Archive for November, 2010
@3_Dots Moss just doesn’t seem to fit the Mangini mold, unless he wants to take his Belichick disciple status to a whole new level.
Latest Links from the OBR Newswire
OBR Newswire on November 1st, 2010 AT 11:00 PM
These are links from the OBR Newswire for November 1st from 07:27 to 22:41:
- New Philadelphia Times-Reporter – Fairness doctrine, injuries – One school of football thought has it that a starter shouldn’t lose his job to injury.
- Plain Dealer – The Colt McCoy campaign isn’t a winner (right now) for the Cleveland Browns – The old saying that no one is more popular than the backup quarterback doesn't apply to this town.
- Plain Dealer – Outrunning the darkness: Cleveland Browns safety Abe Elam determined to keep his ‘happy ending’ despite a life of gloom – Abram Elam looked at teenager Shaquille Perry and saw himself.
- News-Herald – Browns special teams are on a roll under Brad Seely – Nothing gets a special teams coach more recognition than a blocked punt, a successful fake punt, a punt return for touchdown or a kick return for touchdown — especially the embarrassed coach of the victimized team.
@scottiegraef Just can’t see the Browns bringing in a problem child like Moss, no matter how big their need at WR. Doesn’t fit the pattern.
Jerry Sherk Radio Interview
Don Delco on November 1st, 2010 AT 8:48 PM
Former Browns defensive tackle Jerry Sherk was interviewed Grants Pass, Oregon’s KAJO AM 1270 back on Sept. 7. Sherk, who was born in Grants Pass in 1948, played for the Browns from 1970-81 and was a four-time Pro Bowler, and in 1976 he was named the NFL Defensive Player of the Year in 1975 and an All-Pro.
During his interview with 1270′s Carl Wilson, Sherk talks not only about his time playing at Grants Pass High School and for Oregon State, but also his career with the Browns.
Currently, Sherk lives near San Diego where he runs Mentor Management Systems, a business that purports to provide technical assistance for organizations that are developing youth and ex-offender mentoring programs.
Browns-Patriots Game Release
Barry McBride on November 1st, 2010 AT 8:21 PM
Some reading for you from the Browns. Here’s this week’s game release. Right-click and save to put it on your hard drive.
Browns Player Quotes, Nov. 1
Don Delco on November 1st, 2010 AT 4:52 PM
?WR Joshua Cribbs
(On if they have momentum coming off of the bye week going into the rest of the season)- "I think there's a lot of momentum going into this game, just having beat the defending Super Bowl champions. As a team, as a whole, we know when all three units combine to give a good effort that we can be victorious. Without turning the football over, without making self-inflicted wounds and negatives, we can win football games and we proved that.”
(On what Colt McCoy has shown him in his first two starts)- "He's shown that he is capable of running the offense effectively, not just another guy in a system. He's made plays, he's been smart, he didn't turn the football over last game and that was big. He's let everything work for him. Just being comfortable back there, not being pressured even in the Pittsburgh game, not falling under pressure and handling himself really well."
QB Seneca Wallace
(On the philosophy of not losing one's job due to injury)- "If you're playing well and like I said last week, injuries happen. If you're playing well and you get injured, it still all comes down to the coach's decision to bring you back. If they want to bring you back as the starter, then they'll do that. If you're playing well, there shouldn't be a problem for you to come back and be the guy. Like I said, at the end of the day, it's the coach's decision."
(On if he is feeling better)- "Yes, every day it has been getting better. Rehabbing and doing all of the proper things, it's been great. Hopefully we will see what happens this week."
(On if he is targeting Wednesday to come back and practice)- "Hopefully. I'm going to continue to keep doing what I have been doing, staying on the right path and take it day to day. We will see what happens once we start moving around and doing more things."
(On if he has a gut feeling whether or not he will be ready to play Sunday)- "I want to try my best to be ready. This is my first time missing a significant amount of time, so it's tough. I want to be out there playing and doing whatever I can to contribute. I'm shooting for it and hopefully we will see what happens as the week goes on."
(On if there needs to be some resolution on who the starting quarterback is going to be going forward)- "Again, I can't say. That has been the question, so we will leave it up to the coaches. They feel like whoever is doing the best job will be the leader of this team."
