Mavs Donuts: Lakers Swaggy In For A Visit

DALLAS - This won't be a Kobe night. This needs to be a Dirk night, though, as he is six points shy of overtaking Elvin for eighth all-time on the NBA scoring list and 102 points shy of Moses for seventh. Cherish this - and worry as Dirk and Monta left shootaround this morning with stomach ailments - as you eat your Friday Mavs Donuts!



DONUT 1: Lakers at Mavs

The Dallas Mavericks last played LA on Nov. 21 as Nowitzki, Parsons and Ellis all reached the 20-point mark for Dallas to reachg franchise-high and NBA season-high 140 points in a 34-point rout. Weird number that emphasizes that LA has been crummy for more than just this season: Over the past four seasons, the Lakers have yielded 140 or more points four times while the rest of the league has combined for six.

So LA has its susceptibility on defense and besides Swaggy P essentially thinking he's a better player than Kobe even as he was 1-of-6 for three points off the bench on Christmas, really, the only thing the Lakers have going for them right now is former players' abilities to hit halfcourt shots for charity:



Nice $90,0000 setshot, Vlade!

It's a 7 p.m. "MAVS Live'' pregame on FOX Sports Southwest and then a 7:30 p.m. tipoff. Snuggle up with your TV tonight!

DONUT 2: See you at THE MAVERICK

It's every American man's dream (second only to the sex) and we're doing it: We're We've opened a bar! It's called 'The Maverick' and I'd love for you to like us on Facebook and then come see us this week during our (very) soft opening in preparation for the weekend, when we blow it out with burgers, our 30 TVs (including a 200-inch screen) and DFW's hottest band, Incognito.

Smile

Come say hi at "The Maverick''!

DONUT 3: Fighting in Temecula

Lakers fans remain delusional enough to wish to make 35-minute drives in order to get in fistfights over the dwindling value of Kobe.

Who knew Temecula could be so much fun?

DONUT 4: Snubbed already?!

The initial voting for the All-Star Game (Feb. 15 at Madison Square Garden) is out. In the East?

Frontcourt: 1, LeBron James, Cleveland, 552,967. 2, Carmelo Anthony, N.Y. Knicks, 265,170. 3, Pau Gasol, Chicago, 247,953. 4, Chris Bosh, Miami, 208,549. 5, Kevin Love, Cleveland, 169,818. 6, Joakim Noah, Chicago, 69,994. 7, Marcin Gortat, Washington, 57,715. 8, Jonas Valanciunas, Toronto, 52,318. 9, Kevin Garnett, Brooklyn, 46,494. 10, Al Jefferson, Charlotte, 43,230. 11, Paul Pierce, Washington, 35,197. 12, Nikola Vucevic, Orlando, 33,296. 13, Paul Millsap, Atlanta, 21,545. 14, Amar'e Stoudemire, N.Y. Knicks, 20,602. 15, Andre Drummond, Detroit, 19,128.

Guards: 1, John Wall, Washington, 299,209. 2, Dwyane Wade, Miami, 265,917. 3, Kyrie Irving, Cleveland, 237,356. 4, Kyle Lowry, Toronto, 182,896. 5, Derrick Rose, Chicago, 105,465. 6, Jimmy Butler, Chicago, 99,984. 7, DeMar DeRozan, Toronto, 51,946. 8, Giannis Antetokounmpo, Milwaukee, 17,512. 9, Louis Williams, Toronto, 15,329. 10, Bradley Beal, Washington, 13,911.

Fine. Now here's where it gets interesting. In the Western Conference ...

Frontcourt: 1, Anthony Davis, New Orleans, 524,623. 2, Blake Griffin, L.A. Clippers, 307,908. 3, Marc Gasol, Memphis, 227,554. 4, Tim Duncan, San Antonio, 198,649. 5, Kevin Durant, Oklahoma City, 191,881. 6, LaMarcus Aldridge, Portland, 152,253. 7, DeMarcus Cousins, Sacramento, 117,003. 8, Dwight Howard, Houston, 104,699. 9, Dirk Nowitzki, Dallas, 100,015. 10, Kawhi Leonard, San Antonio, 74,501. 11, Rudy Gay, Sacramento, 51,873. 12, DeAndre Jordan, L.A. Clippers, 43,051. 13, Nick Young, L.A. Lakers, 32,050. 14, Tyson Chandler, Dallas, 31,659. 15, Zach Randolph, Memphis, 30.147.

