OBR Daily Blog 11/18

The Jaguars are 5-4 and can't sell out Sunday's game? For shame, Jacksonville. For shame.

1:00 AM

@Sockhatabe Divas get one free shove. You didn’t hear about that rule?

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To catch an O-lineman
Don Delco on November 18th, 2010 AT 5:01 PM

Jeff Hansen joins the Browns practice squad, the team announced Thursday afternoon. Jeff Hansen is not related to the NBC reporter, Chris Hansen.

Below is the official release from the Browns’ PR staff:

The Cleveland Browns signed offensive lineman Jeff Hansen to the practice squad, the club announced today.

Hansen was originally signed by San Diego as an undrafted free agent on April 26, 2010 and was waived on September 4. He started 44 games at Montana State University (2006-09), where he played both center and guard. He was a first team All-Big Sky and Academic All-Big Sky honoree in 2009. Born September 24, 1986, the 6-4, 300-pound Hansen is a native of Great Falls, Mont., where he attended C.M. Russell High School.

Browns-Jaguars Injury Report, Nov. 19
Don Delco on November 18th, 2010 AT 4:44 PM


Did Not Participate in Practice

DB Mike Adams, abdomen
DB Sheldon Brown, shoulder
?DL Kenyon Coleman, knee
WR Josh Cribbs, foot
LB Scott Fujita, knee
OL Eric Steinbach, calf
OL Floyd Womack, knee

Limited Participation in Practice

?LB Eric Barton, thigh
?LB Marcus Benard, illness
QB Jake Delhomme, ankle
DL Shaun Rogers, ankle


Did Not Participate in Practice

WR Mike Sims-Walker, ankle

Limited Participation in Practice

DT Tyson Alualu, knee
LB Justin Durant, shin
DE Jeremy Mincey, hand

Full Participation in Practice
DE Jeremy Mincey, hand

3:27 PM

@nursemichellem I agree. It makes no sense. But the media has fed off of it, and now it will be pushed aside.

Colt McCoy Quotes, Nov. 18
Don Delco on November 18th, 2010 AT 2:59 PM

(On on the possibility of Sunday being a letdown game after all of the emotional games)- "There will be no letdown. Trust me, I think this locker room is hungry. When you come off of a loss like that, you're in the game in overtime. The one thing I think this team has done a great job of is putting that behind us and looking forward to Jacksonville. We are looking forward to going on the road and playing well. We had a great day of practice yesterday and for us as an offense, they do a lot of different things. For me as quarterback, I understand that one, they beat Peyton Manning and the Indianapolis Colts and they beat Matt Schaub and the Texans last week. They confused them and so for me as a quarterback, I've got to understand my progressions, my reads and their blitzes. They don't blitz a lot, but when they do, it's usually pretty effective. I've got to be on point with that and understand what I have to help us do to be successful."

(On if he feels like he is starting to come into his own after leading a drive to send the game to overtime last Sunday)- "That was huge for our offense because we weren't really consistent in the second half. We didn't come out and perform like we wanted to. I thought the first half went great, we did a lot of good things and stayed on the field. In the second half, we need to do a better job to help our team because our defense played too many snaps on the field. The last drive was good, we tied it up, we had some momentum, but we have just got to learn as a team how to capitalize on that and how to win the game. That was frustrating for all of us because we fought hard and we fought to the very end. I think that one positive is that nobody gave up. Everybody continued to fight, continued to play well and we just lost it there at the end. This week I think we've regrouped, everybody has put that behind us and we are all 100 percent focused on Jacksonville."

(On if the hit that he took from Bart Scott last Sunday was different than any other hit he has taken previously)- "No, hits are hits. You know it's going to happen. I give credit to my offensive line, those guys have done a tremendous job of protecting us, understanding our scheme and what we are trying to do. I couldn't be more proud of those guys. We have just got to continue to keep playing."

(On the whole stadium stopping when he is getting up from a hit)- "It's okay. I played for four years in college, I know that's not the NFL, but I've been hit a lot. Sometimes it feels good to just be able to see a quarterback get hit, your line sees you get hit and you pop back up and then we go down two more plays and score. Sometimes you can turn that into a positive."

(On if his mental toughness is something he has had to work on)- "I think I'm blessed to have been able to play the position as long as I have and I hope to play it for a long time. Playing in college and in high school with my dad as my coach, I've just been around the game long enough to understand that the quarterback is the leader on the team, the guy that your teammates are looking to and you've got to be even keeled. You can't be too high or too low. If your teammates see you too excited or when you make a mistake, too down, you're not going be consistent. I just try to stay calm, stay cool and just continue to lead."

