Twitter Mailbag Part I: Offensive line?

With the eight training camp practices in the bank, the 49ers were given the day off Monday. So we decided to answer questions from our readers in Part I of our Twitter Mailbag.

SANTA CLARA, Calif. - The San Francisco 49ers were given their second day off of training camp Monday, allowing us to open up the Twitter mailbag for our readers to ask questions.

As always, the first week of camp draws intrigue. But when we all look back on the season, developments in early August seldom have an impact on how things turn out (Aldon's Smith's release not withstanding).

This time of year, players are re-familiarizing themselves with pads, while others are simply trying to get in shape to play football. And making snap judgements based on what's happening on the practice field can be dangerous.

Cornerbacks aren't hitting receivers to break up passes, linebackers are working on play recognition more than making sure that tight end doesn't make that catch in the flat, and quarterbacks' mastery of their offense is usually in its infancy.

Think of full-team drills in training camp like warmups you'd see before a game, with more intensity.

But what we can do at training camp is measure players based on how and where they get their practice reps. Also, individual drills provide some insight into areas that might get overlooked when 22 players are on the field at once.

With that awesome preface, let's get to your questions. As always, you can fire inquiries to me on Twitter, here.

Brandon Thomas has an outside chance at starting, yes. But it looks like that will only come if Marcus Martin takes over the starting center position, which has been held mostly by Joe Looney throughout the first week of camp.

The 49ers like Martin, a former third-round pick, a lot. But he's going through a transition period at right guard having not played there since high school. When he first arrived at USC, he was playing left guard, where he made 20 starts, before making the switch to center.

The first-team offensive line struggled early in camp, which eventually led to fewer snaps for Looney at center and more for Martin. When Martin's been snapping, Thomas has been the first option to take reps at right guard. Rookie Ian Silberman has also received a few reps there with the first team. To my knowledge, Looney has not gotten much work at guard, if any through the first week.

Thomas is also going through a position switch (the theme of this August for the O-line). He spent most of his college career at left tackle, which is very different from right guard. And after missing all of last season to recover from his ACL, Thomas is in pads for the first time in a year and a half.

The 49ers view Thomas as a starter, eventually. But right now, he's a rookie that's had a lot of time off. They're more worried about him getting his feet underneath him than competing for a starting job.

There are times when Arik Armstead's raw ability really stands out, and there are times when he's caught out leveraged and completely taken out of plays.

Armstead's been playing mostly at left defensive end with the second and third teams. He covers a lot of ground getting off the ball, but is still learning the nuances of going against NFL offensive linemen. In individual drills, he can be impressive. But during team drills, he can pushed back in double teams. Still, arrow up.

Overall, his length and strength really stand out, and there's plenty of promise there. He seems committed - which was a perceived issue leading up to the draft - and is trying to learn everything he can from the veterans, including Darnell Dockett, who's been playing the same position.

It's a perfect situation for Armstead to be in while he develops. The question becomes whether or not he can develop fast enough to leap frog more accomplished players on the depth chart. But if he's matched up against reserve offensive linemen in the preseason, he should play well.

Mike Davis isn't a running back that's going to stand out on the practice field. His best skill is his ability to grind out runs, which can't really be on display when contact is minimal.

But an important area where Davis looks the part is in pass protection and blitz pick up. He seems more advanced than most rookies in that area, and has the physical traits needed to be good. I'd imagine Davis is looking forward to the preseason, when he can start showing more of what he can do in the running game.

The 49ers finished with the fifth-ranked defense last year without Smith for nine games when he was suspended. Then he managed just two sacks in his remaining seven games.

A lot of the 2014's defense's success has to be attributed to two guys San Francisco lost in the offseason: Justin Smith and Chris Borland. They were arguably the 49ers' two best players on that side.

A lot of things have to go right for the defense if they want to get into that top-five discussion again, which seems like a long shot, at best, considering all the talent they lost defensively.

First, NaVorro Bowman needs to return to the 2013 vintage, when he probably should have won defensive player of the year. Second, new coordinator Eric Mangini needs to strike the right balance with his blitzes and not leave the secondary in too many vulnerable positions. Third, Eric Reid, who had three concussions in his first two seasons, and Antoine Bethea, who just turned 31, have to stay healthy.

The obvious fourth: the combination of Aaron Lynch and rookie Eli Harold has to be a productive pass rushing tandem. Ahmad Brooks has looked very good in camp so far, but he can't provide a steady pass rush on his own. If Harold and Lynch can be held in check one-on-one, then teams will shift help toward Brooks' side.

Corey Lemonier looks more like the player he was in 2014, when he lost his job in the starting lineup to Lynch, than the promising rookie he was in 2013.

The 49ers don't need a 15-sack player, like Smith might have been. But they do need their talented group of outside linebackers to step up. A top-5 defense? That's the best case scenario. Top-10 is a more realistic goal.

