Spring Training and how encouraged are you with him making the jump to the South Atlantic League?

Contreras: He controls the fastball, he throws strikes with his fastball and he's got that power curveball. Now he's developing his changeup. He can pitch now with two pitches but he's going to need that third pitch and that's what he's going to be working on. He throws strikes with his fastball and curveball. I think he'll be able to compete in Charleston while he's developing the changeup. That's where he's at and we want to make sure he works on that quick-step to deliver the ball home with runners on base in a quicker mode. He's throwing a little bit harder this year than he did last year and that's always a positive. I don't know how high he's going to go because he's going to get bigger and stronger. With more strength and size, I'm sure the velo is going to come even more, but what he's going going is he can throw strikes and he's got a tremendous curveball that he can throw for strikes. The development of the changeup, that's what we're looking for right now.

PinstripesPlus: Sticking with the Charleston theme for right now, talk about Zach McAllister. The big thing late last year was he didn't have his changeup and slider on par with his fastball - how about those two pitches right now?

Contreras: They're coming along really well. He has shown some quality sliders and quality changeups. He's just got to remember that he's got to use the same arm speed with his slider and changeup as he does with his fastball, not to slow down his arm with his two offspeed pitches. If he does that, he's going to do really well. But if he slows down his arm he's going to be telling everybody in the ballpark that he's going to be throwing something offspeed. He's just got to trust it and he showed this spring the same way he did it in the Dominican Republic, that he has it. Now he's got to use it and trust it on a consistent basis.

PinstripesPlus: A guy who seemed to be pretty impressive in camp was Wilkins De La Rosa. We all know he's got the power arm, but he seemed to have gotten his secondary pitches much better. Talk about the development of his secondary pitches in particular.

Contreras: It's the same thing with De La Rosa. He's got the power arm, he's got the slider and he's got the changeup, but what he does - just like I was saying with McAllister - he'll slow down his arm at times to make sure he throws them for strikes instead of using his arm speed. When you slow down your arm you're just telling everybody 'here comes something offspeed'. His development is the same way - his delivery is good and he's got power in his arm, and he's just got to trust the offspeed when he throws his breaking ball and his changeup.

PinstripesPlus: Noel Castillo seems to pitch well every time he goes out on the mound. Talk about his development right now. Where is his game?

Contreras: He's got a power arm. He's got a quick arm, it's just lightning. I'm not going to put him in the same category as Joba Chamberlain, but Chamberlain has a very quick arm also. With Noel it just comes out so quick out of his arm that his fastball has a lot of life. His changeup is coming along real nice. He threw real well during Spring Training and his breaking ball is going to be a continuing development. He threw some good ones and he threw some bad ones, but that's where he's at right now. He's in Charleston to make sure he's going to develop those pitches. He's got a great arm with that fastball but he needs to develop the offspeed pitches. The changeup is ahead of the breaking ball right now. It's a breaking ball - I don't call it a slider or a curveball - it's a breaking ball. I don't like the word slurve because when people talk slurve, they're talking about something that's very hittable. I just call it a breaking ball, like Chase Wright's is a breaking ball, Phil Coke now has a breaking ball, etc.

PinstripesPlus: Talk about J. Brent Cox. I know he's still down there in Extended Spring Training, but he looked pretty good pitching in regular Spring Training. Where do you think his game is right now?

Contreras: 'Coxy' has come along real nice. He's down at the knees where he's always been, he's down there with a lot of sink, and he's got a big league quality breaking ball. When he misses, he missed down. His arm feels good and now we're giving him innings that way we can get him out of here, out of Extended Spring Training and back to playing some real baseball somewhere. Most likely it's going to be in Tampa where it's still warm.

PinstripesPlus: Angel Reyes is back in Extended Spring Training too. Is that more performance related or is that more injury related?

Contreras: Angel Reyes has everything it takes to pitch in the big leagues. It's just consistency. He's just got to learn he doesn't have to power everything. If he just stays within himself - he's got a power arm, a power curveball - [the other day] he made it look real easy. He pitched an inning and there was no contest. He tried to power up on one ball and it went to the backstop just about. He's just got to get it into his brain that he doesn't have to try and use his body to throw the ball hard. His arm speed and velocity comes from his arm with a smooth delivery and it's going to jump out of his hand. He learns that no matter how many times we tell him, he's just going to have to do that himself. Whenever that's accomplished this kid's got the chance to pitch in the big leagues because he's got big league stuff.

PinstripesPlus: Christian Garcia developed a little bit of sore shoulder there in his last Spring Training outing. Is that something we should be concerned with or is that more of a minor stumbling block?

