OBR Daily Blog 12/18-19

The 75th Battle of Ohio commences in the Queen City.

Colt McCoy – Post Game Press Conference – 12/19
Dave Kolonich on December 19th, 2010 AT 10:45 PM

On Fourth Down Call – Browns Trying to Draw Bengals Offside:

"We tried to get them to jump offsides. That's pretty much something you work on a lot – trying to get them to jump offsides. We decided to go for it and we jumped offsides. That's just an example of us shooting ourselves in the foot. We did that a lot today and you can't win games when you do that."

On McCoy's Passing Options on Second Sack:

"No. It was a progression read. So, it's across the board. I was protected on the right side. When you start left, you go all the way around. They dropped a guy out into the first two reads and I was going to make the third read and I got hit."

On How Well McCoy was "Seeing Things" After Being Off For a Few Weeks:

"I felt pretty good. Obviously, you don't get a win, so there's a lot of things you think about could have been done better, things you could have seen. But being back, I was seeing it just as well as I when I got hurt.”

On Offense Struggling After First Possession:

"We just got to do a better job staying on the field. We can talk about our defense and talk about how they gave up a hundred yards rushing but a huge part's on us. They ruled the time of possession. They were on the field almost twice as much as else. That goes back to us. We have to convert third downs, stay on the field longer. We have to sustain drives. Those are things that when you have a good drive going, you have to come back on that second drive and capitalize on those same opportunities on the first drive. You can't hit a slump like we did and then try to come back at the end. We were pretty good at making drives at the end of the game…spread them out and throw. We just can't put ourselves in that situation over and over and over.”

On Defensive Attention Paid to Hillis – As Compared to Earlier McCoy Starts:

"That's just total offense. It's not just Peyton. We have to be able to throw the football. We threw the ball pretty well today, but couldn't score. We need to go to back and look at things and see what they are doing. We need to sustain our blocks a little longer if we're not seeing the hole. We‘ve got to play complementary football. Just like Coach Mangini talks about. At times, we do that. When we do, we're pretty effective. When we don't, that's when we get in those slumps. I thought today the offensive line did a pretty nice job in protection. We never had anybody just scat free. We worked on that a lot. We looked at the Cincinnati game before. On the games before, they always got somebody free for a free shot at the quarterback. I thought today we were able to protect pretty good. We had some guys open and we just have to stay on the field.”

On Difference Between How The Team Plays New England and New Orleans Compared to 2-11 and 2-10 Teams:

"It's football. I'm new to it too. I've never been in this position. It's not about me. It's about what can we do to win? What can we do to win division games? We got to win games like this. You have to get hyped up. I thought at the start, we lacked a little bit of energy. We lacked a little bit of intensity. That stems from me, that stems from the older guys on this team, that stems from all of us coming together and playing with a lot of energy and a lot of focus. It's hard to do late in the season. If you want to be a successful football team, you want to play great late in the stretch. That's what you got to do."

On Decision to Kick Field Goal Early in 4th Quarter:

"That play's been our bread and butter. We thought we could have converted on that. Peyton got in the hole and was hit by a couple guys. It's a situation where it's just a gamble. You never know. You never know what going's to happen. We're down two scores. We get two yards, we go ahead and score, we get a field goal, we come back and we have more energy. That was the thinking on that. Certainly, on that third and one, we have the offensive line to make that. We have to do a better job."

On the Three-Linemen, Trips Formation:

"We've been practicing for a couple weeks. They don't have an opportunity to play their deep safeties on that. It gave us a couple different looks. Robert made a spectacular catch on the sideline. I didn't really see it, but I came back to the sidelines and they said he made a great catch. We've been working on that and I was glad that you can take something from practice and work on it for a couple weeks and make it look pretty good in the game.”

On the Protection in the Three-Linemen, Trips Formation:

"It just depends on who they put in the box. There were three linemen in there. So, if they bring four or five guys, someone's going to be free. So, it's not going to be pretty. So the play has to happen fast. There's a couple different reads on it. Right or left or Peyton down the middle. So, there's an open guy, I guess.”

