Q&A with Damon Oppenheimer

With the official signing deadline passed for the 2008 MLB Draft, PinstripesPlus checks in with Yankees Vice President of Scouting Damon Oppenheimer for a Q&A session to find out what happened with the Gerrit Cole negotiations, if the Bleich under-slot bonus was due to an injury, if not signing two of their top three picks is a worrisome trend, and much, much more!

PinstripesPlus.com: Obviously the biggest story this year is Gerrit Cole opting for college and some critics have insisted this was something you and your staff should have known from the get-go, if he was leaning towards going to college or not before selecting him with your first round pick. Did you have any indication that signing wasn't a possibility before you selected him or did this come as a surprise?

Damon Oppenheimer: To say that there was a possibility he wasn't going to sign, that happens all the time. You've got to take chances with guys but we drafted Cole with the full intention of signing him. We knew it wasn't going to be easy but leading up to the draft we were led to believe by the family and Gerrit that he wanted to sign and especially with the Yankees, so that was the kicker for us. We really thought we were going to get the chance to sign him. Throughout the whole process we followed and respected everything they wanted us to do in handling the process of the negotiations and then in the end it didn't come down to a negotiation issue. I flew out to California to meet with the family fully intending to present the Yankees' proposal but when I got there Gerrit and [his] family opted not to even meet face-to-face and they made their decision not even listening to our presentation. So he turns down an opportunity to play for his dream team, to receive the scholarship paid in full, to receive professional pitching instruction and get the best care for his arm and health, and become an instant multi-millionaire. I'm obviously disappointed and I wasn't happy he elected not to sign. Even his adviser, Scott Boras, was surprised by their reluctance to not listen to the presentation and go to college without even hearing the offer. We upheld the scouting process and we took the best available player. And if I hadn't have taken the best available player the fans in New York would be mad too.

PinstripesPlus: So even with the way it all shook out, you don't regret drafting him?

Oppenheimer: I don't regret selecting him. I regret that elected not to sign with us. He doesn't even know how much money he was going to turn down because he and his family never elected to hear us and that's not the information we were led to believe going into the draft. We were not led to believe that at all.

PinstripesPlus: In years past you have recruited high-ceiling high school players to show them the benefits of going pro right away, like you did with bringing Carmen Angelini to Yankee Stadium last year before he signed. Did you and your staff employ any recruiting practices with Gerrit Cole to sway him to the professional side?

Oppenheimer: We did everything that we were told to do by the family. They wanted it to be a low pressure situation, handle it differently - I don't know how to put it. They wanted it to be low pressure, not us jumping on top of them. But we did do a lot of low-key things with him. We had phone dialogues, we had letters written by Alex Rodriguez, we had letters written by Phil Hughes and Ian Kennedy, [letters] by Nardi Contreras, Mark Newman, and myself, videos prepared by Chad Boling - we did everything that we could under the circumstances of how they wanted it done.

PinstripesPlus: What happened in the Scott Bittle negotiations?

Oppenheimer: We just could not come to terms overall and it didn't come down to financial issues.

PinstripesPlus: Let's get to Jeremy Bleich. Since you guys signed him for under-slot money, there's speculation out there that there is an injury involved. Is that the case? Is that why he was signed for under-slot?

Oppenheimer: No he's not injured right now. He had a period where he was shut down in the middle of the [college] season, no different than when Joba [Chamberlain] was a junior where he was shut down also. Brian [Cashman] did the negotiation with all of the information he had and this is what we ended up doing. He's down today and he's going to formally sign today. As soon as he's ready to pitch, he'll be pitching.

PinstripesPlus: If that's the case, some people will look at the under-slot bonus to him as a conservative pick then. Do you feel that way?

Oppenheimer: No. I guess everybody can have their own opinion on it and let them have it. We'll find out in the long-run. If Jeremy Bleich becomes a good starter in the big leagues from the left side - I don't know why anybody would think that's conservative to try and find a major league left-handed starter. We've been looking for that for a long time.

PinstripesPlus: Taking these three cases into account - two picks not signed and another signed for under slot money among your top three picks - and considering there were no million dollar bonuses paid out this year compared to the multiple ones each year over the last few seasons, some feel this is evident of a conservative approach in the draft. Do you feel that way and can you understand why may some feel that way?

