Friday Mavs Donuts: Cuban's Table Manners

Friday Mavs Donuts, as we discuss whether our heads are really up our behinds and/or whether Mark Cuban needs to work on his table manners ... ESPN and 'SNL' are one in the same? ... Jet finishes third ... Mainstream-media trolling or straight ignorance? ... Eat your Donuts!



DONUT 1: Mark Cuban's table manners ...

There are certainly times when Dallas Mavericks owner Mark Cuban marches behind a podium (or atop a stairstepper) to talk to the media that he seems to leave behind him the polite manners Mr. and Mrs. Norton Cuban taught him back in the day in Pittsburgh.

But if we can get beyond Cuban labeling the entire media as brainless and "talking our of their asses,'' let's see if there is a core point in the diatribe.

"I've heard some of the talking headless," Cuban said before the Game 4 loss to the Thunder. "Those who are talking otherwise haven't read the CBA and are just talking out their asses without any foundation. But that's what you guys do."

That monologue is unfair on two levels:

*There are media people who have read the CBA. DallasBasketball.com happens to employ one (David Lord) who is on the small committee headed by Larry Coon charged with explaining the rules to the public. I exaggerate not a bit when I say that there aren't 30 people on the planet who understand the CBA better than David Lord.

*Cuban is wrong in assuming that IF you understand the CBA, you MUST agree with Dallas' Chandler decision. That's simply not true. It is possible to understand the rules and still believe that TY's talent merited Dallas matching the money the Knicks gave him. It is possible to understand the rules and still believe that Chandler as Dallas' second-best player is acceptable. It is possible to know the rules and still think a Dirk-Chandler team would've beaten OKC, would've beaten the next team, would've beaten the next team ...

Cuban is wrong here. Those who share his knowledge don't all share his conclusions.

However ...

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DONUT 2: Cuban's one good point ...

There is a reason that when you go to court, you hire a lawyer. Or that when you need medical advice, you don't self-diagnose.

In Cuban and Donnie, the Mavs are armed with two of the most astute, devoted and creative minds in the NBA. In that lawyerly/doctorly sense, they represent you -- the "you'' who doesn't read the CBA.

So if you're going to try to argue about the rules, try to argue against Cuban/Donnie ... shouldn't you kinda know the rules?

That's not a blind support of Cuban's decision. But I think it's a valid support of Cuban's knowledge -- especially when his knowledge is matched against most of us schmoes.

DONUT 3: "Can you give me the short version?'' ...

One media guy approached Donnie Nelson the other day and asked him to explain situation now. (The CBA and the Chandler decision and the Deron thing ... all pretty much hinted at and crowded into one question.)

"Well, ya got five hours?'' Donnie answered with a smile.

The reporter wasn't done.

"No,'' he said back to the Mavs GM. "Can you give me the short version?''

The CBA is a 600-page document. If I need to hire an attorney on the subject of constitutional law, and at some point I ask him, "Hey, can you explain the Constitution to me? I mean, the short version?'' ... I would kinda understand if he felt like insulting my intellect.

DONUT 4: Caught up on your Mavs news? ...

* David Lord dissects the Mavs ' performance and decisions and it all starts with a crummy 'D-minus'.
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* The Jason Kidd Video Visit - And My Takes On His Future

* Rick Carlisle - The Mavs' Most Important Free Agent of All

* Mavs Exit Interview Highlights and Insights including the 'Get Your Ass Home'' message to Deron Williams


* DB.com Boards, where Mavs fans love to barroom-brawl it!

* Are we all spoiled? Is any of this Dirk's fault? Donnie's 'Bataan Death March.'

DONUT 5: Is this ESPN or "SNL''? ...

So Colin Cowherd says, "I'd argue that (Rasheed Wallace) is more talented than Dirk.''

And Tim Legler responds, "Oh, no question.''

And Mike Fisher wonders: Has ESPN merged with "Saturday Night Live'' and forgotten to tell everybody?''
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DONUT 7: Are there such things as "mainstream media trolls''? ...

You wouldn't think so. Certainly, among beat writers, that doesn't fit into the traditional framework of the job. Yet I've now witnessed it mentioned to Rick Carlisle's face and mentioned in print as well that "the Thunder was 9-1 against the Mavs this year, counting the preseason.''

It that ignorance? Dumb-like-a-foxiness? Amateurish trolling? Or am I a hopeless homer for having never even thought to count practice-game results against my poor Mavs?

DONUT 8: Catch the Mavs and the DB.com Staff on Twitter! ...













DONUT 9: Lamar's money ...

Mavs players voted not to give Lamr Odom a share of the playoff pool. So 14 guys split about $282,000, meaning each player will receive about $20,000.

Of course, it's not really about the money..

"If the Lamar thing would have worked out and if he would have played like the year before when he was the best sixth man, I think we would have had a shot,'' says Dirk.

Instead, no shot. No money. And lots of symbolism.

DONUT 10: Best in the Business ...

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DONUT 11: Who needs tickets? ...

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DONUT 12: Congrats to Jet! ...

Oklahoma City's James Harden won Sixth Man of the Year in a landslide. He received 584 of a possible 595 points, including 115 of a possible 119 first-place votes. Philly's Lous Williams was second and the Mavericks' Jason Terry finished third in the voting.

DONUT 13: The Final Word ...