On the Mood of the Team:

"I told the guys after the game I was so proud of the way we came back, kept fighting, back into the game and if we get an onside kick, you never know what happens. So, it shows the character of our football team. Things aren't going well – last week, things aren't going well…this week, we started off okay, but had some opportunities to make plays, but we didn't. But we never quit. We kept fighting up until the end. I think that shows the kind of class these guys have in this locker room. We have two more games to play our hearts out and compete and get better.”

On Ankle Affecting McCoy on Scrambles:

"My ankle felt pretty good honestly. As the game went on, it warmed up a little bit. I was able to escape out of a couple sacks that could have been bad.”

On Heavy and Wet Footballs:

"You just have to adjust to that. Balls were heavy, balls were slick but the other team also has to deal with the same thing. You got to make it work."

On the Robiskie TD Pass:

"They brought us a sure pressure look and late in the game like that, I would rather protect myself than have to throw a hot or take a sack. So I changed protection, I protected it up, then they audibled out of their all-out blitz to a full coverage with a safety over the top. The corner bit on the out route and there was a hole right there. We haven't hit that very much this year, but on a situation like that we were able to capitalize on that.”



12/19
9:56 PM

(Subscriber) McBride: Denying the Inner Tiabbi: Despite a disappointing late season regression, Barry is still i… http://bit.ly/g0jL8B


12/19
9:56 PM

(Subscriber) McBride: Denying the Inner Tiabbi: Despite a disappointing late season regression, Barry is still i… http://bit.ly/g0jL8B


12/19
7:14 PM

Alright, make it 13.7 days. Just long enough to know whether or not Yinzers leave CBS happy or not. @WFNYCraig APOLOGIST!


12/19
7:14 PM

Alright, make it 13.7 days. Just long enough to know whether or not Yinzers leave CBS happy or not. @WFNYCraig APOLOGIST!


12/19
7:14 PM

Alright, make it 13.7 days. Just long enough to know whether or not Yinzers leave CBS happy or not. @WFNYCraig APOLOGIST!


12/19
7:14 PM

Alright, make it 13.7 days. Just long enough to know whether or not Yinzers leave CBS happy or not. @WFNYCraig APOLOGIST!


12/19
6:56 PM

@TheKardiacKid No one likes having a losing record. But I’d give Mangini another 14 days to show they’re going in the right direction


12/19
6:08 PM

@WFNYCraig Enjoy the Browns Season Thrill Ride. Just keep your hands inside the car and remain seated until it pulls to a complete stop.


12/19
6:08 PM

@WFNYCraig Enjoy the Browns Season Thrill Ride. Just keep your hands inside the car and remain seated until it pulls to a complete stop.


12/19
5:44 PM

Fan View: I’ve Seen Enough (Remix!): Jeff B. believes Browns late-season regression proves his point. http://bit.ly/fq739w

