Q&A with Nardi Contreras - Part II

Nardi Contreras, the Yankees Minor League Pitching Coordinator, sits down with PinstripesPlus.com for a long Q&A session. In Part Two of our two-part series, Nardi talks about the development of the changeups for George Kontos and Alan Horne, how Kevin Whelan is progressing, how impressed he is with David Robertson, what Scott Patterson needs to do to get up to the big leagues, and more.

[Photo by Jon Star]

PinstripesPlus.com: Talk about Mike Dunn. He had the great year in Charleston last year. How did he look in Spring Training and are you encouraged with his development?

Nardi Contreras: Yes, Michael Dunn is learning how to pitch. He's got good stuff. He's got both fastballs, he's got some power, he's got some sink to his fastball, he's got the hard slider, and he has developed the changeup. Now it's just learning how to pitch. He doesn't have that much experience underneath his belt and that's what he's going to be getting. He did well at the level he was at last year in his first true year that he's pitched. Now this is year two and it's a little bit better competition so he's going to have to learn how to pitch more.

PinstripesPlus: Talk about Grant Duff. Is the plan to stick with him as a starting pitcher or is he moving to the bullpen?

Contreras: No Duff is a long-man. He's an extended inning guy, which means the days we need a spot-starter or if we have a double-header, Duff is there. Otherwise he's in the bullpen. If somebody gets knocked out in the second, third, or fourth inning or something like that, he comes in the game. He pitched really well this spring. His changeup has come along real nice. In fact, he's throwing his changeup better than his slider for strikes. We keep working on his delivery, keeping his head on-line, and he had a really great spring.

PinstripesPlus: On the subject of changeups, that was the key focus for George Kontos during the Instructional League and in the Hawaiian Winter League this offseason. How far has his changeup developed and do you think he's a breakout candidate in Double-A this year?

Contreras: He can easily be. He's got the changeup. He's got the slider, the curveball, the fastball. He's got his pitches, he's just got to make sure that he pitches and not tries to overpower everybody. When Georgey came from college he wanted to be a power guy and wanted to throw hard all of the time. What he's doing now is he's learning how to change speeds. His stuff is there. He's got great stuff, now he's got to use it as a pitcher and not just try and power through everybody. He's got the changeup, the slider, the curveball, both fastballs - now he's just got to pitch with it.

PinstripesPlus: Let's move to Alan Horne, a pitcher who also has been working tirelessly on his changeup. How did he look in Spring Training and do you think he can repeat what he did last year?

Contreras: Well I'll tell you what, the way I've seen him this spring with his changeup - he had more confidence in his changeup than his curveball. He was throwing it just so well - in fact he told us, 'now I know what you guys have been talking about. It took me a while but it finally clicked,' that he doesn't always have to try and strike people out. He can just get them out in front, get a little ground ball or a pop-up, and some swings-and-misses. He's got the changeup, it moves really well, and he's throwing it for strikes.

PinstripesPlus: Talk about Jeff Marquez. He had a very good year last season. What does he need to work on to be big league ready in your opinion?

Contreras: Marquez has got everything going for him. He's got some power, he's got sink with his two-seamer, he's got his curveball, and he's got the power changeup. Now he's just locating them all on a consistent basis without making mistakes, that's it. He throws strikes but now he's got to hit the location.

PinstripesPlus: The guy I absolutely love to watch pitch is David Robertson, who seemed to me to have a great Spring Training. Did you think he had a good spring?

Contreras: Oh he's awesome. It's amazing, these hitters don't see him. He's got a lot of life with his fastball, he's got a big plus curveball, and he's developing his changeup. From what I understand from [the early season reports] he's making it look easy. Here's a kid who, every level up until now he has just dominated. He pitched pretty easy [in his first outing] and we'll see what happens. He's got what it takes, no doubt. He's hard to see, he's got a lot of life with his fastball, and a big league plus curveball, so it's all clicking for him.

PinstripesPlus: You were talking about throwing strikes and one of the first guys that comes to mind is Eric Wordekemper. What did you see from him in Spring Training and how has his splitter developed?

Contreras: Well that's what is making the difference for Wordekemper, the development of that splitter in Arizona. It's biting really well. He had a good Arizona Fall League, put up some good numbers there. Last year he did it mostly with good command of his fastball and slider, and now that he has his split, with that great fastball-slider command, he should have a great year.

PinstripesPlus: Phil Coke had some solid seasons in Tampa the past two years but he looked so much better in Spring Training. Is the development of his breaking ball the big difference maker?

Contreras: That's the difference, that breaking ball is going to make him a big league pitcher. He can pitch with his average fastball, he can sink it, he can command it, he goes inside to right-handers really well, he's got the changeup he can throw for strikes, he's got the split he can throw for strikes, and now he's got the breaking ball he can use to face left-handers that he can sweep away or back-door it on the right-handers. If he can continue to do that, we've got another major league pitcher.