Although he's missed the last few practices with a muscle strain, signs are pointing to Bruce Ellington getting the majority of looks as the third receiver, with Jerome Simpson and Quinton Patton also garnering consideration.

Ellington provides a dynamic the offense hasn't had in recent seasons. He can line up in the back field and give linebackers fits if they have to cover him, or he can be a valuable slot receiver that could help out on third down. Ellington has the best hands of 49ers receivers not named Anquan Boldin.

That being said, his health is an obvious concern. Ellington dealt with ankle issues last summer and a separate hamstring injury during the offseason program that kept him out of minicamp and OTAs. But perhaps with the additions of Reggie Bush and DeAndrew White (should he make the team), Ellington's role as a return man may get reduced, which could help keep him healthy.

It has to be the offensive line. Four of the five positions on the first team are playing different spots than they did last year. Joe Looney has played center this summer after playing guard. Marcus Martin is playing right guard after playing center. Alex Boone is playing left guard after playing right guard. And Erik Pears is playing right tackle after playing right guard last year in Buffalo.

Joey Staley is the only one staying put at left tackle.

So not only are these guys learning new positions, they're trying to become a cohesive five-man unit while doing so.

It's easy to see why the offensive line struggled in the early going, particularly having to go against the 49ers' defensive line, which might be their best positional group on the roster. But there are three other very good defensive fronts within the NFC West. And if San Francisco wants a chance at the playoffs, they are going to need that offensive line to play well.

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Brandon Thomas has an outside chance at starting, yes. But it looks like that will only come if Marcus Martin takes over the starting center position, which has been held mostly by Joe Looney throughout the first week of camp.

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The 49ers like Martin, a former third-round pick, a lot. But he's going through a transition period at right guard having not played there since high school. When he first arrived at USC, he was playing left guard, where he made 20 starts, before making the switch to center.

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The first-team offensive line struggled early in camp, which eventually led to fewer snaps for Looney at center and more for Martin. When Martin's been snapping, Thomas has been the first option to take reps at right guard. Rookie Ian Silberman has also received a few reps there with the first team. To my knowledge, Looney has not gotten much work at guard, if any through the first week.

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Thomas is also going through a position switch (the theme of this August for the O-line). He spent most of his college career at left tackle, which is very different from right guard. And after missing all of last season to recover from his ACL, Thomas is in pads for the first time in a year and a half.

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The 49ers view Thomas as a starter, eventually. But right now, he's a rookie that's had a lot of time off. They're more worried about him getting his feet underneath him than competing for a starting job.

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@ChrisBiderman In your opinion how has Armstead fared in practice so far?

— Eric Perez (@PerezClick) August 10, 2015
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There are times when Arik Armstead's raw ability really stands out, and there are times when he's caught out leveraged and completely taken out of plays.

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Armstead's been playing mostly at left defensive end with the second and third teams. He covers a lot of ground getting off the ball, but is still learning the nuances of going against NFL offensive linemen. In individual drills, he can be impressive. But during team drills, he can pushed back in double teams. Still, arrow up.

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Overall, his length and strength really stand out, and there's plenty of promise there. He seems committed - which was a perceived issue leading up to the draft - and is trying to learn everything he can from the veterans, including Darnell Dockett, who's been playing the same position.

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It's a perfect situation for Armstead to be in while he develops. The question becomes whether or not he can develop fast enough to leap frog more accomplished players on the depth chart. But if he's matched up against reserve offensive linemen in the preseason, he should play well.

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How is Rookie RB Mike Davis looking. I haven't heard a whole lot about him lately, I got a feeling he can be a stud. https://t.co/OQ9AVntJDU

— Just-T-Tom (@JustTTom2000) August 10, 2015
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Mike Davis isn't a running back that's going to stand out on the practice field. His best skill is his ability to grind out runs, which can't really be on display when contact is minimal.

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But an important area where Davis looks the part is in pass protection and blitz pick up. He seems more advanced than most rookies in that area, and has the physical traits needed to be good. I'd imagine Davis is looking forward to the preseason, when he can start showing more of what he can do in the running game.

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@ChrisBiderman can this be a top 5 defense w/o aldon? it sure seemed like it was poised to be w/ him

— rkg115 (@rkg115) August 10, 2015
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The 49ers finished with the fifth-ranked defense last year without Smith for nine games when he was suspended. Then he managed just two sacks in his remaining seven games.

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A lot of the 2014's defense's success has to be attributed to two guys San Francisco lost in the offseason: Justin Smith and Chris Borland. They were arguably the 49ers' two best players on that side.

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A lot of things have to go right for the defense if they want to get into that top-five discussion again, which seems like a long shot, at best, considering all the talent they lost defensively.