Guards: 1, Stephen Curry, Golden State, 549,095. 2, Kobe Bryant, L.A. Lakers, 521,542. 3, James Harden, Houston, 336,998. 4, Chris Paul, L.A. Clippers, 257,528. 5, Rajon Rondo, Dallas, 107,366. 6, Klay Thompson, Golden State, 90,957. 7, Russell Westbrook, Oklahoma City, 84,686. 8, Damian Lillard, Portland, 82,884. 9, Jeremy Lin, L.A. Lakers, 77,276. 10, Tony Parker, San Antonio, 50,287.

So it's Rondo, Dirk and TY. And that's it. With the awful Kobe taking up so many votes that the more deserving Monta Ellis isn't in the top 10. ... but the Lakers being what they are, Jeremy Lin is also above Ellis.

Smile

I've learned not to care about this stuff, from way back. And I recognize that fans want to see who they want to see. So ... good for you. You're going to get to see Kobe.

DONUT 5: Stat O' The Day

The 9-20 Lakers will be playing the second night of a back-to-back set of games, having visited Chicago on Christmas Day. LA is 1-5 on the second night of consecutive games.

DONUT 6: Old pals

I can tell you that in the case of Brandan Wright, he is not delighted to be an ex-Mav. Jae Crowder? Hey, maybe he gets playing time in Boston. And Jameer, also part of the package sent to the Boston Celtics for Rajon Rondo and Dwight Powell?

Well, the idea of signing with Dallas was because he wanted to play for a contender, so ...

Smile

"My job is to play, no matter where it is," Nelson said. "I'll give everything I have to the team that I'm on and everything I have for the guys in the locker room, the knowledge that I have, and try to help the coaches out as much as I can once I get comfortable. ...

"If you look at the situation, people are calling me and asking if I'm OK. I'm like, 'I'm OK.' I'm playing basketball for a living, something I love to do, something I'm blessed to have and be a part of this team."

It's the exact right attitude, part of the professionalism that Dallas thought would help make Jameer more viable here than he turned out to be. Still ...

"It's weird," Jameer said. "It's a bit weird. But I'm here. I keep telling people I'm just going to try to compete at a high level and help win games."

DONUT 7: Thanks to our pals and sponsors!

Here's McKinneyDentist.com ... with us since 1995! Give "the finest dentists in the land'' a click and a call!

Thanks to Red Rock Bar & Grill, our north Dallas hangout for live music and sports!

Meet LS Wealth Strategies, with Woody and Bill helping to guide my family and available to do the same for you!

Thanks to Estilo Gaucho, authentic Brazilian cuisine, family-owned and operated and just named one of the top 100 steakhouses in America!

And Dee Lincoln's, the famous DFW restauranteur now with a new location near Park and Preston!

One more thing ... Did I mention we're opening a bar?

DONUT 8: Quoteboard

"I think we could use an athletic big.'' -- Rondo.

DONUT 9: Rondo himself

The Mavs have expressed extreme confidence that Rajon Rondo will re-sign with the team. Birf rights. Five years vs. four. All of that. But you do sense that the Lakers are interested to see the point guard hit free agency, and admit it: as much as we make fun of the Rockets, don't we all have some concern that the Dallas-Houston rivalry (and whatever relationships Rockets players have with him) might make the Rockets a threat here?

DONUT 10: Remember Raymond?

Our man Eddie Sefko writes that Raymond Felton is "not ready to play'' and suggests a debut "along the lines of Jan. 2 in Boston as a possible unveiling.'' On the one hand, Dallas needn't rush him back from the ankle sprain, but on the other hand ... Felton himself has suggested he's ready and no ankle takes this long to heal and I could swear Felton has been practicing with the club on some level.

Trading Felton is at the very top of the list of things to do with him; that's no secret anymore. But wouldn't it help to showcase him, just a little bit, in order to further facilitate a deal?