Oppenheimer: Well I can understand because we didn't go out there and spend a boat-load of money. I think that's their definition of conservative. Had we gotten Cole signed, but the fact we drafted him and elected not to sign, takes us far from being conservative. I think we did everything we could to sign a high-end talent like Cole and in the end it came down to their decision. There was nothing we could do. When we tried to deal with logic it didn't work. In my opinion the draft is not conservative. Usually when you're conservative you're taking a bunch of college guys. I think we took a nice group of high school guys that are going to be good players. Evaluating a draft after [two months] it's not a very educated way of looking at drafts.

PinstripesPlus: How happy were you to sign Garrison Lassiter?

Oppenheimer: Between all of the guys we signed - some of those guys like Lassister, Marshall, Higashioka, and D.J. Mitchell, guys we were able to secure at the end - we're really happy about it. I think all of our staff did a really good job on getting us these kinds of guys. I think the fans are going to be really happy once they see what comes out of this thing in a few years.

PinstripesPlus: Talk about Lassiter specifically. What's the book on him?

PinstripesPlus: He's a left-handed hitting shortstop. He might end up playing a different position but right now he's a shortstop. He's a good sized kid and he can hit. He's a guy who hit in everything he did last summer, which included AFLAC [All-American Classic] and the East Coast Showcase. He was a high priority guy and a high-end guy. He committed to [the University of] North Carolina quick and I think scouts thought he was going to go to school. We think we've got a guy who's going to be a high-end bat, he's a good athlete, and he's a really solid defender. We think we're getting a high-end talent here.

PinstripesPlus: The fans have come to know Carmen Angelini's game. How would you compare Lassiter's game with Angelini's?

Oppenheimer: I would have to say Garrison's more of an advanced hitter and he's a stronger guy than Carmen is. Carmen is definitely a smoother defender, just a better defensive player, and there's a little more projection in the bat than there is with Garrison. I think you could say Garrison's strength is he's a little more offensive than Carmen at this stage.

PinstripesPlus: Of the guys you weren't able to sign - Chris Dwyer, Blake Monar, Sam Mende, Mykal Stokes, Ben McMahan, Creede Simpson, etc - which were you closest to signing?

Oppenheimer: Of all of those guys, early, early on we were close with Mende, but that fell apart real fast. He became really wishy-washy after we drafted him about wanting to play [professionally] and not wanting to play. The maturity level just didn't match up at this point with going out and playing professional baseball. We really had hoped to do something with Chris Dwyer but he couldn't pitch all summer. We couldn't see him because of the broken leg and that hurt our ability to evaluate him and give him the kind of money he was seeking. With Monar, we were really hoping Blake would come on and pitch well but his velocity actually went backwards a little bit. Quite a few times he pitched it was 79-84 MPH and at that point you're concerned with health and you have your concerns about what's going on with him and his velocity going backwards like that. I don't know you can necessarily say we were close on any of those guys. Mende was obviously the closest but it's not even something where you could say we almost signed him.

PinstripesPlus: Getting the draft picks back for Gerrit Cole and Scott Bittle next season, and with the possibility of adding some more picks in the draft next year, what would you say to the people who might use the fact you didn't sign your first two picks this year as pessimism for not signing your top picks again next year?

Oppenheimer: I think there's a whole lot of reason for optimism next year. We're definitely going to have a first and a second round pick next year, no matter what happens. Even if Brian [Cashman] and the group in New York were to go out and sign two Type A free agents. If they decided they wanted to do that we're still going to have a pick in the first round and in the second round. To me that's a great combination, that we can strengthen ourselves at the big league level and not make it damper what we're doing in the draft by taking away draft picks. To me I think we're sitting in a great position and if we elected to use all of the draft picks next year I think we're going to be sitting very pretty with continuing to stockpile talent and put it into the system.

PinstripesPlus: On that note, you think that this year with not signing Cole or Bittle was more of a fluke thing? Or is this a developing trend where you're unable to sign some of your top picks?

Oppenheimer: Oh God no. We're going to continue to try and put the best talent into the system. That's the thing that I don't think people realize - you can't control what the people you're drafting what their decisions are. You have to present them with all of the facts, try to present them with every aspect of what's logical. Going to back to Cole, everything we had to offer was made to lead us to believe going into the draft was everything he wanted. This happens, people change their minds and do things that you can't understand. Patrick, this one I can't understand. We're going to continue to do everything we can and we did everything we could to try and sign this guy. We did everything we were allowed to do with the Bittle situation too. Hopefully moving forward this won't happen again and we'll be on-line to continue to get the Austin Jacksons, the Mark Melancons, and Joba Chamberlains, [heck] David Roberstons, of the world. I would hope there's some remembrance of what's been going on. This is one of those situations that's not going to happen again. The history of the draft shows that it doesn't happen.