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First, NaVorro Bowman needs to return to the 2013 vintage, when he probably should have won defensive player of the year. Second, new coordinator Eric Mangini needs to strike the right balance with his blitzes and not leave the secondary in too many vulnerable positions. Third, Eric Reid, who had three concussions in his first two seasons, and Antoine Bethea, who just turned 31, have to stay healthy.

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The obvious fourth: the combination of Aaron Lynch and rookie Eli Harold has to be a productive pass rushing tandem. Ahmad Brooks has looked very good in camp so far, but he can't provide a steady pass rush on his own. If Harold and Lynch can be held in check one-on-one, then teams will shift help toward Brooks' side.

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Corey Lemonier looks more like the player he was in 2014, when he lost his job in the starting lineup to Lynch, than the promising rookie he was in 2013.

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The 49ers don't need a 15-sack player, like Smith might have been. But they do need their talented group of outside linebackers to step up. A top-5 defense? That's the best case scenario. Top-10 is a more realistic goal.

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@ChrisBiderman who's winning the 3rd wr spot at this point?

— JP (@Jpgniner21) August 10, 2015
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Although he's missed the last few practices with a muscle strain, signs are pointing to Bruce Ellington getting the majority of looks as the third receiver, with Jerome Simpson and Quinton Patton also garnering consideration.

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Ellington provides a dynamic the offense hasn't had in recent seasons. He can line up in the back field and give linebackers fits if they have to cover him, or he can be a valuable slot receiver that could help out on third down. Ellington has the best hands of 49ers receivers not named Anquan Boldin.

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That being said, his health is an obvious concern. Ellington dealt with ankle issues last summer and a separate hamstring injury during the offseason program that kept him out of minicamp and OTAs. But perhaps with the additions of Reggie Bush and DeAndrew White (should he make the team), Ellington's role as a return man may get reduced, which could help keep him healthy.

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@ChrisBiderman what are the biggest concerns that you see so far?

— Rusty (@rustykramer) August 10, 2015
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It has to be the offensive line. Four of the five positions on the first team are playing different spots than they did last year. Joe Looney has played center this summer after playing guard. Marcus Martin is playing right guard after playing center. Alex Boone is playing left guard after playing right guard. And Erik Pears is playing right tackle after playing right guard last year in Buffalo.

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Joey Staley is the only one staying put at left tackle.

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So not only are these guys learning new positions, they're trying to become a cohesive five-man unit while doing so.

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It's easy to see why the offensive line struggled in the early going, particularly having to go against the 49ers' defensive line, which might be their best positional group on the roster. But there are three other very good defensive fronts within the NFC West. And if San Francisco wants a chance at the playoffs, they are going to need that offensive line to play well.

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SANTA CLARA, Calif. - The San Francisco 49ers were given their second day off of training camp Monday, allowing us to open up the Twitter mailbag for our readers to ask questions.

As always, the first week of camp draws intrigue. But when we all look back on the season, developments in early August seldom have an impact on how things turn out (Aldon's Smith's release not withstanding).

This time of year, players are re-familiarizing themselves with pads, while others are simply trying to get in shape to play football. And making snap judgements based on what's happening on the practice field can be dangerous.

Cornerbacks aren't hitting receivers to break up passes, linebackers are working on play recognition more than making sure that tight end doesn't make that catch in the flat, and quarterbacks' mastery of their offense is usually in its infancy.

Think of full-team drills in training camp like warmups you'd see before a game, with more intensity.

But what we can do at training camp is measure players based on how and where they get their practice reps. Also, individual drills provide some insight into areas that might get overlooked when 22 players are on the field at once.

With that awesome preface, let's get to your questions. As always, you can fire inquiries to me on Twitter, here.

@ChrisBiderman Do you think Brandon Thomas has a shot at the starting RG spot? heard a lot about Martin struggling.

— Chris Barrentine (@wastedfroggy) August 10, 2015

Brandon Thomas has an outside chance at starting, yes. But it looks like that will only come if Marcus Martin takes over the starting center position, which has been held mostly by Joe Looney throughout the first week of camp.

The 49ers like Martin, a former third-round pick, a lot. But he's going through a transition period at right guard having not played there since high school. When he first arrived at USC, he was playing left guard, where he made 20 starts, before making the switch to center.

The first-team offensive line struggled early in camp, which eventually led to fewer snaps for Looney at center and more for Martin. When Martin's been snapping, Thomas has been the first option to take reps at right guard. Rookie Ian Silberman has also received a few reps there with the first team. To my knowledge, Looney has not gotten much work at guard, if any through the first week.

Thomas is also going through a position switch (the theme of this August for the O-line). He spent most of his college career at left tackle, which is very different from right guard. And after missing all of last season to recover from his ACL, Thomas is in pads for the first time in a year and a half.

The 49ers view Thomas as a starter, eventually. But right now, he's a rookie that's had a lot of time off. They're more worried about him getting his feet underneath him than competing for a starting job.