DONUT 11: Merry Christmas

Was your living room turned into a playroom by the children on Christmas Day, too?



DONUT 12: The Final Word

Dirk Nowitzki is six points shy of overtaking Elvin Hayes (27,313) for eighth all-time on the NBA scoring list and 102 points shy of Moses Malone for seventh place.

Cherish this.

Dallas Basketball Top Stories

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\r\nNice $90,0000 setshot, Vlade!\r\n
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\r\nIt's a 7 p.m. \"MAVS Live'' pregame on FOX Sports Southwest and then a 7:30 p.m. tipoff. Snuggle up with your TV tonight!\r\n
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\r\n DONUT 2: See you at THE MAVERICK \r\n
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\r\nIt's every American man's dream (second only to the sex) and we're doing it: We're We've opened a bar! It's called 'The Maverick' and I'd love for you to like us on Facebook and then come see us this week during our (very) soft opening in preparation for the weekend, when we blow it out with burgers, our 30 TVs (including a 200-inch screen) and DFW's hottest band, Incognito. \r\n
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\r\n\"Smile\"\r\n
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\r\nCome say hi at \"The Maverick''!\r\n
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\r\n DONUT 3: Fighting in Temecula\r\n
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\r\nLakers fans remain delusional enough to wish to make 35-minute drives in order to get in fistfights over the dwindling value of Kobe.\r\n
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\r\nWho knew Temecula could be so much fun?\r\n
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\r\n DONUT 4: Snubbed already?!\r\n
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\r\nThe initial voting for the All-Star Game (Feb. 15 at Madison Square Garden) is out. In the East? \r\n
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\r\nFrontcourt: 1, LeBron James, Cleveland, 552,967. 2, Carmelo Anthony, N.Y. Knicks, 265,170. 3, Pau Gasol, Chicago, 247,953. 4, Chris Bosh, Miami, 208,549. 5, Kevin Love, Cleveland, 169,818. 6, Joakim Noah, Chicago, 69,994. 7, Marcin Gortat, Washington, 57,715. 8, Jonas Valanciunas, Toronto, 52,318. 9, Kevin Garnett, Brooklyn, 46,494. 10, Al Jefferson, Charlotte, 43,230. 11, Paul Pierce, Washington, 35,197. 12, Nikola Vucevic, Orlando, 33,296. 13, Paul Millsap, Atlanta, 21,545. 14, Amar'e Stoudemire, N.Y. Knicks, 20,602. 15, Andre Drummond, Detroit, 19,128.\r\n
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\r\nGuards: 1, John Wall, Washington, 299,209. 2, Dwyane Wade, Miami, 265,917. 3, Kyrie Irving, Cleveland, 237,356. 4, Kyle Lowry, Toronto, 182,896. 5, Derrick Rose, Chicago, 105,465. 6, Jimmy Butler, Chicago, 99,984. 7, DeMar DeRozan, Toronto, 51,946. 8, Giannis Antetokounmpo, Milwaukee, 17,512. 9, Louis Williams, Toronto, 15,329. 10, Bradley Beal, Washington, 13,911.\r\n
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\r\nFine. Now here's where it gets interesting. In the Western Conference ...\r\n
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\r\nFrontcourt: 1, Anthony Davis, New Orleans, 524,623. 2, Blake Griffin, L.A. Clippers, 307,908. 3, Marc Gasol, Memphis, 227,554. 4, Tim Duncan, San Antonio, 198,649. 5, Kevin Durant, Oklahoma City, 191,881. 6, LaMarcus Aldridge, Portland, 152,253. 7, DeMarcus Cousins, Sacramento, 117,003. 8, Dwight Howard, Houston, 104,699. 9, Dirk Nowitzki, Dallas, 100,015. 10, Kawhi Leonard, San Antonio, 74,501. 11, Rudy Gay, Sacramento, 51,873. 12, DeAndre Jordan, L.A. Clippers, 43,051. 13, Nick Young, L.A. Lakers, 32,050. 14, Tyson Chandler, Dallas, 31,659. 15, Zach Randolph, Memphis, 30.147.\r\n
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\r\nGuards: 1, Stephen Curry, Golden State, 549,095. 2, Kobe Bryant, L.A. Lakers, 521,542. 3, James Harden, Houston, 336,998. 4, Chris Paul, L.A. Clippers, 257,528. 5, Rajon Rondo, Dallas, 107,366. 6, Klay Thompson, Golden State, 90,957. 7, Russell Westbrook, Oklahoma City, 84,686. 8, Damian Lillard, Portland, 82,884. 9, Jeremy Lin, L.A. Lakers, 77,276. 10, Tony Parker, San Antonio, 50,287.\r\n