(On if the coaches have given him any indication of if his play was good enough before the injury to make him the starter)- "We had talks before I even got injured, ‘You're playing good, just keep it up.' Like I said, all three of us, all we can do is let our game speak for it and we will see what happens after that."
(On how difficult it was for his injury to happen when it did)- "For me personally, it was difficult. Like I said last week, I felt like I was doing great in that game. We were moving the ball. That was a lot of hard work from the weeks prior, so to go down with an injury is devastating and it's tough on me. Like I said, it's part of the game and you just have to try to work to get back."
(On if it is normal for teams coming off a bye week to take time to get back going again)- "A lot of teams and coaches do it differently everywhere you go. They all have got their own philosophy, but it's always crucial to get away from the game a little bit, recharge your batteries and you come back refreshed. Depending on how many days you got off from that, it's up to the coach."
(On how he would react if McCoy was named starter once he was healthy)- "That's their decision. Like I said, I can't react to it any way. I have just got to prepare just in case something happens and see what happens after that. Like I said, at the end of the day it comes up to the coaching staff."
(On if the offense is no longer a "crash course" when he steps on the field)- "Every time, you want to try to improve week to week. Everything comes into perspective. It's dealing with media, this is different, dealing with the fans, dealing with the coaches and players and how we do things on Sundays. All of it comes into that and week to week, you learn, you get better and you want to improve and start moving forward in the right direction. I felt like we were doing that when I was out there. Like I said, it was devastating to get hurt, but right now Colt is leading the team and we will see what happens as the season goes on."
(On if Wednesday will be the first time he has thrown the ball since he has been out of the boot)- "Probably so. I threw it around a little bit today, but a significant amount will probably be dependent on how I feel maybe Wednesday or Thursday. We'll see."
(On if he has thought how the Atlanta game would have ended had he not came out with an injury)- "Like I said, I felt like things were clicking. The receivers were doing great, the offensive line was protecting and we were moving the ball. It's kind of hard to say how the outcome would have came of that game because things change. We had a whole second half of football and things can change in a whole second half of football. The rate that we were going and clicking on offense, I would have hoped that it would have ended up in a good outcome."
Mangini Press Conference Transcript, Nov. 1
Don Delco on November 1st, 2010 AT 4:22 PM
Below is transcript from coach Eric Mangini’s Monday morning press conference, as provided by the Browns’ PR staff:
?(Opening statement) - "Good morning everybody, welcome back. Today, we are doing the third day of our bye week. We wanted to have the guys get the concentrated time off that they did and we were able to cover first and second down and third down last week. As we do on Monday, this is really the third installment of looking at us. We have gone through the red area, the goal line, the short yardage, the things that we typically do on a Friday, we did that study when the players were gone on Thursday and then we'll practice that here today. This morning, that's what they went through, they went through the corrections that we had, the different things that we were either going to add or subtract with the diagrams and corrections that component of it, walk through it. Then we'll practice it, watch it on tape and finish that part of it up. It's really Browns today and moving our corrections forward today and then when they leave we'll move forward on the Patriots and when they come back on Wednesday that will be our focus. It will be normal game week. In terms of guys practicing, only three guys will be out today, it should be just Seneca (Wallace), Jake (Delhomme) and John (St. Clair). So everybody else should be back, which is a low number for us I think so far."
(On if he watched the Minnesota game last night) - "I saw part of it. I taped it. I saw part of it and then got interrupted by trick-or-treating."
(On Brett Favre's starting streak) - "In terms of him starting or not starting next week, I know that when we were together in New York we never talked about that. He never brought that up with me. That was never a focus of something that we would have in our discussions. We would get together typically in the early but of the week either Tuesday or Wednesday to just discuss the plan and things like that and that never came up, so I'm not sure how it is currently or any of that."
(On if Brett Favre's streak and Cal Ripken's streak are comparable) - "My father-in-law (Ron Shapiro) had Cal and I'm a little bias there just because of that. I think that was a pretty amazing streak, but to play that many games, such a physical game, so demanding, to take the type of hits that he's taken over time and still be able to come back and play the next week, it's pretty amazing. It's amazing in any position and I think it's really amazing at the quarterback spot."