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\r\nDamon Oppenheimer: To say that there was a possibility he wasn't going to sign, that happens all the time. You've got to take chances with guys but we drafted Cole with the full intention of signing him. We knew it wasn't going to be easy but leading up to the draft we were led to believe by the family and Gerrit that he wanted to sign and especially with the Yankees, so that was the kicker for us. We really thought we were going to get the chance to sign him. Throughout the whole process we followed and respected everything they wanted us to do in handling the process of the negotiations and then in the end it didn't come down to a negotiation issue. I flew out to California to meet with the family fully intending to present the Yankees' proposal but when I got there Gerrit and [his] family opted not to even meet face-to-face and they made their decision not even listening to our presentation. So he turns down an opportunity to play for his dream team, to receive the scholarship paid in full, to receive professional pitching instruction and get the best care for his arm and health, and become an instant multi-millionaire. I'm obviously disappointed and I wasn't happy he elected not to sign. Even his adviser, Scott Boras, was surprised by their reluctance to not listen to the presentation and go to college without even hearing the offer. We upheld the scouting process and we took the best available player. And if I hadn't have taken the best available player the fans in New York would be mad too.
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\r\nPinstripesPlus: So even with the way it all shook out, you don't regret drafting him?
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\r\nOppenheimer: I don't regret selecting him. I regret that elected not to sign with us. He doesn't even know how much money he was going to turn down because he and his family never elected to hear us and that's not the information we were led to believe going into the draft. We were not led to believe that at all.
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\r\nPinstripesPlus: In years past you have recruited high-ceiling high school players to show them the benefits of going pro right away, like you did with bringing Carmen Angelini to Yankee Stadium last year before he signed. Did you and your staff employ any recruiting practices with Gerrit Cole to sway him to the professional side?
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\r\nOppenheimer: We did everything that we were told to do by the family. They wanted it to be a low pressure situation, handle it differently - I don't know how to put it. They wanted it to be low pressure, not us jumping on top of them. But we did do a lot of low-key things with him. We had phone dialogues, we had letters written by Alex Rodriguez, we had letters written by Phil Hughes and Ian Kennedy, [letters] by Nardi Contreras, Mark Newman, and myself, videos prepared by Chad Boling - we did everything that we could under the circumstances of how they wanted it done.
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\r\nPinstripesPlus: What happened in the Scott Bittle negotiations?
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\r\nOppenheimer: We just could not come to terms overall and it didn't come down to financial issues.
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\r\nPinstripesPlus: Let's get to Jeremy Bleich. Since you guys signed him for under-slot money, there's speculation out there that there is an injury involved. Is that the case? Is that why he was signed for under-slot?
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\r\nOppenheimer: No he's not injured right now. He had a period where he was shut down in the middle of the [college] season, no different than when Joba [Chamberlain] was a junior where he was shut down also. Brian [Cashman] did the negotiation with all of the information he had and this is what we ended up doing. He's down today and he's going to formally sign today. As soon as he's ready to pitch, he'll be pitching.
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\r\nPinstripesPlus: If that's the case, some people will look at the under-slot bonus to him as a conservative pick then. Do you feel that way?
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\r\nOppenheimer: No. I guess everybody can have their own opinion on it and let them have it. We'll find out in the long-run. If Jeremy Bleich becomes a good starter in the big leagues from the left side - I don't know why anybody would think that's conservative to try and find a major league left-handed starter. We've been looking for that for a long time.
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\r\nPinstripesPlus: Taking these three cases into account - two picks not signed and another signed for under slot money among your top three picks - and considering there were no million dollar bonuses paid out this year compared to the multiple ones each year over the last few seasons, some feel this is evident of a conservative approach in the draft. Do you feel that way and can you understand why may some feel that way?
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\r\nOppenheimer: Well I can understand because we didn't go out there and spend a boat-load of money. I think that's their definition of conservative. Had we gotten Cole signed, but the fact we drafted him and elected not to sign, takes us far from being conservative. I think we did everything we could to sign a high-end talent like Cole and in the end it came down to their decision. There was nothing we could do. When we tried to deal with logic it didn't work. In my opinion the draft is not conservative. Usually when you're conservative you're taking a bunch of college guys. I think we took a nice group of high school guys that are going to be good players. Evaluating a draft after [two months] it's not a very educated way of looking at drafts.