PinstripesPlus: I know he's in Extended Spring Training right now, but I'd like you comment on Manny Barreda. Talk about his development and what did you see from him in Spring Training?

Contreras: Manny's got some arm strength and Manny's developed the changeup. He can throw his changeup, which is great. Now what we're working on is his slider. He was in between a slurvy type of breaking ball like [Zach] McAllister had a couple of years ago. Now he's working on that slider to have that third pitch. He's a young kid, must be 18 or 19, who is out of high school last year who has got great angle, he throws hard with his fastball, he's got a great changeup with life and he's not afraid to use it, and now he's working on the slider. That's where Manny stands right now and he'll be working here [in Tampa] and if all goes well maybe he'll be in Staten Island by June.

PinstripesPlus: A guy who was on the map a couple of years ago, Francisco Castillo, had the arm surgery last year. Have you seen the zip on his fastball yet?

Contreras: It's coming along really well. Frankie's had some nice bullpens. He has not gotten into any games or any live batting practices yet, so as long as he continues to gain his arm strength - he's throwing the ball well. His arm slot is much better now than when he first signed, so he's using his whole upper-body instead of just using his arm when throwing the baseball. I think Frankie is going to do well once he gets himself going, starts facing some hitters and gaining more arm strength. We'll see what happens.

PinstripesPlus: Adam Olbrychowski has got the power arm, but what have you seen from him in the development of his secondary pitches? Do you like what you see so far?

Contreras: Yes. I believe the secondary pitches are there. I saw a good curveball, I saw some nice sliders, and I saw some good changeups. What it is with him is his delivery. He worked real hard on his mechanics this past winter and he kept doing it when he reported early in camp, and he's throwing strikes with his stuff now. I'm very happy with Olbrychowski, things are starting to click for him. He throws his offspeed for strikes and his delivery is allowing him to throw strikes.

PinstripesPlus: On the subject of throwing strikes, can Daniel McCutchen come back this season and have another year like last season?

Contreras: I believe McCutchen has a chance to pitch in the big leagues this year. He's got a plus arm, he's got life with his fastball, he's got a quality big league curveball, and he's got a quality big league changeup. He's a tremendous athlete. He holds runners, he fields his position well, and I believe if one day the big league club is going to need someone - it doesn't matter if it's going to be a starter or a reliever - he's a name we have. We've got a lot of guys in Triple-A ball but here's a kid that can do it from Double-A also.

PinstripesPlus: Scott Patterson had such a good spring in big league camp, what does he need to do in Triple-A to make that next step up?

Contreras: He didn't have a good spring, he had a tremendous spring. He just needs a little bit more experience. He pitched in Double-A last year and he had a tremendous spring, but he's got to get a little bit more time in Triple-A to show he can get Triple-A batters out, that he can do it on a back-to-back basis, that he can pitch today, have the day off tomorrow and then pitch the next day, and just not pitch every three or four days like he did in major league camp. He's got to prove that Joe [Girardi] can depend on him today, tomorrow, maybe even three days in a row, or two days out of three or three days out of five. That's something that he'll be working on.

PinstripesPlus: Have you seen Manny Banuelos yet, and if so, what can you tell us about him?

Contreras: I've seen him in bullpens. He did fastball-changeups and now he'll mix in his curveball. He'll throw BP's and then we'll get him into [Extended Spring Training] games in the second week. His delivery looks good, his arm action looks good, so we'll see how it goes.

PinstripesPlus: A lot of people were surprised that Chase Wright is back in Double-A. What was the reason for that?

Contreras: Chase had a tremendous spring. His breaking ball has become a quality breaking ball, he's gaining some arm strength again, he's throwing strikes, his changeup is there, and left-handers are giving on his breaking ball. That's very important for Chase, that left-handers give on his breaking ball, that they don't feel comfortable because he's got that nice angle out there - that three-quarter low - and if he can throw his breaking ball from there, and throw it for strikes, that gives him the pitch that he did not have last year. It was all numbers, though. He pitched well, but there's probably a few guys who could be pitching in Triple-A right now but because of numbers they're pitching in Double-A. Guys like Steven Jackson and Michael Gardner could pitch higher, but we've got so many guys. As long as they keep pitching, that's all that matters.

PinstripesPlus: Kevin Whelan has been dealing with the sore shoulder, where is he right now?

Contreras: Kevin is throwing bullpens. [Last Thursday] is the best I've ever seen him pitch. What he's doing is he has developed his delivery with a lot of dry-work and his mechanics are really good. In [that] bullpen it was the best I've seen him since we got him. The slider is very good, now it's just the command of his pitches. He did a tremendous job of commanding his pitches in his bullpen.

