Friday Donuts: Rank-And-File Optimism?

Friday Morning Mavs Donuts: Today's the day for high-level negotiations in New York, with some involved well aware that the 30-day window to open an NBA season on Christmas Day is here. Meanwhile, there is a vibe among rank-and-file members ... and there might be a Kidd-Nash charity game in the works!



DONUT 1: And what is that vibe?

Enough optimism that the "I'm-going-overseas'' rush from earlier this week has slowed. Enough positive buzz that some rank-and-file types that I know would've signed the owners' last offer think the non-union has been nudged closer to an agreement. Enough optimism that both sides are leaking "all-we-need-is ...'' info to NY reporters.

DONUT 2: Me? I'm sticking with the "Fool-Me-Once'' mentality, at least until I hear Dallas Mavericks principles Dirk, Donnie, Carlisle and Cuban tell me there is a training camp tomorrow.

DONUT 3: Howard Beck of the NY Times says the talks will resume with the "50-50 BRI split'' idea as the basis. Chris Broussard of ESPN says the players are going to ask for "concessions'' that include: Max salaries allowed to be 30 percent of cap, not 25; higher qualifying offers for restricted FA's; and modifications to allow movement and money for mid-level players.

I assume that's just the tip of the iceberg ... and yet on the other hand I recall Hunter saying they were just "three tweaks away'' from a deal ... and yet on the other-other hand I believe the antitrust lawyers don't especially want a settlement today.

Fool me once. Wake me up when you're done foolin'.

DONUT 4: Catch up with your Mavs reading, all right here on DB.com:

Hey, Fish, what side are you on in this mess? Allow me to explain.

Are the players really "unanimous'' in their feelings? I go team-by-team for a looksee.

What is up with some Mavs players, from Roddy B's foot to Tyson Chandler's head.

DONUT 5: Who wants to win a Mavs Charles Barkley Bigghead?
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DONUT 6: ESPN's Tom Haberstroh and I engaged in a sharp Twitter exchange that was triggered by this post from him:

"Inking a bad CBA just to play = a concussed football player returning to the field dazed. Fans cheer YAY!, ignore severe long-term damages.''

As I told Tom, he's right about how we as fans don't have much concern for "long-term damages'' to the league following a "bad CBA.'' You really don't care if the union is strong or weak or if teams overpay or what the lux-tax penalties might be (unless maybe they hurt your own team).

So in that sense, yes, we are happy to cheer for a CBA with a concussion.

But ... (and I've got three "buts''): a) Who says this is a bad CBA? A writer from ESPN? Why does he get a vote when DeShawn Stevenson and Shane Battier and Kevin Martin and Glen Davis don't get votes? b) What, exactly, are the long-term damages? Players will make on average $5 mil instead of $6 mil? How damaging is that? And c) The most offensive part of Tom's take regards the football concussion and his (unintentional, I'm sure) flippancy towards it. My son sustained two concussions in his senior year of high school football. The second was in a playoff game at Texas Stadium. He required medical attention on the field and all-night care at home and when he decided against playing college football, I was actually pretty damn glad.

There is nothing about the "pain'' of signing this CBA or any other CBA that is anything like a football player sustaining a concussion. There is nothing like standing next to your son on the sidelines at Texas Stadium and watching as he's unable to answer when a doctor asks him where he is. Nothing.

DONUT 7: The father of former Raptors coach Jay Triano and a Canadian celeb in his own right, is involved in a sex scandal involving children. If we pay attention, we might begin to note that the involvement of predatory men in youth sports is no coincidence, and maybe more widespread than we dare think.

DONUT 8: DB.com cannot do our thing without the help of sponsors and partners like I bet I could recruit the involvement of MavCowTickets and Esparza's Restaurant , Classic of Carrollton and McKinneyDentist.com . Give my guys a click, if you please!

Happy Thanksgiving ... and thank you, guys!

DONUT 9: NY media has sources saying if we can get this league cranked back up Christmas, we're looking at a condensed season, 66 games. A few games packed in together. Maybe an advantaged for an experienced and deep team (like Dallas?), maybe a disadvantage for an old and been-there team (like Dallas?).
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DONUT 10: Yahoo reports that Kidd and Nash are planning a charity game to be played Dec. 10 in Northern California. Sounds fun. Hope labor peace kills.

DONUT 11: Come follow Fish and the Mavs on Twitter!



DONUT 12: DeShawn Stevenson is a loud and dissenting voice when it comes to the leadership of Billy Hunter. And somehow, not-a-union leader Hunter -- during this busiest and most critical of all weeks -- has the time to phone an internet reporter to rebuff Stevenson's thoughts?

Billy, you didn't care enough about DeShawn to let him vote. But you care enough about DeShawn's words to launch a counter campaign in the media?

Please, please, please, get busy at doing your job today, OK?




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