So Donnie doesn't believe his Mavs would've topped OKC even with Tyson here. In the moment of the Thunder's first-round sweep, I can see why somebody might get caught up in their excellence. But what happens if Denver tops the Lakers and advances to Round 2? Or even with those two teams going to a Game 7 ... It becomes much harder to argue that this Mavs team, with Chandler, would've had no shot against the Round 2 Nuggets or no shot against a Lakers team that struggled to get there.






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DallasBasketball.com happens to employ one (David Lord) who is on the small committee headed by Larry Coon charged with explaining the rules to the public. I exaggerate not a bit when I say that there aren't 30 people on the planet who understand the CBA better than David Lord. *Cuban is wrong in assuming that IF you understand the CBA, you MUST agree with Dallas' Chandler decision. That's simply not true. It is possible to understand the rules and still believe that TY's talent merited Dallas matching the money the Knicks gave him. It is possible to understand the rules and still believe that Chandler as Dallas' second-best player is acceptable. It is possible to know the rules and still think a Dirk-Chandler team would've beaten OKC, would've beaten the next team, would've beaten the next team ... Cuban is wrong here. Those who share his knowledge don't all share his conclusions. However ... There is a reason that when you go to court, you hire a lawyer. Or that when you need medical advice, you don't self-diagnose. In Cuban and Donnie, the Mavs are armed with two of the most astute, devoted and creative minds in the NBA. In that lawyerly/doctorly sense, they represent you -- the \"you'' who doesn't read the CBA. So if you're going to try to argue about the rules, try to argue against Cuban/Donnie ... shouldn't you kinda know the rules? That's not a blind support of Cuban's decision. But I think it's a valid support of Cuban's knowledge -- especially when his knowledge is matched against most of us schmoes. One media guy approached Donnie Nelson the other day and asked him to explain situation now. (The CBA and the Chandler decision and the Deron thing ... all pretty much hinted at and crowded into one question.) \"Well, ya got five hours?'' Donnie answered with a smile. The reporter wasn't done. \"No,'' he said back to the Mavs GM. \"Can you give me the short version?'' The CBA is a 600-page document. If I need to hire an attorney on the subject of constitutional law, and at some point I ask him, \"Hey, can you explain the Constitution to me? I mean, the short version?'' ... I would kinda understand if he felt like insulting my intellect. * David Lord dissects the Mavs ' performance and decisions and it all starts with a crummy 'D-minus'. * The Jason Kidd Video Visit - And My Takes On His Future * Rick Carlisle - The Mavs' Most Important Free Agent of All * Mavs Exit Interview Highlights and Insights including the 'Get Your Ass Home'' message to Deron Williams * DB.com Boards, where Mavs fans love to barroom-brawl it! * Are we all spoiled? Is any of this Dirk's fault? Donnie's 'Bataan Death March.' So Colin Cowherd says, \"I'd argue that (Rasheed Wallace) is more talented than Dirk.'' And Tim Legler responds, \"Oh, no question.'' And Mike Fisher wonders: Has ESPN merged with \"Saturday Night Live'' and forgotten to tell everybody?'' When you're in the neighborhood -- and what a fun neighborhood it is! -- come see the gang at Esparza's in Grapevine! The Margarita Capital of Texas and proud partners of DB.com now celebrating its 27th anniversary! You wouldn't think so. Certainly, among beat writers, that doesn't fit into the traditional framework of the job. Yet I've now witnessed it mentioned to Rick Carlisle's face and mentioned in print as well that \"the Thunder was 9-1 against the Mavs this year, counting the preseason.'' It that ignorance? Dumb-like-a-foxiness? Amateurish trolling? Or am I a hopeless homer for having never even thought to count practice-game results against my poor Mavs? Follow @fishsports Follow @thechuckperry Follow @coopmavs Follow @kevinbrolan Follow @mfollowill Follow @mdug Mavs players voted not to give Lamr Odom a share of the playoff pool. So 14 guys split about $282,000, meaning each player will receive about $20,000. Of course, it's not really about the money.. \"If the Lamar thing would have worked out and if he would have played like the year before when he was the best sixth man, I think we would have had a shot,'' says Dirk. Instead, no shot. No money. And lots of symbolism. Try our Premium Mavs coverage! This is what we do, every day, with 28 years of experience on the beat! It's pennies a day to get All-Access to what the Mavs are doing upstairs, down in the basement, in the locker room and on the court – and it's free to come inside for a 7-day tryout. Now more than ever, there's every reason to give it a go! Thanks for your support of the site at less than a dime-a-day! Go Mavs and Go Premium! My guy Ryan at MavCowTickets knows the ins and outs of the Mavs, the arenas, the opponents ... the works! For the most personal service in the business -- with no stupid add-on costs -- check him out and tell him The Fish sent you! Oklahoma City's James Harden won Sixth Man of the Year in a landslide. He received 584 of a possible 595 points, including 115 of a possible 119 first-place votes. Philly's Lous Williams was second and the Mavericks' Jason Terry finished third in the voting. So Donnie doesn't believe his Mavs would've topped OKC even with Tyson here. In the moment of the Thunder's first-round sweep, I can see why somebody might get caught up in their excellence. But what happens if Denver tops the Lakers and advances to Round 2? Or even with those two teams going to a Game 7 ... It becomes much harder to argue that this Mavs team, with Chandler, would've had no shot against the Round 2 Nuggets or no shot against a Lakers team that struggled to get there. 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