(On while in New York if Brett Favre was still there best chance to win games when he had a torn bicep) - "Yes, definitely and the thing with that whole situation was he practiced each one of those days and he wasn't receiving treatment so I knew he was going to play each week, we knew he was going to play each week. He definitely gave us our best chance to win at that point so we were going to move forward with it. That was the thought process."
(On the Browns' starting quarterback for Sunday) - "I think Jake and Seneca are a lot better after the bye and some more time. I'd say Wednesday may have a shot. I'd say Seneca's probably a little closer than Jake, but that could flip pretty quickly so we'll just see where they are."
(On if he has talked with Brian Daboll and Mike Holmgren about which quarterback will start) - "We haven't had to have any discussions yet because neither guy is practicing.”
(On if both Jake Delhomme and Seneca Wallace might be ready for Wednesday) - "I think Seneca's a little further ahead than Jake is right now but I don't know whether they will or not Jeff (Schudel)."
(On if the old thought of not losing your job to injury still applies today) - "I don't think any rule is hard and fast. Each situation you have to look at a little bit differently. Tom (Brady) went in and played and has played pretty well and we stayed with him that whole year. I don't know. I don't really feel like it's just one universal rule that can be applied to every single guy."
(On if they would start Seneca Wallace if he was better before Jake Delhomme knowing that they would start Jake when he was heeled in a week or two because this would mean another transition for the offense to go through) - "What I've been happy with is I really feel when Seneca played he played well. Since Colt's (McCoy) been playing, he's played well and I know that we talked about before even Colt got a chance to play, it would be a nice situation to be able to choose between two really good options. I've been pleased with what Colt has done, but I was pleased with what Seneca had done as well. I think that's a good situation where you have two guys that it's not like either guy went in and you're looking for the next alternative. I think they've both done nice things and now it's going to be a function of getting guys back to healthy, seeing where Colt continues to go. There is some ability now to go further in terms of rest if we need to with Seneca or Jake because we do have the situation that we have."
(On if injured reserve is a possibility for Jake Delhomme) - "That's nothing that we've talked about Mary Kay (Cabot) so I really feel he's progressing like you would expect him to. There haven't been any setbacks; there hasn't been any thought process to him not being able to play once this is completed."
(On if they would start a different quarterback for different teams if he thought they matched up better for a specific game) - "I really wasn't thinking in those terms Jeff (Schudel), where you'd go one guy one week, one guy the next week, one guy the other. That's not how I was thinking of it. I was thinking of it more just who you feel is playing better, who's going to move the offense more effectively at that point, not necessarily switching those guys out like you may a feature running back or a feature receiver. Although some teams have used two quarterbacks, that's not really what I was talking about."
(On if he takes into consideration the opinions of the players about Colt McCoy playing into consideration) - "No, I think that would be the case if Colt had gone in and not done very well and that's what it was. You're not going to get something past that group of guys in there, they're pretty savvy. Everybody can see that he's done good things and if he continues to do good things they'll see that too. I feel like I've been pretty consistent in terms of trying to get the best guys on the field and trying to give guys opportunities if they earn it and having it be merit based as opposed to how much money a guy's making or where they were drafted or any of those things. If they feel like you're playing someone to justify a draft pick or to justify a salary, they don't feel like you're doing what you're supposed to do. You're holding up your end of the bargain giving everybody the chance to win the game. That's more important because it doesn't matter how you got here it matters what you do while you're here and how you help the group be successful."
(On if he would ask the captains or players about who they felt should start) - "I talk to the captains every week and it's not a shy group. Scott's (Fujita) in there, Phil Dawson's in there, you know right on down the line, Joe (Thomas), (Josh) Cribbs, they'll express their feelings. I don't feel like I ever have to say ‘Hey guys what do you think'.”
(On if he takes the players' opinions into consideration) - "You take all of that stuff into consideration. You know. Guys know, you know, the coaches know there is enough interaction and awareness and conversations you get a sense of how guys feel and what they're thinking. At the end of the day everyone wants the same thing. Everybody is selfish in the sense that we all want to win. Whatever we can do to get there is what everybody wants to do."
