Scouting Yankees Prospect #23:Carmen Angelini

The Yankees drafted shortstop Carmen Angelini in the tenth round of the 2007 MLB Draft out of Barbe High School in Louisiana and signed him for first round money. He went directly to the South Atlantic League for his debut season in 2008 and while his ultimate numbers weren't great, it was a solid indoctrination for him into the professional game.

Vital Statistics:
Name: Carmen Angelini
Position: Shortstop
DOB: September 22, 1988
Height: 6'1"
Weight: 185
Bats: Right
Throws: Right

"I think things went pretty good," Angelini said of his debut season. "It was a lot different for me, starting in a full season in the Sally League, so that was a big adjustment for me; the number of games, the competition, I'm definitely not used to that.

"That was a good experience for my first season, starting off in the South Atlantic League and being exposed to that."

A two-way player who the Yankees felt was mature enough to handle being thrown right into the proverbial fire of the long-season leagues in his first professional season, Angelini wound up hitting just .236 with four home runs and committed 42 errors with the Charleston Riverdogs.

"I definitely learned a lot this season. As far as the numbers go I don't think they're very impressive to the eyes. Like I said though, starting off in a full season league right out of high school, I definitely learned a lot.

"That's what I'm going to take into next year. I've got 138 professional games of experience under my belt and that's more games than I played altogether in high school. I learned a lot and I'm definitely more prepared for next year."

Considering the lack of immediate success he has had thus far, it would be easy for all parties involved to now admit it might have been a mistake to have him skip the rookie minor league levels.

However, while both Angelini and the Yankees had anticipated a better overall showing in his first season, both sides knew before the season began that mentally he was prepared to handle the worst case scenario.

"I think that's one of the reasons I started in Charleston, not so much the fact that I could play there - I think they knew that because I was totally confident in myself starting in a full-season league - I can't answer for them ultimately, but mentally I'd be able to handle it," said Angelini.

"I'm a very mature for my age so I think that plays a big role in baseball, being able to handle the mental strain of each and everyday."

His maturity has already been put to the test dealing with failure in his first season and his manager believes it is his mental approach that makes his seemingly bad season to numbers-crunchers an actual productive year overall.

"I don't think he has the type of personality that can be overwhelmed," said Charleston Riverdogs manager Torre Tyson. "I think there definitely were times where he was tested and challenged mentally to stay strong. He did a good job.

"There were only two instances that I saw during the year, a couple of stretches where I was like 'oh boy, it's starting to get to him'. And that's pretty impressive for 140 games that I only saw it twice. I'm not worried about him at all.

"I think it's a huge step developmentally. I like to see these big prospects - it's almost nice to see them fail to some extent a low level so that they learn how to deal with it so we don't have any situations with players leaving teams when they get to Double-A and things don't work out like they thought they would. It just makes them stronger people."

Realizing that success only comes with failure, while he knows he now has some critics with the numbers he posted in his first season, Angelini firmly believes he is a much better player today than he was before he struggled.

"To someone just looking at stats they would say this guy is a fluke, or this guy is no good," said Angelini. "I would say I'm a better prospect now because I have 140 professional games under my belt, I've got 500 professional at-bats, and it's that knowledge you take away from enduring that experience of your first professional season."

With the statistics he did post, however, the debate has become a heated one as to how to handle his immediate developmental track. Some believe he should repeat the South Atlantic League in 2009 and others believe he is ready to advance despite the numbers.

Angelini himself sees both sides of the argument. And while he is prepared to deal with either route, the Louisiana native wants to continue to be challenged.

"That's not my decision to make but I'm going to be prepared for anything," he said of possibly repeating the low-A level. "I think I'm definitely capable of playing at a higher level. I wouldn't take it in a negative way at all.

"The minor leagues are about development. If that's what it takes for me to continually get better, that's what I'll do. I'll do whatever it takes to make it to the big leagues. I wouldn't take it as a negative thing."

"In the end you want to be in the big leagues and succeed so I don't think playing at a lower level right now would help me just so I can put up good numbers and succeed."