Contreras: Yeah it's minor. [Saturday] he [started] playing catch again. It happens to a lot of young kids once they've had an injury or something, they feel something and there's always a concern that they don't want to get hurt again. That's what it turned out to be. It was nothing. He's had some rest and now he's throwing again. I don't think it's going to be a prolonged thing because he was ahead when he felt something so he doesn't have to start from the beginning anymore. He's going to be somewhere in the middle as we get him closer to be able to compete at a different level.

PinstripesPlus: How was he looking in your opinion before that?

Contreras: Oh he was awesome. He was just awesome. He was downhill - in fact Scotty Aldred [Trenton pitching coach] uses his delivery to show all the pitchers on how a delivery should be. So mechanically he's sound, the changeup he has developed is awesome, the curveball we know is awesome, and the arm strength and the life that he has - it's going to be a matter of time when everything starts clicking and you'll see him in the big leagues.

PinstripesPlus: Talk about Arodys Vizcaino. He looked very impressive in the Dominican but he looked even more relaxed on the mound this past Spring Training. Did you see that as well?

Contreras: Yeah Vizcaino is getting more and more comfortable. He had a tremendous bullpen [on Friday] as we're getting his delivery down. He was throwing a little more side to side, now he's learning to go more north and south, getting his curveball to go more south, getting his pitches to come downhill, and he's working on the development of his changeup. The kid's 17 years old and he's got a tremendous arm. He's got a plus curveball. He's a kid who listens and he learns. It doesn't take him long, which is real positive when you get some kids from the Dominican Republics, and he's going to be a good one.

PinstripesPlus: Talk about Lance Pendleton. He pitched pretty well there in Spring Training and he broke with Charleston. How happy are you with his development right now?

Contreras: I'm really happy. You know this is really going to be his first full year. We're just going to keep him healthy. He didn't pitch much at all last year in real baseball. He's going to piggy-back at Charleston. He's going to pitch every three days and that's how we're going to take care of him, pitch him three innings with three days of rest in between so he can get a little bit of work in. Whenever there's a day off he'll be pitching on the fifth day, so he'll get his work in without being overused in any way, especially after not pitching for a couple of years.

PinstripesPlus: Talk about Mark Melancon in Spring Training - what did you see from him?

Contreras: What I saw from Melancon was he's a big league pitcher. He's just gaining arm strength. He's got three pitches going. The changeup came in the Dominican Republic, he developed that so quick to go along with both of his fastballs - the four-seam and the two-seam - and he's got a big-time plus curveball. He throws strikes too. Now we've just got to keep him pitching and get him innings to get him some arm strength, and then we'll see how far he goes.

PinstripesPlus: We all know that Ivan Nova has the great stuff but we talked about his pitch-ability after last season. Did you see him make strides with his pitch-ability in Spring Training where he was expanding the zone and setting up batters more? What's your outlook for him this season?

Contreras: Yes I think he's matured and I think he's learning to do those things more than just throwing strike after strike. He needs to pitch inside, he needs to expand the zone, and just assert himself more because it comes just so easy out of his arm that he feels just because he can throw strikes he thinks he's going to get people out. Once guys learn how to read his pitches more and get on his velocity and stuff, he's going to have to make some changes. He's got to make sure he pitches in and he's got to keep batters honest by expanding the zone. That's all going to be learning process. He has the pitches and now it's the pitch-ability he has to learn how to work into his repertoire.

PinstripesPlus: I didn't get to see him at all this spring, but what did you see from Ryan Pope?

Contreras: Ryan Pope is a kid that is a pitcher. He can go to both sides of the plate with both fastballs, he has a changeup now that he developed during the Instructional League, and he's got a curveball. He also does have a slider that he's going to break out here whenever he wants to. I gave our pitching coach 'Pav' the freedom that whenever he wants to start using his slider that he can. I believe that was the pitch he used out of college more than the curveball. We've developed the curveball so now he can start using his slider also. The kid's going to throw strikes. You're going to have to hit him to beat him, he changes speeds, and he has a lot of pitch-ability.