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\r\nPinstripesPlus.com: Talk about Mike Dunn. He had the great year in Charleston last year. How did he look in Spring Training and are you encouraged with his development?
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\r\nNardi Contreras: Yes, Michael Dunn is learning how to pitch. He's got good stuff. He's got both fastballs, he's got some power, he's got some sink to his fastball, he's got the hard slider, and he has developed the changeup. Now it's just learning how to pitch. He doesn't have that much experience underneath his belt and that's what he's going to be getting. He did well at the level he was at last year in his first true year that he's pitched. Now this is year two and it's a little bit better competition so he's going to have to learn how to pitch more.
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\r\nPinstripesPlus: Talk about Grant Duff. Is the plan to stick with him as a starting pitcher or is he moving to the bullpen?
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\r\nContreras: No Duff is a long-man. He's an extended inning guy, which means the days we need a spot-starter or if we have a double-header, Duff is there. Otherwise he's in the bullpen. If somebody gets knocked out in the second, third, or fourth inning or something like that, he comes in the game. He pitched really well this spring. His changeup has come along real nice. In fact, he's throwing his changeup better than his slider for strikes. We keep working on his delivery, keeping his head on-line, and he had a really great spring.
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\r\nPinstripesPlus: On the subject of changeups, that was the key focus for George Kontos during the Instructional League and in the Hawaiian Winter League this offseason. How far has his changeup developed and do you think he's a breakout candidate in Double-A this year?
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\r\nContreras: He can easily be. He's got the changeup. He's got the slider, the curveball, the fastball. He's got his pitches, he's just got to make sure that he pitches and not tries to overpower everybody. When Georgey came from college he wanted to be a power guy and wanted to throw hard all of the time. What he's doing now is he's learning how to change speeds. His stuff is there. He's got great stuff, now he's got to use it as a pitcher and not just try and power through everybody. He's got the changeup, the slider, the curveball, both fastballs - now he's just got to pitch with it.
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\r\nPinstripesPlus: Let's move to Alan Horne, a pitcher who also has been working tirelessly on his changeup. How did he look in Spring Training and do you think he can repeat what he did last year?
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\r\nContreras: Well I'll tell you what, the way I've seen him this spring with his changeup - he had more confidence in his changeup than his curveball. He was throwing it just so well - in fact he told us, 'now I know what you guys have been talking about. It took me a while but it finally clicked,' that he doesn't always have to try and strike people out. He can just get them out in front, get a little ground ball or a pop-up, and some swings-and-misses. He's got the changeup, it moves really well, and he's throwing it for strikes.
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\r\nPinstripesPlus: Talk about Jeff Marquez. He had a very good year last season. What does he need to work on to be big league ready in your opinion?
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\r\nContreras: Marquez has got everything going for him. He's got some power, he's got sink with his two-seamer, he's got his curveball, and he's got the power changeup. Now he's just locating them all on a consistent basis without making mistakes, that's it. He throws strikes but now he's got to hit the location.
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\r\nPinstripesPlus: The guy I absolutely love to watch pitch is David Robertson, who seemed to me to have a great Spring Training. Did you think he had a good spring?
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\r\nContreras: Oh he's awesome. It's amazing, these hitters don't see him. He's got a lot of life with his fastball, he's got a big plus curveball, and he's developing his changeup. From what I understand from [the early season reports] he's making it look easy. Here's a kid who, every level up until now he has just dominated. He pitched pretty easy [in his first outing] and we'll see what happens. He's got what it takes, no doubt. He's hard to see, he's got a lot of life with his fastball, and a big league plus curveball, so it's all clicking for him.
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\r\nPinstripesPlus: You were talking about throwing strikes and one of the first guys that comes to mind is Eric Wordekemper. What did you see from him in Spring Training and how has his splitter developed?
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\r\nContreras: Well that's what is making the difference for Wordekemper, the development of that splitter in Arizona. It's biting really well. He had a good Arizona Fall League, put up some good numbers there. Last year he did it mostly with good command of his fastball and slider, and now that he has his split, with that great fastball-slider command, he should have a great year.
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\r\nPinstripesPlus: Phil Coke had some solid seasons in Tampa the past two years but he looked so much better in Spring Training. Is the development of his breaking ball the big difference maker?
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\r\nContreras: That's the difference, that breaking ball is going to make him a big league pitcher. He can pitch with his average fastball, he can sink it, he can command it, he goes inside to right-handers really well, he's got the changeup he can throw for strikes, he's got the split he can throw for strikes, and now he's got the breaking ball he can use to face left-handers that he can sweep away or back-door it on the right-handers. If he can continue to do that, we've got another major league pitcher.