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\r\nSo it's Rondo, Dirk and TY. And that's it. With the awful Kobe taking up so many votes that the more deserving Monta Ellis isn't in the top 10. ... but the Lakers being what they are, Jeremy Lin is also above Ellis.\r\n
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\r\nI've learned not to care about this stuff, from way back. And I recognize that fans want to see who they want to see. So ... good for you. You're going to get to see Kobe.\r\n
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\r\n DONUT 5: Stat O' The Day \r\n
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\r\nThe 9-20 Lakers will be playing the second night of a back-to-back set of games, having visited Chicago on Christmas Day. LA is 1-5 on the second night of consecutive games.\r\n
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\r\nI can tell you that in the case of Brandan Wright, he is not delighted to be an ex-Mav. Jae Crowder? Hey, maybe he gets playing time in Boston. And Jameer, also part of the package sent to the Boston Celtics for Rajon Rondo and Dwight Powell?\r\n
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\r\nWell, the idea of signing with Dallas was because he wanted to play for a contender, so ...\r\n
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\r\n\"My job is to play, no matter where it is,\" Nelson said. \"I'll give everything I have to the team that I'm on and everything I have for the guys in the locker room, the knowledge that I have, and try to help the coaches out as much as I can once I get comfortable. ...\r\n
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\r\n\"If you look at the situation, people are calling me and asking if I'm OK. I'm like, 'I'm OK.' I'm playing basketball for a living, something I love to do, something I'm blessed to have and be a part of this team.\"\r\n
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\r\nIt's the exact right attitude, part of the professionalism that Dallas thought would help make Jameer more viable here than he turned out to be. Still ...\r\n
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\r\n\r\n\"It's weird,\" Jameer said. \"It's a bit weird. But I'm here. I keep telling people I'm just going to try to compete at a high level and help win games.\"\r\n
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\r\n DONUT 7: Thanks to our pals and sponsors! \r\n
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\r\nHere's McKinneyDentist.com ... with us since 1995! Give \"the finest dentists in the land'' a click and a call!\r\n
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\r\nThanks to Red Rock Bar & Grill, our north Dallas hangout for live music and sports!\r\n
\r\n
\r\nMeet LS Wealth Strategies, with Woody and Bill helping to guide my family and available to do the same for you!\r\n
\r\n
\r\nThanks to Estilo Gaucho, authentic Brazilian cuisine, family-owned and operated and just named one of the top 100 steakhouses in America!\r\n
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\r\nAnd Dee Lincoln's, the famous DFW restauranteur now with a new location near Park and Preston!\r\n
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\r\nOne more thing ... Did I mention we're opening a bar? \r\n
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\r\nDONUT 8: Quoteboard \r\n
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\r\n\"I think we could use an athletic big.'' -- Rondo.\r\n
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\r\nThe Mavs have expressed extreme confidence that Rajon Rondo will re-sign with the team. Birf rights. Five years vs. four. All of that. But you do sense that the Lakers are interested to see the point guard hit free agency, and admit it: as much as we make fun of the Rockets, don't we all have some concern that the Dallas-Houston rivalry (and whatever relationships Rockets players have with him) might make the Rockets a threat here?\r\n
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\r\nDONUT 10: Remember Raymond?\r\n