Year

Team

AVG

AB

2B

HR

RBI

R

SB

BB

SO

OBP

SLG

2008

Charleston

.236

474

14

4

46

64

17

42

99

.302

.295

2007

GCL Yankees

.000

1

0

0

0

0

0

0

1

.000

.000



Batting and Power. His 2008 numbers notwithstanding, Angelini is a good hitter overall. He has a very mature up-the-middle-to-opposite-field approach, spraying line-drives from gap to gap and using the entire field. While his swing can run a little long on occasion, he is a better contact hitter than his rather high strikeout totals would suggest. Angelini, who participated in offseason Instructional League camps and reported for Spring Training very early, never really had an offseason last year to get stronger and physically he was a little behind. He doesn't have much power right now, but he does have a body that could easily add some muscle mass over the years and that gives him decent power potential.

Base Running and Speed. Like he is in most phases of the game, Angelini is solid in the running game. He's not a great base stealing threat, but he does have good quickness, solid athleticism, and natural baseball instincts to be a perennial 20+ stolen base threat in the professional ranks.

Defense. Forget Angelini's 42 errors in Charleston last season - he is a much, much better defensive player than the numbers would indicate. He is very athletic and shows great range in the field. He also boasts a very strong arm for a shortstop with a quick release, one who can make all the necessary throws. But perhaps his greatest strength is his head's up play-making abilities, innately knowing every situation in the game. Where he could stand to improve is his on-the-field leadership, but with his mental makeup and charisma that should easily come with more experience.

Projection. Throw his professional debut season numbers out - Angelini is demonstratively better than his 2008 statistics reveal. Even with his sub-par numbers, he is still one of the most confident players in the organization and his strong mental makeup should allow him to prove last season's performance was an anomaly. He doesn't allow bad plays in the field to affect him in the batter's box and he doesn't take bad at-bats into the field. He has a solid bat, a great glove, a tremendous work ethic, and the kind of mental makeup that is a trademark of winning players. He also doesn't get rattled either offensively or defensively, and he loves challenges. His lone weakness is a lack of home run power and the whole package has many scouts believing he is the closest thing to Derek Jeter in the Yankees farm system.

ETA. 2012. While all signs point towards him repeating the South Atlantic League, where he starts the 2009 season will come right down to the wire. Despite his numbers this past season, he is still a good candidate to advance to the Florida State League.

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\r\n \r\n\r\nVital Statistics:
\r\nName: Carmen Angelini
\r\nPosition: Shortstop
\r\nDOB: September 22, 1988
\r\nHeight: 6'1\"
\r\nWeight: 185
\r\nBats: Right
\r\nThrows: Right
\r\n
\r\n\"I think things went pretty good,\" Angelini said of his debut season. \"It was a lot different for me, starting in a full season in the Sally League, so that was a big adjustment for me; the number of games, the competition, I'm definitely not used to that.
\r\n
\r\n\"That was a good experience for my first season, starting off in the South Atlantic League and being exposed to that.\"
\r\n
\r\nA two-way player who the Yankees felt was mature enough to handle being thrown right into the proverbial fire of the long-season leagues in his first professional season, Angelini wound up hitting just .236 with four home runs and committed 42 errors with the Charleston Riverdogs.
\r\n
\r\n\"I definitely learned a lot this season. As far as the numbers go I don't think they're very impressive to the eyes. Like I said though, starting off in a full season league right out of high school, I definitely learned a lot.
\r\n
\r\n\"That's what I'm going to take into next year. I've got 138 professional games of experience under my belt and that's more games than I played altogether in high school. I learned a lot and I'm definitely more prepared for next year.\"
\r\n
\r\nConsidering the lack of immediate success he has had thus far, it would be easy for all parties involved to now admit it might have been a mistake to have him skip the rookie minor league levels.
\r\n
\r\nHowever, while both Angelini and the Yankees had anticipated a better overall showing in his first season, both sides knew before the season began that mentally he was prepared to handle the worst case scenario.
\r\n
\r\n\"I think that's one of the reasons I started in Charleston, not so much the fact that I could play there - I think they knew that because I was totally confident in myself starting in a full-season league - I can't answer for them ultimately, but mentally I'd be able to handle it,\" said Angelini.
\r\n
\r\n\"I'm a very mature for my age so I think that plays a big role in baseball, being able to handle the mental strain of each and everyday.\"
\r\n
\r\nHis maturity has already been put to the test dealing with failure in his first season and his manager believes it is his mental approach that makes his seemingly bad season to numbers-crunchers an actual productive year overall.
\r\n
\r\n\"I don't think he has the type of personality that can be overwhelmed,\" said Charleston Riverdogs manager Torre Tyson. \"I think there definitely were times where he was tested and challenged mentally to stay strong. He did a good job.
\r\n
\r\n\"There were only two instances that I saw during the year, a couple of stretches where I was like 'oh boy, it's starting to get to him'. And that's pretty impressive for 140 games that I only saw it twice. I'm not worried about him at all.
\r\n
\r\n\"I think it's a huge step developmentally. I like to see these big prospects - it's almost nice to see them fail to some extent a low level so that they learn how to deal with it so we don't have any situations with players leaving teams when they get to Double-A and things don't work out like they thought they would. It just makes them stronger people.\"
\r\n
\r\nRealizing that success only comes with failure, while he knows he now has some critics with the numbers he posted in his first season, Angelini firmly believes he is a much better player today than he was before he struggled.
\r\n
\r\n\"To someone just looking at stats they would say this guy is a fluke, or this guy is no good,\" said Angelini. \"I would say I'm a better prospect now because I have 140 professional games under my belt, I've got 500 professional at-bats, and it's that knowledge you take away from enduring that experience of your first professional season.\"
\r\n
\r\nWith the statistics he did post, however, the debate has become a heated one as to how to handle his immediate developmental track. Some believe he should repeat the South Atlantic League in 2009 and others believe he is ready to advance despite the numbers.
\r\n
\r\nAngelini himself sees both sides of the argument. And while he is prepared to deal with either route, the Louisiana native wants to continue to be challenged.
\r\n
\r\n\"That's not my decision to make but I'm going to be prepared for anything,\" he said of possibly repeating the low-A level. \"I think I'm definitely capable of playing at a higher level. I wouldn't take it in a negative way at all.
\r\n
\r\n\"The minor leagues are about development. If that's what it takes for me to continually get better, that's what I'll do. I'll do whatever it takes to make it to the big leagues. I wouldn't take it as a negative thing.\"
\r\n
\r\n\"In the end you want to be in the big leagues and succeed so I don't think playing at a lower level right now would help me just so I can put up good numbers and succeed.\"
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\r\n 2B