Browns-Bengals: Post-Game Notes
Barry McBride on December 19th, 2010 AT 5:33 PM

From the Browns media department…

  • Rookie quarterback Colt McCoy finished 19 of 25 passing for 243 yards with two touchdowns, no interceptions and a 132.6 rating. It was his first career game with multiple touchdown passes as he now has five career touchdown passes. His rating was the second-highest by a Browns rookie, trailing only Charlie Frye’s 136.7 set against Jacksonville in 2005. McCoy’s rating was also the 21st highest ever by a Brown in a single-game and the best since Brady Quinn registered a 133.1 rating last season at Detroit (11/22). McCoy has posted a rating of 100 or better in two of his six career starts.
  • McCoy’s 76 percent completion percentage was the highest by a Browns quarterback this season.
  • Tight end Benjamin Watson tallied a game-high seven receptions for 92 yards. With 674 receiving yards on the season, Watson joins Milt Morin, Ozzie Newsome and Kellen Winslow as the only Browns tight ends to reach 600 receiving yards in a season. Watson’s 674 yards this season also surpasses his previous best of 643 set in 2006, as a member of the New England Patriots.
  • Wide receiver Brian Robiskie totaled a career-high 82 receiving yards on five receptions, including a 46-yard touchdown reception, the first of his career.
  • Rookie defensive back T.J. Ward recorded eight tackles and leads the club with 96 on the season. The last rookie to lead the Browns in tackles was linebacker Wali Rainer in 1999.
  • Ward also leads the club with 18 special teams tackles, including two today. No player has led the Browns in both defensive and special teams tackles since their return in 1999.
  • The Browns took the game’s opening possession 75 yards on six plays, capped off by a 20-yard touchdown pass from Colt McCoy to tight end Robert Royal. It was Royal’s first touchdown since the season opener last year and the 14th score of his career.
  • Defensive lineman Ahtyba Rubin registered a game-high and career-best 10 tackles surpassing his previous high of nine set twice.
  • With two receptions today, running back Peyton Hillis has recorded a team-leading 59 this season which is tied for seventh most all-time by a Browns running back. Greg Pruitt holds the team record for catches by a running back with 65 set in 1981.
  • Linebacker Matt Roth notched a career-high nine tackles, surpassing his previous best of eight which he accomplished twice previously.
  • Defensive lineman Kenyon Coleman collected a season-high nine tackles today.  His previous best was eight stops on November 14 against the Jets.
  • The Browns were called for three penalties today and have registered just 34 in their last nine contests (3.8 average).
  • Cleveland has shut out its opponent in the first quarter of each of the last three games as the Browns have allowed just 26 first quarter points all season. Over the last eight games, Cleveland has outscored its opponents 54-13 in the opening frame.
  • With five punts today, Reggie Hodges registered two inside the 10 yard line and no touchbacks. He has 15 punts inside the 10 this season. Over the last nine games, he has totaled 19 punts inside the 20 and no touchbacks. His last touchback was in Week 5 on October 10 against Atlanta.
  • Defensive back Sheldon Brown has appeared in all 142 regular season games in his career, which began with Philadelphia in 2002. His streak is the second-longest among all active defensive backs, trailing only Tampa Bay’s Ronde Barber.
  • Offensive lineman Joe Thomas has started all 62 career games at left tackle and has not missed an offensive snap since joining the Browns as the third overall pick in the 2007 draft.
  • Wide receiver Demetrius Williams made his Browns debut today. He joined the club on October 26 as a free agent as was inactive the previous six contests.



12/19
5:14 PM

Browns Get Clawed: 19-17: Cleveland lets another 2-win team eke out a win down in Cincinnati. Fred Greetham was … http://bit.ly/e6gT6t


12/19
5:14 PM

Browns Get Clawed: 19-17: Cleveland lets another 2-win team eke out a win down in Cincinnati. Fred Greetham was … http://bit.ly/e6gT6t


12/19
5:09 PM

RT @CoraxSays Brad Smith From Chaney High School In Youngstown Just Ran Back The Opening Kick Off Against Pittspuke…


12/19
3:57 PM

@johndgarden @HungarianWolf Let the debate begin. I think the Browns thin depth chart at DL got them today, but Mangini is likely done now.


12/19
3:55 PM

@axismg @WFNYScott The buzz around Ryan has a lot to do with his brother’s success. People always wonder if it can be cloned.


12/19
3:53 PM

Bengals get a first down and then sit on the clock. Game over. BENGALS 19, BROWNS 17. FINAL.


12/19
3:45 PM

Browns try an onside kick, Bengals recover at the Browns 44. Two minute warning with the Bengals on the Browns 40, second and six.


12/19
3:42 PM

Browns drive 5 plays, 88 yards. Bengals fans can be excused if they have a feeling of deja vu. Up to the Browns defense now.


12/19
3:41 PM

Tremendous catch by Brian Robiskie on the sidelines results in a 46 yard TOUCHDOWN!!! Great play! BENGALS 19, BROWNS 17 2:13 left.


12/19
3:40 PM

Ben Watson coming to the fore in the clutch… second reception in this drive puts the Browns at the Bengals 46, 2:25 left.


12/19
3:40 PM

Ben Watson coming to the fore in the clutch… second reception in this drive puts the Browns at the Bengals 46, 2:25 left.


12/19
3:40 PM

Ben Watson coming to the fore in the clutch… second reception in this drive puts the Browns at the Bengals 46, 2:25 left.


12/19
3:40 PM

Ben Watson coming to the fore in the clutch… second reception in this drive puts the Browns at the Bengals 46, 2:25 left.