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\r\nOur man Eddie Sefko writes that Raymond Felton is \"not ready to play'' and suggests a debut \"along the lines of Jan. 2 in Boston as a possible unveiling.'' On the one hand, Dallas needn't rush him back from the ankle sprain, but on the other hand ... Felton himself has suggested he's ready and no ankle takes this long to heal and I could swear Felton has been practicing with the club on some level.\r\n
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\r\nTrading Felton is at the very top of the list of things to do with him; that's no secret anymore. But wouldn't it help to showcase him, just a little bit, in order to further facilitate a deal?\r\n
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\r\n DONUT 11: Merry Christmas \r\n
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\r\nDONUT 12: The Final Word \r\n
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\r\nDirk Nowitzki is six points shy of overtaking Elvin Hayes (27,313) for eighth all-time on the NBA scoring list and 102 points shy of Moses Malone for seventh place.\r\n
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\r\nCherish this.\r\n
\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n","mobileBody":" The Dallas Mavericks last played LA on Nov. 21 as Nowitzki, Parsons and Ellis all reached the 20-point mark for Dallas to reachg franchise-high and NBA season-high 140 points in a 34-point rout. Weird number that emphasizes that LA has been crummy for more than just this season: Over the past four seasons, the Lakers have yielded 140 or more points four times while the rest of the league has combined for six. So LA has its susceptibility on defense and besides Swaggy P essentially thinking he's a better player than Kobe even as he was 1-of-6 for three points off the bench on Christmas, really, the only thing the Lakers have going for them right now is former players' abilities to hit halfcourt shots for charity: Nice $90,0000 setshot, Vlade! It's a 7 p.m. \"MAVS Live'' pregame on FOX Sports Southwest and then a 7:30 p.m. tipoff. Snuggle up with your TV tonight! It's every American man's dream (second only to the sex) and we're doing it: We're We've opened a bar! It's called 'The Maverick' and I'd love for you to like us on Facebook and then come see us this week during our (very) soft opening in preparation for the weekend, when we blow it out with burgers, our 30 TVs (including a 200-inch screen) and DFW's hottest band, Incognito. Come say hi at \"The Maverick''! Lakers fans remain delusional enough to wish to make 35-minute drives in order to get in fistfights over the dwindling value of Kobe. Who knew Temecula could be so much fun? The initial voting for the All-Star Game (Feb. 15 at Madison Square Garden) is out. In the East? Frontcourt: 1, LeBron James, Cleveland, 552,967. 2, Carmelo Anthony, N.Y. Knicks, 265,170. 3, Pau Gasol, Chicago, 247,953. 4, Chris Bosh, Miami, 208,549. 5, Kevin Love, Cleveland, 169,818. 6, Joakim Noah, Chicago, 69,994. 7, Marcin Gortat, Washington, 57,715. 8, Jonas Valanciunas, Toronto, 52,318. 9, Kevin Garnett, Brooklyn, 46,494. 10, Al Jefferson, Charlotte, 43,230. 11, Paul Pierce, Washington, 35,197. 12, Nikola Vucevic, Orlando, 33,296. 13, Paul Millsap, Atlanta, 21,545. 14, Amar'e Stoudemire, N.Y. Knicks, 20,602. 15, Andre Drummond, Detroit, 19,128. Guards: 1, John Wall, Washington, 299,209. 2, Dwyane Wade, Miami, 265,917. 3, Kyrie Irving, Cleveland, 237,356. 4, Kyle Lowry, Toronto, 182,896. 5, Derrick Rose, Chicago, 105,465. 6, Jimmy Butler, Chicago, 99,984. 7, DeMar DeRozan, Toronto, 51,946. 8, Giannis Antetokounmpo, Milwaukee, 17,512. 9, Louis Williams, Toronto, 15,329. 10, Bradley Beal, Washington, 13,911. Fine. Now here's where it gets interesting. In the Western Conference ... Frontcourt: 1, Anthony Davis, New Orleans, 524,623. 2, Blake Griffin, L.A. Clippers, 307,908. 3, Marc Gasol, Memphis, 227,554. 4, Tim Duncan, San Antonio, 198,649. 5, Kevin Durant, Oklahoma City, 191,881. 6, LaMarcus Aldridge, Portland, 152,253. 7, DeMarcus Cousins, Sacramento, 117,003. 8, Dwight Howard, Houston, 104,699. 9, Dirk Nowitzki, Dallas, 100,015. 10, Kawhi Leonard, San Antonio, 74,501. 11, Rudy Gay, Sacramento, 51,873. 12, DeAndre Jordan, L.A. Clippers, 43,051. 