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\r\nNardi Contreras: Dellin Betances was very good. He jumps out. He seems like he has understood his arm slot now and he was throwing the ball really well. He threw the ball well [in his last outing] to get his first win in the low-A ball league, getting out of the rookie leagues. He's throwing his changeup, he's throwing the ball downhill, he's keeping the ball down, he's throwing with some real nice velo [velocity], and with the big hammer that he has. It was very good to see him pitching like that and he did that in the Dominican Republic. Now the finishing touch is getting that slot. He came in early and got that slot, and now it looks like he's clicking.
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\r\nPinstripesPlus: Talk about Jairo Heredia. The last time we spoke you said all he really needed to do was get innings. What did you see from him in Spring Training and how encouraged are you with him making the jump to the South Atlantic League?
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\r\nContreras: He controls the fastball, he throws strikes with his fastball and he's got that power curveball. Now he's developing his changeup. He can pitch now with two pitches but he's going to need that third pitch and that's what he's going to be working on. He throws strikes with his fastball and curveball. I think he'll be able to compete in Charleston while he's developing the changeup. That's where he's at and we want to make sure he works on that quick-step to deliver the ball home with runners on base in a quicker mode. He's throwing a little bit harder this year than he did last year and that's always a positive. I don't know how high he's going to go because he's going to get bigger and stronger. With more strength and size, I'm sure the velo is going to come even more, but what he's going going is he can throw strikes and he's got a tremendous curveball that he can throw for strikes. The development of the changeup, that's what we're looking for right now.
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\r\nPinstripesPlus: Sticking with the Charleston theme for right now, talk about Zach McAllister. The big thing late last year was he didn't have his changeup and slider on par with his fastball - how about those two pitches right now?
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\r\nContreras: They're coming along really well. He has shown some quality sliders and quality changeups. He's just got to remember that he's got to use the same arm speed with his slider and changeup as he does with his fastball, not to slow down his arm with his two offspeed pitches. If he does that, he's going to do really well. But if he slows down his arm he's going to be telling everybody in the ballpark that he's going to be throwing something offspeed. He's just got to trust it and he showed this spring the same way he did it in the Dominican Republic, that he has it. Now he's got to use it and trust it on a consistent basis.
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\r\nPinstripesPlus: A guy who seemed to be pretty impressive in camp was Wilkins De La Rosa. We all know he's got the power arm, but he seemed to have gotten his secondary pitches much better. Talk about the development of his secondary pitches in particular.
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\r\nContreras: It's the same thing with De La Rosa. He's got the power arm, he's got the slider and he's got the changeup, but what he does - just like I was saying with McAllister - he'll slow down his arm at times to make sure he throws them for strikes instead of using his arm speed. When you slow down your arm you're just telling everybody 'here comes something offspeed'. His development is the same way - his delivery is good and he's got power in his arm, and he's just got to trust the offspeed when he throws his breaking ball and his changeup.
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\r\nPinstripesPlus: Noel Castillo seems to pitch well every time he goes out on the mound. Talk about his development right now. Where is his game?
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\r\nContreras: He's got a power arm. He's got a quick arm, it's just lightning. I'm not going to put him in the same category as Joba Chamberlain, but Chamberlain has a very quick arm also. With Noel it just comes out so quick out of his arm that his fastball has a lot of life. His changeup is coming along real nice. He threw real well during Spring Training and his breaking ball is going to be a continuing development. He threw some good ones and he threw some bad ones, but that's where he's at right now. He's in Charleston to make sure he's going to develop those pitches. He's got a great arm with that fastball but he needs to develop the offspeed pitches. The changeup is ahead of the breaking ball right now. It's a breaking ball - I don't call it a slider or a curveball - it's a breaking ball. I don't like the word slurve because when people talk slurve, they're talking about something that's very hittable. I just call it a breaking ball, like Chase Wright's is a breaking ball, Phil Coke now has a breaking ball, etc.
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\r\nPinstripesPlus: Talk about J. Brent Cox. I know he's still down there in Extended Spring Training, but he looked pretty good pitching in regular Spring Training. Where do you think his game is right now?
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\r\nContreras: 'Coxy' has come along real nice. He's down at the knees where he's always been, he's down there with a lot of sink, and he's got a big league quality breaking ball. When he misses, he missed down. His arm feels good and now we're giving him innings that way we can get him out of here, out of Extended Spring Training and back to playing some real baseball somewhere. Most likely it's going to be in Tampa where it's still warm.
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\r\nPinstripesPlus: Angel Reyes is back in Extended Spring Training too. Is that more performance related or is that more injury related?