(On if the team fades out of the playoff race if he would play whatever quarterback would help them win the game or play Colt McCoy who could potentially be the future of the team) - "No it would be the guy who gives you the best chance to win that particular game and that to me is something that we owe the other players, we owe ourselves, we owe the fans. We're playing to win the games. We're not using the games as a developmental type mode. You want guys to develop as they're playing but we're playing to win each game and that's our commitment collectively."
(On how this is the first home game since Colt McCoy has been playing and how there will be more energy in the stands and if that goes into consideration at all) - "To me there's always energy in the stadium and my goal is to have that energy build because we're winning the game and we win the game as opposed to just the initial announcements. It's more to get the best group out."
(On if he got a lot of feedback on the quarterback decision while out trick-or-treating) - "There wasn't a ton of feedback on that specific case. There were some pretty funny comments one guy came up and said, ‘You two guys, great costumes you like just like Mark Shapiro and Eric Mangini' I said, ‘Thanks, I've been working on it.' We went to Chagrin Falls it's pretty amazing talk about just America. Hundreds of kids, houses decorated what a great environment. I've never experienced anything like that. I've never seen that before just incredible and there were a lot of local fans too which was nice but everyone was focusing on the trick-or-treating which was great too."
(On if a Colt McCoy came to do the door) - "I was out with the boys so I didn't have one. I saw a couple Josh Cribbs, it was pretty funny with the dreads and it was pretty cool."
(On what his thoughts were when he was in New England and they decided to go with Tom Brady after Drew Bledsoe was healthy) - "We were rolling pretty good and I was coaching the DBs (defensive backs) and whatever the decision was the decision was. You just focus on your group and get them to play well and then all the other decisions, we weren't really analyzing it."
(On what he took from going through that) - "It was a pretty plus decision it worked out pretty well for us at that point. You hope all decisions work out that well but each place is different each situation differs."
(On if he thinks it is almost impossible for a coach to sit Brett Favre) - "I don't know. It's what are the alternatives. I think it really comes down to what are the alternatives and when you play Brett, defenses play differently. Whether he's healthy or not healthy or has a bum leg or whatever it is, you get different defenses because they've got to honor the deep ball, they've got to honor his ability to generate points and to generate points rapidly. I don't know if the alternative that you put in there, maybe there is a change in actually performance, but what you'll see will be radically different with the next guy then what you see when you play him because he can do things other guys can't do and he can do things hurt that other guys can't do. I remember the week that we played Arizona, he was questionable, I think with an ankle or whatever it was and he threw five touchdowns. That was one week where we really didn't know whether he was going to be able to play and he goes out and throws five touchdowns and that's him. It's really what's your next guy and then is that next guys increase in performance however you're going to measure that, is that going to offset the change in defensive philosophy that you get by Brett not being in there."
Steelers Beaten in Trenches; Hope Renews
Barry McBride on November 1st, 2010 AT 2:30 PM
I’ve been calling on the Steelers to drop back down through the AFC North’s standings, a la The Bungles, for a few years now. Some of this is just a belief that the NFL is cyclical, and that what goes up invariably goes down. Another part of it is dis-belief that Pittsburgh could have so much success landing great coaches who had never been tested in the role before. Mike Tomlin, as with Ben Roethlisberger, seemed to have stepped into a good situation. Since I like to ignore the any positive facts where the Steelers are involved, I’m not 100% sold on either.
But perhaps my biggest argument that the Steelers wouldn’t stay on top forever was a chance in their focus from drafting linemen at the top of the draft to drafting skill position players. For years, the Steelers had avoided glitz and glamour in the draft, going instead for canny, often dull, choices with the prime draft picks. That seemed to change a bit a few years ago (only to be reversed of late), and the Steelers started targeting skill position players with an almost Modellian “gotta sell those upper deck seats behind the pillar” intensity.
I was almost disappointed last year when the Steelers made the dull choice of picking an offensive lineman.
Perhaps all those years of skill position focus are returning to haunt the Steelers, as the team struggled to run the ball and got stonewalled repeatedly close to the goal line against the Saints last night.