13, Nick Young, L.A. Lakers, 32,050. 14, Tyson Chandler, Dallas, 31,659. 15, Zach Randolph, Memphis, 30.147. Guards: 1, Stephen Curry, Golden State, 549,095. 2, Kobe Bryant, L.A. Lakers, 521,542. 3, James Harden, Houston, 336,998. 4, Chris Paul, L.A. Clippers, 257,528. 5, Rajon Rondo, Dallas, 107,366. 6, Klay Thompson, Golden State, 90,957. 7, Russell Westbrook, Oklahoma City, 84,686. 8, Damian Lillard, Portland, 82,884. 9, Jeremy Lin, L.A. Lakers, 77,276. 10, Tony Parker, San Antonio, 50,287. So it's Rondo, Dirk and TY. And that's it. With the awful Kobe taking up so many votes that the more deserving Monta Ellis isn't in the top 10. ... but the Lakers being what they are, Jeremy Lin is also above Ellis. I've learned not to care about this stuff, from way back. And I recognize that fans want to see who they want to see. So ... good for you. You're going to get to see Kobe. The 9-20 Lakers will be playing the second night of a back-to-back set of games, having visited Chicago on Christmas Day. LA is 1-5 on the second night of consecutive games. I can tell you that in the case of Brandan Wright, he is not delighted to be an ex-Mav. Jae Crowder? Hey, maybe he gets playing time in Boston. And Jameer, also part of the package sent to the Boston Celtics for Rajon Rondo and Dwight Powell? Well, the idea of signing with Dallas was because he wanted to play for a contender, so ... \"My job is to play, no matter where it is,\" Nelson said. \"I'll give everything I have to the team that I'm on and everything I have for the guys in the locker room, the knowledge that I have, and try to help the coaches out as much as I can once I get comfortable. ... \"If you look at the situation, people are calling me and asking if I'm OK. I'm like, 'I'm OK.' I'm playing basketball for a living, something I love to do, something I'm blessed to have and be a part of this team.\" It's the exact right attitude, part of the professionalism that Dallas thought would help make Jameer more viable here than he turned out to be. Still ... \"It's weird,\" Jameer said. \"It's a bit weird. But I'm here. I keep telling people I'm just going to try to compete at a high level and help win games.\" Here's McKinneyDentist.com ... with us since 1995! Give \"the finest dentists in the land'' a click and a call! Thanks to Red Rock Bar & Grill, our north Dallas hangout for live music and sports! Meet LS Wealth Strategies, with Woody and Bill helping to guide my family and available to do the same for you! Thanks to Estilo Gaucho, authentic Brazilian cuisine, family-owned and operated and just named one of the top 100 steakhouses in America! And Dee Lincoln's, the famous DFW restauranteur now with a new location near Park and Preston! One more thing ... Did I mention we're opening a bar? \"I think we could use an athletic big.'' -- Rondo. The Mavs have expressed extreme confidence that Rajon Rondo will re-sign with the team. Birf rights. Five years vs. four. All of that. But you do sense that the Lakers are interested to see the point guard hit free agency, and admit it: as much as we make fun of the Rockets, don't we all have some concern that the Dallas-Houston rivalry (and whatever relationships Rockets players have with him) might make the Rockets a threat here? Our man Eddie Sefko writes that Raymond Felton is \"not ready to play'' and suggests a debut \"along the lines of Jan. 2 in Boston as a possible unveiling.'' On the one hand, Dallas needn't rush him back from the ankle sprain, but on the other hand ... Felton himself has suggested he's ready and no ankle takes this long to heal and I could swear Felton has been practicing with the club on some level. Trading Felton is at the very top of the list of things to do with him; that's no secret anymore. But wouldn't it help to showcase him, just a little bit, in order to further facilitate a deal? Was your living room turned into a playroom by the children on Christmas Day, too? Dirk Nowitzki is six points shy of overtaking Elvin Hayes (27,313) for eighth all-time on the NBA scoring list and 102 points shy of Moses Malone for seventh place. Cherish this. 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