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\r\nPinstripesPlus: How happy were you to sign Garrison Lassiter?
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\r\nOppenheimer: Between all of the guys we signed - some of those guys like Lassister, Marshall, Higashioka, and D.J. Mitchell, guys we were able to secure at the end - we're really happy about it. I think all of our staff did a really good job on getting us these kinds of guys. I think the fans are going to be really happy once they see what comes out of this thing in a few years.
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\r\nPinstripesPlus: Talk about Lassiter specifically. What's the book on him?
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\r\nPinstripesPlus: He's a left-handed hitting shortstop. He might end up playing a different position but right now he's a shortstop. He's a good sized kid and he can hit. He's a guy who hit in everything he did last summer, which included AFLAC [All-American Classic] and the East Coast Showcase. He was a high priority guy and a high-end guy. He committed to [the University of] North Carolina quick and I think scouts thought he was going to go to school. We think we've got a guy who's going to be a high-end bat, he's a good athlete, and he's a really solid defender. We think we're getting a high-end talent here.
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\r\nPinstripesPlus: The fans have come to know Carmen Angelini's game. How would you compare Lassiter's game with Angelini's?
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\r\nOppenheimer: I would have to say Garrison's more of an advanced hitter and he's a stronger guy than Carmen is. Carmen is definitely a smoother defender, just a better defensive player, and there's a little more projection in the bat than there is with Garrison. I think you could say Garrison's strength is he's a little more offensive than Carmen at this stage.
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\r\nPinstripesPlus: Of the guys you weren't able to sign - Chris Dwyer, Blake Monar, Sam Mende, Mykal Stokes, Ben McMahan, Creede Simpson, etc - which were you closest to signing?
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\r\nOppenheimer: Of all of those guys, early, early on we were close with Mende, but that fell apart real fast. He became really wishy-washy after we drafted him about wanting to play [professionally] and not wanting to play. The maturity level just didn't match up at this point with going out and playing professional baseball. We really had hoped to do something with Chris Dwyer but he couldn't pitch all summer. We couldn't see him because of the broken leg and that hurt our ability to evaluate him and give him the kind of money he was seeking. With Monar, we were really hoping Blake would come on and pitch well but his velocity actually went backwards a little bit. Quite a few times he pitched it was 79-84 MPH and at that point you're concerned with health and you have your concerns about what's going on with him and his velocity going backwards like that. I don't know you can necessarily say we were close on any of those guys. Mende was obviously the closest but it's not even something where you could say we almost signed him.
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\r\nPinstripesPlus: Getting the draft picks back for Gerrit Cole and Scott Bittle next season, and with the possibility of adding some more picks in the draft next year, what would you say to the people who might use the fact you didn't sign your first two picks this year as pessimism for not signing your top picks again next year?
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\r\nOppenheimer: I think there's a whole lot of reason for optimism next year. We're definitely going to have a first and a second round pick next year, no matter what happens. Even if Brian [Cashman] and the group in New York were to go out and sign two Type A free agents. If they decided they wanted to do that we're still going to have a pick in the first round and in the second round. To me that's a great combination, that we can strengthen ourselves at the big league level and not make it damper what we're doing in the draft by taking away draft picks. To me I think we're sitting in a great position and if we elected to use all of the draft picks next year I think we're going to be sitting very pretty with continuing to stockpile talent and put it into the system.
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\r\nPinstripesPlus: On that note, you think that this year with not signing Cole or Bittle was more of a fluke thing? Or is this a developing trend where you're unable to sign some of your top picks?
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\r\nOppenheimer: Oh God no. We're going to continue to try and put the best talent into the system. That's the thing that I don't think people realize - you can't control what the people you're drafting what their decisions are. You have to present them with all of the facts, try to present them with every aspect of what's logical. Going to back to Cole, everything we had to offer was made to lead us to believe going into the draft was everything he wanted. This happens, people change their minds and do things that you can't understand. Patrick, this one I can't understand. We're going to continue to do everything we can and we did everything we could to try and sign this guy. We did everything we were allowed to do with the Bittle situation too. Hopefully moving forward this won't happen again and we'll be on-line to continue to get the Austin Jacksons, the Mark Melancons, and Joba Chamberlains, [heck] David Roberstons, of the world. I would hope there's some remembrance of what's been going on. This is one of those situations that's not going to happen again. The history of the draft shows that it doesn't happen.
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