The Steelers seem to shrugging this off, convinced that deck was stacked against them (playoff-intensity crowd, Saints coming off a loss to Cleveland, etc, etc). And the Steelers admittedly remain one of the top teams in the NFL.
But those of us in Cleveland, surrounded by Black and Gold banners heralding the Ascent of the Fair Weather Fan can, at least, cross our fingers that we may be seeing a tidal shift in the fortunes of the Browns and Steelers. If not, we can at least take solace in the fact that any Steelers loss is a good loss.
Handicapping the QB Conundrum
Don Delco on November 1st, 2010 AT 1:31 PM
If it is Browns season, a quarterback conundrum must be at hand. Today, the Browns returned to work. Which quarterback will start Sunday’s game was the popular question posed to coach Eric Mangini.
The Orange and Brown Report’s Fred Greetham was in Berea on Monday for Mangini’s morning press conference and this passage raised my eyebrows.
“Mangini said that it would be a disservice to the team if they give up on the season and just try to play for the future,” Greetham wrote.
Greetham’s sentence was followed by this quote from Mangini:
"We're playing to win the games and not for a developmental mode.”
Mangini’s No. 1 job priority is to put his team in the best position to win Sunday against New England, not develop a young quarterback like Colt McCoy. McCoy may be the long-term answer in Cleveland, he may not. But if Mangini is looking at who will put the Browns in the best position to win Sunday, the more veteran player, Wallace, will be under center.
Wallace is 63-for-100 passing for 693 yards with four touchdowns and two interceptions. Meanwhile, McCoy is 32-for-49 passing for 355 yards with one touchdown and two interceptions.
It’s not an easy decision and the schools of thought as to who to start and why vary. Of course, if the Browns defense can force another four interceptions and return two for a touchdown, the starting quarterback issue is moot.
Odds of McCoy Starting Go Slightly Up
Barry McBride on November 1st, 2010 AT 10:46 AM
Fred Greetham just reported via the OBR Twitter feed that three Browns are not practicing today: Jake Delhomme, Seneca Wallace, and John St. Clair, whose ankle injuries continue.
The good news for the Browns is that the team seems to be getting healthier during the bye week. Having just three players miss practice is a throwback to the opening days of training camp for this club. It’s almost as if we’re not abnormally decimated by harrowing physical ailments.
At quarterback, however, rookie Colt McCoy will continue to receive the majority of snaps in practice as long as Wallace and Delhomme are out. Fred reports that Mangini claims that Wallace is a little bit ahead of Delhomme and would be the more likely of the two to step in next. The coach will re-examine it next Wednesday. In the meantime, the longer it takes for another quarterback to get under center in practice, the better the odds that Colt McCoy will get his third straight start.
Seneca a little ahead of jake. See wednesday.
Seneca jake st clair only 3 out.
VegasDan Hands Out the Rocks
Barry McBride on November 1st, 2010 AT 9:58 AM
Nice job by VegasDan landing Post of the Day today for his response to the eternal question Which Brown Is Most Likely to Get a Rock Trick-or-Treating?
Here’s his take:
Eric Wright wouldn’t get to the door in time to get the rock.
Abe Elam’s candy bag would have a hole in it and it would hit the ground.
Jake DelHomme would get the rock, trip on the stairs as he walks away and twist his ankle. As he was falling, he’d try to flip the rock to someone else but it would be intercepted by another trick-or-treater going down the sidewalk the other way.
Shawn Rogers would run right past the house. But, its ok because he always has a gun in his bag. He’ll get his later.
David Bowens would grab the rock and take it back to his house–twice.
Mike Adams would ask someone, ” What’s a rock?”
Sheldon Brown would just fall down.
Scott Fujita would send his rock to New Orleans.
Cris Gocong would fall on the rock.
Brian Daboll would ask, ” It’s Halloween?”
Josh Cribbs would throw the rock perfectly to Colt McCoy.
Peyton Hillis would grab his rock and plow into every other trick-or-treater on the sidewalk.
Lawrence Vickers would get hit in the back by the rock.
Joe Thomas wouldn’t let anyone GET rocks.