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\r\nContreras: Angel Reyes has everything it takes to pitch in the big leagues. It's just consistency. He's just got to learn he doesn't have to power everything. If he just stays within himself - he's got a power arm, a power curveball - [the other day] he made it look real easy. He pitched an inning and there was no contest. He tried to power up on one ball and it went to the backstop just about. He's just got to get it into his brain that he doesn't have to try and use his body to throw the ball hard. His arm speed and velocity comes from his arm with a smooth delivery and it's going to jump out of his hand. He learns that no matter how many times we tell him, he's just going to have to do that himself. Whenever that's accomplished this kid's got the chance to pitch in the big leagues because he's got big league stuff.
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\r\nPinstripesPlus: Christian Garcia developed a little bit of sore shoulder there in his last Spring Training outing. Is that something we should be concerned with or is that more of a minor stumbling block?
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\r\nContreras: Yeah it's minor. [Saturday] he [started] playing catch again. It happens to a lot of young kids once they've had an injury or something, they feel something and there's always a concern that they don't want to get hurt again. That's what it turned out to be. It was nothing. He's had some rest and now he's throwing again. I don't think it's going to be a prolonged thing because he was ahead when he felt something so he doesn't have to start from the beginning anymore. He's going to be somewhere in the middle as we get him closer to be able to compete at a different level.
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\r\nPinstripesPlus: How was he looking in your opinion before that?
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\r\nContreras: Oh he was awesome. He was just awesome. He was downhill - in fact Scotty Aldred [Trenton pitching coach] uses his delivery to show all the pitchers on how a delivery should be. So mechanically he's sound, the changeup he has developed is awesome, the curveball we know is awesome, and the arm strength and the life that he has - it's going to be a matter of time when everything starts clicking and you'll see him in the big leagues.
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\r\nPinstripesPlus: Talk about Arodys Vizcaino. He looked very impressive in the Dominican but he looked even more relaxed on the mound this past Spring Training. Did you see that as well?
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\r\nContreras: Yeah Vizcaino is getting more and more comfortable. He had a tremendous bullpen [on Friday] as we're getting his delivery down. He was throwing a little more side to side, now he's learning to go more north and south, getting his curveball to go more south, getting his pitches to come downhill, and he's working on the development of his changeup. The kid's 17 years old and he's got a tremendous arm. He's got a plus curveball. He's a kid who listens and he learns. It doesn't take him long, which is real positive when you get some kids from the Dominican Republics, and he's going to be a good one.
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\r\nPinstripesPlus: Talk about Lance Pendleton. He pitched pretty well there in Spring Training and he broke with Charleston. How happy are you with his development right now?
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\r\nContreras: I'm really happy. You know this is really going to be his first full year. We're just going to keep him healthy. He didn't pitch much at all last year in real baseball. He's going to piggy-back at Charleston. He's going to pitch every three days and that's how we're going to take care of him, pitch him three innings with three days of rest in between so he can get a little bit of work in. Whenever there's a day off he'll be pitching on the fifth day, so he'll get his work in without being overused in any way, especially after not pitching for a couple of years.
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\r\nPinstripesPlus: Talk about Mark Melancon in Spring Training - what did you see from him?
\r\n
\r\nContreras: What I saw from Melancon was he's a big league pitcher. He's just gaining arm strength. He's got three pitches going. The changeup came in the Dominican Republic, he developed that so quick to go along with both of his fastballs - the four-seam and the two-seam - and he's got a big-time plus curveball. He throws strikes too. Now we've just got to keep him pitching and get him innings to get him some arm strength, and then we'll see how far he goes.
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\r\nPinstripesPlus: We all know that Ivan Nova has the great stuff but we talked about his pitch-ability after last season. Did you see him make strides with his pitch-ability in Spring Training where he was expanding the zone and setting up batters more? What's your outlook for him this season?
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\r\nContreras: Yes I think he's matured and I think he's learning to do those things more than just throwing strike after strike. He needs to pitch inside, he needs to expand the zone, and just assert himself more because it comes just so easy out of his arm that he feels just because he can throw strikes he thinks he's going to get people out. Once guys learn how to read his pitches more and get on his velocity and stuff, he's going to have to make some changes. He's got to make sure he pitches in and he's got to keep batters honest by expanding the zone. That's all going to be learning process. He has the pitches and now it's the pitch-ability he has to learn how to work into his repertoire.
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\r\nPinstripesPlus: I didn't get to see him at all this spring, but what did you see from Ryan Pope?
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\r\nContreras: Ryan Pope is a kid that is a pitcher. He can go to both sides of the plate with both fastballs, he has a changeup now that he developed during the Instructional League, and he's got a curveball. He also does have a slider that he's going to break out here whenever he wants to. I gave our pitching coach 'Pav' the freedom that whenever he wants to start using his slider that he can. I believe that was the pitch he used out of college more than the curveball. We've developed the curveball so now he can start using his slider also. The kid's going to throw strikes. You're going to have to hit him to beat him, he changes speeds, and he has a lot of pitch-ability.
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