@ChrisBiderman In your opinion how has Armstead fared in practice so far?

— Eric Perez (@PerezClick) August 10, 2015

There are times when Arik Armstead's raw ability really stands out, and there are times when he's caught out leveraged and completely taken out of plays.

Armstead's been playing mostly at left defensive end with the second and third teams. He covers a lot of ground getting off the ball, but is still learning the nuances of going against NFL offensive linemen. In individual drills, he can be impressive. But during team drills, he can pushed back in double teams. Still, arrow up.

Overall, his length and strength really stand out, and there's plenty of promise there. He seems committed - which was a perceived issue leading up to the draft - and is trying to learn everything he can from the veterans, including Darnell Dockett, who's been playing the same position.

It's a perfect situation for Armstead to be in while he develops. The question becomes whether or not he can develop fast enough to leap frog more accomplished players on the depth chart. But if he's matched up against reserve offensive linemen in the preseason, he should play well.

How is Rookie RB Mike Davis looking. I haven't heard a whole lot about him lately, I got a feeling he can be a stud. https://t.co/OQ9AVntJDU

— Just-T-Tom (@JustTTom2000) August 10, 2015

Mike Davis isn't a running back that's going to stand out on the practice field. His best skill is his ability to grind out runs, which can't really be on display when contact is minimal.

But an important area where Davis looks the part is in pass protection and blitz pick up. He seems more advanced than most rookies in that area, and has the physical traits needed to be good. I'd imagine Davis is looking forward to the preseason, when he can start showing more of what he can do in the running game.

@ChrisBiderman can this be a top 5 defense w/o aldon? it sure seemed like it was poised to be w/ him

— rkg115 (@rkg115) August 10, 2015

The 49ers finished with the fifth-ranked defense last year without Smith for nine games when he was suspended. Then he managed just two sacks in his remaining seven games.

A lot of the 2014's defense's success has to be attributed to two guys San Francisco lost in the offseason: Justin Smith and Chris Borland. They were arguably the 49ers' two best players on that side.

A lot of things have to go right for the defense if they want to get into that top-five discussion again, which seems like a long shot, at best, considering all the talent they lost defensively.

First, NaVorro Bowman needs to return to the 2013 vintage, when he probably should have won defensive player of the year. Second, new coordinator Eric Mangini needs to strike the right balance with his blitzes and not leave the secondary in too many vulnerable positions. Third, Eric Reid, who had three concussions in his first two seasons, and Antoine Bethea, who just turned 31, have to stay healthy.

The obvious fourth: the combination of Aaron Lynch and rookie Eli Harold has to be a productive pass rushing tandem. Ahmad Brooks has looked very good in camp so far, but he can't provide a steady pass rush on his own. If Harold and Lynch can be held in check one-on-one, then teams will shift help toward Brooks' side.

Corey Lemonier looks more like the player he was in 2014, when he lost his job in the starting lineup to Lynch, than the promising rookie he was in 2013.

The 49ers don't need a 15-sack player, like Smith might have been. But they do need their talented group of outside linebackers to step up. A top-5 defense? That's the best case scenario. Top-10 is a more realistic goal.

@ChrisBiderman who's winning the 3rd wr spot at this point?

— JP (@Jpgniner21) August 10, 2015

Although he's missed the last few practices with a muscle strain, signs are pointing to Bruce Ellington getting the majority of looks as the third receiver, with Jerome Simpson and Quinton Patton also garnering consideration.

Ellington provides a dynamic the offense hasn't had in recent seasons. He can line up in the back field and give linebackers fits if they have to cover him, or he can be a valuable slot receiver that could help out on third down. Ellington has the best hands of 49ers receivers not named Anquan Boldin.

That being said, his health is an obvious concern. Ellington dealt with ankle issues last summer and a separate hamstring injury during the offseason program that kept him out of minicamp and OTAs. But perhaps with the additions of Reggie Bush and DeAndrew White (should he make the team), Ellington's role as a return man may get reduced, which could help keep him healthy.

@ChrisBiderman what are the biggest concerns that you see so far?

— Rusty (@rustykramer) August 10, 2015

It has to be the offensive line. Four of the five positions on the first team are playing different spots than they did last year. Joe Looney has played center this summer after playing guard. Marcus Martin is playing right guard after playing center. Alex Boone is playing left guard after playing right guard. And Erik Pears is playing right tackle after playing right guard last year in Buffalo.

Joey Staley is the only one staying put at left tackle.

So not only are these guys learning new positions, they're trying to become a cohesive five-man unit while doing so.

It's easy to see why the offensive line struggled in the early going, particularly having to go against the 49ers' defensive line, which might be their best positional group on the roster. But there are three other very good defensive fronts within the NFC West. And if San Francisco wants a chance at the playoffs, they are going to need that offensive line to play well.

Next story:

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