(On how he has been able to limit the amount of interceptions he has thrown)- "I think, one, you've got to give credit to Coach (Brian) Daboll, Coach (Carl) Smith and our offensive staff. Those guys have really done a great job of preparing me, I feel prepared going into games. Two, the offensive line and the receivers, those guys are catching the ball great and we are getting a lot of protection. We have seen a lot of blitzes, obviously, in the last couple of weeks and I think overall as a team, we have just been able to handle it pretty well."

(On the value of his tight ends Evan Moore and Benjamin Watson)- "I think we are very fortunate to have guys like Evan and Ben. When people blitz us, when people come after us, a lot of times those are the guys that are singled up. We are starting to see some double teams on them, but at the same time those guys are kind of like a baby blanket, I know where they're going to be. I can go them. That's huge for me as a quarterback."

(On how he and Peyton Hillis have become close)- "I think it's just natural. We are kind of from the same area, we are involved outside of football in the same types of things and we are very similar. We have very similar interests. He's doing a great job as a running back. When we are on and we can run the football, we can do a lot of things offensively and he gives us a spark. He needs to continue to play at a high level."

(On the decision to try and go for the score when backed up deep in their own territory in overtime last Sunday and if they would do it again)- "We'll learn from that, but I don't think it would be any different. I think this team wants to win and I think that's our attitude. When we are backed up like that, we're going to go score. If we've got to go 99, then we are going to try to go 99. That's part of the game and that's our mentality and I think if we are ever in that situation again, we will do the same thing."

(On what Jacksonville's defense does well)- "I think, one, they're very well coached. I know they've had some injuries in their secondary, I know (Aaron) Kampman is out, the defensive end. I think what they do well is they know where to be, they're in their right spot. I think sometimes as a quarterback, going three or four weeks in a row where you're thinking, ‘Blitz, blitz, where is it coming from?' This week, they are more traditional. They don't blitz as much. I think as a quarterback you can get caught asleep sometimes if you're not constantly aware of what's going on. For me, I think I definitely need to be prepared for that and because they don't do as much, they're not as exotic as some of the other teams we've played, they play fast and they're in the right spots. I think there's certainly areas where we can attack, areas where we need to be able to do something offensively, but it's going to be a challenge. It's going to be fun and I think our attitude in this locker room is really good because we put that loss behind us and we're plugging forward."

(On what he has seen from Watson this season)- "Ben's a great target, he's got great hands and we can use him in any situation. He can be in when we run a low power, he's a great blocker and when we spread him out, he can spread the field. You can get him matched up on linebackers, he's a very good player and he helps our offense a lot."

(On how he feels the chemistry with his receivers is coming along)- "We've just got to continue to keep working. I thought we played really well against New England, I thought this week we came back and we spread the ball around, we were efficient and when we have our chances we have to capitalize. I think that's the biggest thing. We work hard, we light it up in practice and we are starting to get a feel for each other. ‘Okay, I know your route is supposed to be 10 yards, but if that guy is sitting at 10, break eight and I'll hit you.' Those are things I think that come over time, that come with experience in playing with each other and I think we are slowly starting to gather that."

(On the coaches putting more on his plate each week because of him earning their trust)- "We've got a lot. We carry a lot into each game and we never know what we're going to see until we get our first few drives in. Last week, we were expecting a lot more man and they played a lot more zone. In that situation, you've got to have a lot on your plate to be able to adjust. It's good that they have trust, we have just got to continue to be able to understand what we need to do and be prepared for anything so we can keep going forward. I feel good with everything."

(On if the drives at the end of regulation and the first drive in overtime were evidence that he has been able to handle adjustments)- "When you play the Jets, obviously they are well-coached and they have got great players. Their playbook is deep too, they can do anything, so you just constantly have to know in your mind what offensively we are trying to do versus what they're going to do and don't let them dictate the things that we have to do. You have just got to keep working. They're right, there is a lot of stuff on the plate. I've just got to be able to, as a quarterback, handle it and put our offense in the best situations as possible."

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Mangini Press Conference Transcript, Nov. 18
Don Delco on November 18th, 2010 AT 2:24 PM

(Opening statement)- "Good morning everybody. A little bit of an update in terms of the guys that will be out. Mike Adams should be back, Marcus Benard should be back and Eric Barton should be back and then Kenyon (Coleman) and Baby (Shaun Rogers) will switch. Kenyon down and Baby will be up here today. Everyone else who missed yesterday will miss again today. What we're working on today is the third down package that's the primary emphasis and working on two minute. Third down is an area where we want to continue to move up on both sides of the ball and I think there's specific things that we can do to help that conversion rate on both sides. There are the game plan specific things for Jacksonville and then a few things that we're working on just conceptual things that we like in both areas."