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\r\nPinstripesPlus: I know he's in Extended Spring Training right now, but I'd like you comment on Manny Barreda. Talk about his development and what did you see from him in Spring Training?
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\r\nContreras: Manny's got some arm strength and Manny's developed the changeup. He can throw his changeup, which is great. Now what we're working on is his slider. He was in between a slurvy type of breaking ball like [Zach] McAllister had a couple of years ago. Now he's working on that slider to have that third pitch. He's a young kid, must be 18 or 19, who is out of high school last year who has got great angle, he throws hard with his fastball, he's got a great changeup with life and he's not afraid to use it, and now he's working on the slider. That's where Manny stands right now and he'll be working here [in Tampa] and if all goes well maybe he'll be in Staten Island by June.
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\r\nPinstripesPlus: A guy who was on the map a couple of years ago, Francisco Castillo, had the arm surgery last year. Have you seen the zip on his fastball yet?
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\r\nContreras: It's coming along really well. Frankie's had some nice bullpens. He has not gotten into any games or any live batting practices yet, so as long as he continues to gain his arm strength - he's throwing the ball well. His arm slot is much better now than when he first signed, so he's using his whole upper-body instead of just using his arm when throwing the baseball. I think Frankie is going to do well once he gets himself going, starts facing some hitters and gaining more arm strength. We'll see what happens.
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\r\nPinstripesPlus: Adam Olbrychowski has got the power arm, but what have you seen from him in the development of his secondary pitches? Do you like what you see so far?
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\r\nContreras: Yes. I believe the secondary pitches are there. I saw a good curveball, I saw some nice sliders, and I saw some good changeups. What it is with him is his delivery. He worked real hard on his mechanics this past winter and he kept doing it when he reported early in camp, and he's throwing strikes with his stuff now. I'm very happy with Olbrychowski, things are starting to click for him. He throws his offspeed for strikes and his delivery is allowing him to throw strikes.
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\r\nPinstripesPlus: On the subject of throwing strikes, can Daniel McCutchen come back this season and have another year like last season?
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\r\nContreras: I believe McCutchen has a chance to pitch in the big leagues this year. He's got a plus arm, he's got life with his fastball, he's got a quality big league curveball, and he's got a quality big league changeup. He's a tremendous athlete. He holds runners, he fields his position well, and I believe if one day the big league club is going to need someone - it doesn't matter if it's going to be a starter or a reliever - he's a name we have. We've got a lot of guys in Triple-A ball but here's a kid that can do it from Double-A also.
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\r\nPinstripesPlus: Scott Patterson had such a good spring in big league camp, what does he need to do in Triple-A to make that next step up?
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\r\nContreras: He didn't have a good spring, he had a tremendous spring. He just needs a little bit more experience. He pitched in Double-A last year and he had a tremendous spring, but he's got to get a little bit more time in Triple-A to show he can get Triple-A batters out, that he can do it on a back-to-back basis, that he can pitch today, have the day off tomorrow and then pitch the next day, and just not pitch every three or four days like he did in major league camp. He's got to prove that Joe [Girardi] can depend on him today, tomorrow, maybe even three days in a row, or two days out of three or three days out of five. That's something that he'll be working on.
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\r\nPinstripesPlus: Have you seen Manny Banuelos yet, and if so, what can you tell us about him?
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\r\nContreras: I've seen him in bullpens. He did fastball-changeups and now he'll mix in his curveball. He'll throw BP's and then we'll get him into [Extended Spring Training] games in the second week. His delivery looks good, his arm action looks good, so we'll see how it goes.
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\r\nPinstripesPlus: A lot of people were surprised that Chase Wright is back in Double-A. What was the reason for that?
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\r\nContreras: Chase had a tremendous spring. His breaking ball has become a quality breaking ball, he's gaining some arm strength again, he's throwing strikes, his changeup is there, and left-handers are giving on his breaking ball. That's very important for Chase, that left-handers give on his breaking ball, that they don't feel comfortable because he's got that nice angle out there - that three-quarter low - and if he can throw his breaking ball from there, and throw it for strikes, that gives him the pitch that he did not have last year. It was all numbers, though. He pitched well, but there's probably a few guys who could be pitching in Triple-A right now but because of numbers they're pitching in Double-A. Guys like Steven Jackson and Michael Gardner could pitch higher, but we've got so many guys. As long as they keep pitching, that's all that matters.
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\r\nPinstripesPlus: Kevin Whelan has been dealing with the sore shoulder, where is he right now?
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\r\nContreras: Kevin is throwing bullpens. [Last Thursday] is the best I've ever seen him pitch. What he's doing is he has developed his delivery with a lot of dry-work and his mechanics are really good. In [that] bullpen it was the best I've seen him since we got him. The slider is very good, now it's just the command of his pitches. He did a tremendous job of commanding his pitches in his bullpen.
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