\r\n

\r\n HR

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\r\n RBI

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\r\n R

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\r\n 2008

\r\n

\r\n Charleston

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\r\n .236

\r\n

\r\n 474

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\r\n 14

\r\n

\r\n 4

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\r\n 46

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\r\n 64

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\r\n 42

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\r\n .302

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\r\n .295

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\r\n .000

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\r\n
\r\nBatting and Power. His 2008 numbers notwithstanding, Angelini is a good hitter overall. He has a very mature up-the-middle-to-opposite-field approach, spraying line-drives from gap to gap and using the entire field. While his swing can run a little long on occasion, he is a better contact hitter than his rather high strikeout totals would suggest. Angelini, who participated in offseason Instructional League camps and reported for Spring Training very early, never really had an offseason last year to get stronger and physically he was a little behind. He doesn't have much power right now, but he does have a body that could easily add some muscle mass over the years and that gives him decent power potential.
\r\n
\r\nBase Running and Speed. Like he is in most phases of the game, Angelini is solid in the running game. He's not a great base stealing threat, but he does have good quickness, solid athleticism, and natural baseball instincts to be a perennial 20+ stolen base threat in the professional ranks.
\r\n
\r\nDefense. Forget Angelini's 42 errors in Charleston last season - he is a much, much better defensive player than the numbers would indicate. He is very athletic and shows great range in the field. He also boasts a very strong arm for a shortstop with a quick release, one who can make all the necessary throws. But perhaps his greatest strength is his head's up play-making abilities, innately knowing every situation in the game. Where he could stand to improve is his on-the-field leadership, but with his mental makeup and charisma that should easily come with more experience.
\r\n
\r\nProjection. Throw his professional debut season numbers out - Angelini is demonstratively better than his 2008 statistics reveal. Even with his sub-par numbers, he is still one of the most confident players in the organization and his strong mental makeup should allow him to prove last season's performance was an anomaly. He doesn't allow bad plays in the field to affect him in the batter's box and he doesn't take bad at-bats into the field. He has a solid bat, a great glove, a tremendous work ethic, and the kind of mental makeup that is a trademark of winning players. He also doesn't get rattled either offensively or defensively, and he loves challenges. His lone weakness is a lack of home run power and the whole package has many scouts believing he is the closest thing to Derek Jeter in the Yankees farm system.
\r\n
\r\nETA. 2012. While all signs point towards him repeating the South Atlantic League, where he starts the 2009 season will come right down to the wire. Despite his numbers this past season, he is still a good candidate to advance to the Florida State League.
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