(On if he is still hopeful that Joshua Cribbs will practice this week)- "Yes, we'll get a better sense tomorrow with Josh and Sheldon (Brown)."

(On what Clifton Smith showed in practice yesterday)- "He showed really good short area quickness and even in the tackling drill, it was the first time he had done it, he did a really nice job in terms of closing on the defender and then an excellent change of direction and burst that I thought looked pretty good especially considering it's the first time he's done that drill."

(On if it's easy for kick returns to pick up on different schemes quickly on a new team)- "I'd say conceptually, he's had a lot of reps and seen a lot of different schemes and most of those veteran returner guys have. There are specific things they have to do, things you have to read, everyone has a different way of coaching how they want to read the core blocks in the return. I'd say with experience and having done it quite a bit, it should be pretty fluid for him in terms of picking it up."

(On if Cribbs got hurt when he launched himself or when he landed)- "Not sure. I'm not sure it might have been launch point, I'm guessing."

(On how a lot of guys on the offense launch themselves and if that is the correct way)- "I think it really depends if someone's coming in going to cut your knees to make the tackle and that type of thing and you feel like you got a chance. I could see why they would do it, to avoid the contact. Some guys don't like to do it, some guys do like to do it as an alternative to force the defenders to tackle them in their upper body. There are pluses and minuses for both."

(On if he tells the players to keep their feet on the ground)- "No, I don't tell them that one way or the other. Some of the things that Peyton (Hillis) does in terms of leaping over guys, does now force defenders to tackle him in his upper body and at least now it's a change up for him so they can't always count on being able to get him down in one way."

(On if Eric Steinbach and Floyd Womack are a no for practicing today)- "No today."

(On how he handled missing Steinbach and Womack in practice yesterday)- "(Steve) Vallos worked at left guard and Shawn (Lauvao) worked at right guard. Then some of the practice squad offensive linemen worked in as well, different spots."

(On if Steinbach and Womack will be okay)- "Yes, I'm optimistic both of them will be okay."

(On if Jake Delhomme is going to be healthy enough to be the third quarterback)- "Yes, that's what I expect. He should be okay to be in that role."

(On if Delhomme could be the second quarterback)- "That I don't know yet. We've got to finish out the week. Better than last week, moving better than last week but that I wouldn't really know until a little bit later this week."

(On if he had Reggie Hodges in New York)- "Yes, part of a year."

(On if Hodges is better now than when he was in New York)- "When Reggie came in he had one of the most impressive workouts that I've ever seen. It's not like I've seen a thousand punter workouts but I've seen enough to know what impressive looks like and the hang time, the distance that he had in that workout was just amazing. He had some opportunities and when you're first getting started and getting comfortable and learning all the things you need to learn as a punter, you can't just cut it loose like we were able to see in the workout. As he's gotten more comfortable and confident in that role, I do see continued improvement. Reggie's another guy that works at his craft, he's constantly trying to improve. I've found that most kickers and punters are like that they're just so meticulous and constantly focusing on technique. It must just be consistent with them."

(On what the secret is for all of his punts inside the 10 yard line)- "Some of it is coverage, some of it is just getting a feel for how you have to hit it. I imagine it's like a chip shot, you have to hit it a certain way to get it inside there. I don't really know what exactly it would be."

(On if there are more quarterbacks now that are hard to take down than four or five years ago)- "It seems like we're facing all of them. He is tough to bring down, he buys time, they'll move him out of the pocket with boots and dashes. They have designed runs for him, where he's run option before, quarterback keepers, quarterback draws. I don't know if it's significantly different from four or five years ago, it just feels like we get them every week."

(On what he tells the players when they face these quarterbacks that can break tackles)- "A lot of times you have to tell them to slow down. Those guys want to go so quickly to get the sack. When they're allusive, when they give ground, when they can create some things sometimes you have to slow down to get to where you want as opposed to running in there, trying to take a shot at him and missing him. You see guy after guy after guy do that and that was a little bit of our problem last week. We had to slow down to get the sack as opposed to speed up to get the sack. That's easier said than done, those guys see the quarterback, see the opportunity and the natural reaction is speed up get there as quick as you can, but often times you get there and he's not where you thought he was going to be."

(On if the emphasis on protecting quarterbacks leads to more quarterbacks making plays after contact)- "No, I don't think so. I think a lot of them are very good at feeling where the rush is and giving ground. Some are just their size, a guy like Ben Roethlisberger that's a big man, (David) Garrard that's a big man. It's maybe a combination of things, I don't think it's the rule as much."

(On if he was surprised Mark Sanchez was as elusive as he was because some of the players were)- "I don't know why they were surprised. They shouldn't have been. I really feel it was a function of going too fast and that's what we talked about. I was talking about it with them on the sideline, ‘Look, slow down.' When you get in there under control it's a lot like an open field tackle is if you just take a shot, you're probably not going to get it. You've got to have a good base, be able to react, be able to change direction and then you're going to make the sure sack as opposed to just taking a shot and missing it."

(On if there is a little bit more added to Benjamin Watson now with his increased production than what he remembers)- "No, he had 49 catches in one of those earlier seasons and he's had similar numbers of catches in some other years. He's always had that ability. Why his numbers may have gone down in different years? It could have been a function of the volume of options they had in that offense. I know in getting ready for him in New York, it was an issue and you better have a plan to deal with him because he can make some incredible catches. We've seen a few here but there will be more to come. He makes some unbelievable catches."

(On how Colt McCoy threw some passes to Watson that test whether a rookie quarterback is there yet)- "That's part of it. It's as tough as it gets. We do two minute every Wednesday and we've been doing it since OTAs and you throw that situation up and time goes on the clock and you've got to make those quick decisions, you've got to fit some stuff into tight coverage. You're fighting distance and time so you've got two things that you really have to deal with."

(On Maurice Jones-Drew being a scat back and the challenges of containing him)- "I don't know if I truly look at him as just a scat back. His legs are just thick, he's got really good balance and you see with him when he's on the sideline, he doesn't really go out of bounds. He looks to make contact which is different than some of the backs of similar height. He's rocked up. I showed a clip today where a guy was coming down to make a tackle on the flat after he caught the ball and just bounced off him. Uses the stiff arm well. You can kid yourself if you think he's just sort of an elusive back. He's got good strength, good power, good balance. He's a load."

(On if he is concerned that there could be a letdown facing a team that doesn't have the notoriety that the other teams they recently played) "They're 5-4 so they have a winning record. Just watching them on tape you can see the things that they can do consistently. They've found a way to win tough games which means they are resilient. They're not very highly penalized, disciplined. Really one of the things I've talked and we've talked about in here and even after the New Orleans game, the New England game it's win or lose, being able to move on and focusing on the next one game season. I've seen really positive growth in that area, our ability to do that is ‘Okay, here's the next opponent, here's what we have to do, here's the game plan specific thing and then going out and practicing that and playing at a high level of intensity focus and toughness.' To me that should be week in week out regardless of anything external, regardless of record, regardless of side stories, any of that stuff, it's one consistent level of play. That's when you know you're going as a team is when you do that."

(On if he's seen that concentration during practice)- "I've seen it throughout the course of the season. I thought we had good concentration and focus yesterday coming off the long game like we had and with the number of guys that weren't able to practice a lot of other guys had to step up and fill roles and fill really meaningful roles in practice which is great for them but it's also challenging collectively."

(On how many players had over 100 snaps in a game and how unusual it is in his career)- "I honestly don't know how many had over 100. You're talking with special teams? I actually didn't look at it that way. Defensively, it was 90 something snaps but a lot of the guys that play significant reps on special teams wouldn't have played all 90 reps."

(On if T.J. Ward played 100 snaps)- "He could have been close. I'll check on T.J., it's in that range, he'd be in that range."

(On 90 defensive snaps is unusual)- "Yes, not my favorite. I like 91 offensive snaps for our offense."

(On if he is concerned with the large amount of reps Ward got last Sunday)- "I wouldn't say it's a concern. I think it will help us from a conditioning perspective this week, playing the extra quarter and getting the extra work conditioning-wise. The temperature will be a little bit different there, a little higher. No, especially with a guy like T.J., he looked pretty good yesterday."

(On his thoughts on Jacksonville winning on a last-second pass play where the defender batted the ball into the receiver's hands)- "If it was against you, you'd be depressed. It's the worst where you've played so hard throughout the course of the game and you have the ball go up. If you're on offense, you're elated. With that, he did go to knock it down, but it went that way and you try to have someone there for the shallow tip. For the shallow there's a guy in front that's going to play the ball coming forward and then you try to have a guy behind for what's called the deep tip in case it goes back over the head. You don't always get those guys in those spot, but that's what you're ideally trying to do is have one guy who jumps, one guy in front, one guy behind and sort of the barriers that are matching up man to man with the people they have."

(On if you can still play the ball wrong by knocking it down)- "Really with knocking it down, you want it that way, not that way."

(On if he found something out about McCoy from his play in overtime last Sunday that he may not have known before)- "Steve (Doerschuk), it was the first chance that he had to do that, to bring the team back from being down in a two minute situation and going and tying up the game. That was another one of those firsts that you have to look at, evaluate and he did a really outstanding job with it."

(On how he would characterize the growth McCoy's made from his previous three starts to last Sunday)- "Consistent growth, there's another real challenging defense. A lot of looks, a lot of decisions that he had to make, which I felt he did well with. Now this is a totally different set that he has to face this week and I'm excited to see what he can do there."

(On if McCoy is tough mentally and physically)- "Yes, I'd say that mentally, there's been a lot of pressure that could have been put on him from who he's faced so far and being such a young guy in that role. You wouldn't really know that anything has changed in terms of his personality in the building, the meetings and it's been consistent. He may get angry about missing something that he thinks he should've gotten, but it's not flustered. It's more like, ‘I should've had that,' or ‘I recognize that. I should've gotten that.' He's very under control throughout the course of the game. It's not too high or too low, it's just steady."

(On if McCoy could scrap pretty well physically)- "I don't know if he's going to hang with Matt Roth (joking). Yes, you have to be tough to play that spot. You're going to get hit and you've got to sit in there knowing that you could be hit from behind too. There are a lot of angles that you could get knocked down and it takes some courage to do that."

(On a Cleveland fan allegedly tackling a young Jets fan after the game Sunday)- "I think if it's true, it's ridiculous and the guy should be arrested. I would be sick if someone tackled my kid. My son or daughter at a game, you are going to have a good time. I think it's just wrong on so many levels and I would be angry as a parent, beyond angry. It shouldn't happen anywhere, ever."

(On if John St. Clair has been filling in at right tackle)- "Yes."

12:58 PM

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Possible Nike Pro Combat NFL Unis
Don Delco on November 18th, 2010 AT 12:27 PM

In 2012, the Nike will replace Reebok as the NFL’s official uniforms. With that, the Pro Combat theme will infiltrate the pro ranks.

This season, a handful of college teams have worn these alternate jerseys. Ohio State is scheduled to wear its Pro Combat uniform in next week’s showdown with Michigan.

Through the magic of the world wide web, I found a message board thread on the Baltimore Sun. User “Xohmin” posted the unoffical designs for the NFL’s Pro Combat uniforms.

There is no way to tell if Xohmin’s posts are legit, but it’s always fun to see different takes on the NFL uniforms, especially for the fellow uniform nerds like me.

Of course, my first instinct was to find the Browns uniforms. What in God’s name could these potentially look like? Well, safe to say, Nike didn’t go all “University of Oregon” on the Browns Pro Combat uniforms (allegedly).

To see links to all 32 teams, click here.

As for the Brownies…


10:57 AM

@joycekeo Hillis is good to go. He wasn’t listed on the injury report yesterday.

10:49 AM

Jake will likely be third qb. Depending on practice by end of week might be no. 2.

10:45 AM

Still hopeful about cribbs and sheldon brown. Not practicing today. Adams benard rogers barton practicing thursday.

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One Brown Added to “Hall of Very Good”
Barry McBride on November 18th, 2010 AT 7:08 AM

The Pro Football Researchers Association has a very neat thing they’ve been doing for the last several years, which is announcing a “Hall of Very Good” class. This is a distinction they give to players who are just under the wire for the Hall of Fame, but who were important contributors.

Examples of members include ex-Browns head coach Blanton Collier, and 49ers quarterback John Brodie. This year’s class includes RB Chuck Foreman, who dominated the league for much of the 1970s, but who faded too quickly to make the Hall.

One deserving Brown was named this this year’s class – defensive lineman Bob Gain. Here is his entry from the PRFA:

Bob Gain (Tackle, Middle Guard, End; Cleveland Browns 1952, 1954-1964) — Gain’s excellence at three positions was critical to Cleveland’s success. The 1950 Outland Trophy winner played in Canada in 1951, then after missing most of 1953-54 to the military, was UPI’s second-team all-pro at MG in 1955.  The Browns won the NFL title that year and accomplished a rare defensive trifecta by allowing the fewest points, passing yards and rushing yards. Gain moved to end in 1956, then to tackle in 1957 and was a second-team all-pro both years.

He was rock-solid against the run and often drew double teams. The Browns were first in points allowed in his first four complete seasons and led the NFL in fewest total yards, rushing yards and passing yards numerous times. He received many all-pro honors, was named to five Pro Bowls, and the Browns won three titles in his career.



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