12/19
3:36 PM

Browns stop the Bengals on third down and the Browns will get the ball back. 4:29 left with a Bengal injured on the field. BENGALS 19-10.


12/19
3:36 PM

Browns stop the Bengals on third down and the Browns will get the ball back. 4:29 left with a Bengal injured on the field. BENGALS 19-10.


12/19
3:33 PM

@BunGunny Most of the votes were prior to today’s game. The gap has closed in the second half: http://cle.scout.com/2/1032513.html


12/19
3:33 PM

@BunGunny Most of the votes were prior to today’s game. The gap has closed in the second half: http://cle.scout.com/2/1032513.html


12/19
3:24 PM

@saveallunicorns Our defensive tackles look worn down… Browns need DL depth badly.


12/19
3:23 PM

Bengals drive ends inside the ten. They answer the Browns chip shot field goal with one of their own. BENGALS 19, BROWNS 10, 9:58 4Q.


12/19
3:19 PM

Eric Wright (knee) questionable return.


12/19
3:18 PM

Bengals run a screen pass for 53 yards. Now at the Browns 20. 13:08 left.


12/19
3:17 PM

A keep/dump poll on Mangini is running 85%-15% to keep him. Agree? Disagree? Vote in our live chat room: http://cle.scout.com


12/19
3:15 PM

Bengals at their 26 with a second and four. Eric Wright is injured and being attended to. 14:00 4Q.


12/19
3:15 PM

Bengals at their 26 with a second and four. Eric Wright is injured and being attended to. 14:00 4Q.


12/19
3:15 PM

Bengals at their 26 with a second and four. Eric Wright is injured and being attended to. 14:00 4Q.


12/19
3:13 PM

@mjretchless24 The Ryan approach is fun, chaotic, but I don’t think it will wear well from a head coach. Witness the Alosi thing last week.


12/19
3:13 PM

@mjretchless24 The Ryan approach is fun, chaotic, but I don’t think it will wear well from a head coach. Witness the Alosi thing last week.


12/19
3:13 PM

@mjretchless24 The Ryan approach is fun, chaotic, but I don’t think it will wear well from a head coach. Witness the Alosi thing last week.


12/19
3:11 PM

Browns can’t convert a third and inches, settle for a field goal from the four. BENGALS 16, BROWNS 10, 14:06 4Q


12/19
3:11 PM

Browns can’t convert a third and inches, settle for a field goal from the four. BENGALS 16, BROWNS 10, 14:06 4Q


12/19
3:11 PM

Browns can’t convert a third and inches, settle for a field goal from the four. BENGALS 16, BROWNS 10, 14:06 4Q


12/19
3:10 PM

Bengals lead 75th Battle of Ohio at half: Bengals offense dominating Browns defense and take 10-7 lead into halftime. http://bit.ly/fsD62p


12/19
3:10 PM

Bengals lead 75th Battle of Ohio at half: Bengals offense dominating Browns defense and take 10-7 lead into halftime. http://bit.ly/fsD62p


12/19
3:10 PM

Bengals lead 75th Battle of Ohio at half: Bengals offense dominating Browns defense and take 10-7 lead into halftime. http://bit.ly/fsD62p


12/19
3:07 PM

Hillis run for 20 and a 18 yard pass to Watson has the Browns driving. At the Bengals 4, as the third quarter ends. BENGALS 16, BROWNS 7


12/19
3:00 PM

@Swarner23 Lack of ability to run wide is why I scratched my head about dumping Jerome Harrison.


12/19
2:59 PM

@mjretchless24 It doesn’t matter how clever your schemes are when your front seven is just getting flat-out beat.


12/19
2:59 PM

@mjretchless24 It doesn’t matter how clever your schemes are when your front seven is just getting flat-out beat.


12/19
2:59 PM

@mjretchless24 It doesn’t matter how clever your schemes are when your front seven is just getting flat-out beat.


12/19
2:59 PM

Bengals drive to the Browns 16, settle again for a field goal. BENGALS 16, BROWNS 7. 3:33 3Q.


12/19
2:59 PM

Bengals drive to the Browns 16, settle again for a field goal. BENGALS 16, BROWNS 7. 3:33 3Q.


12/19
2:59 PM

Bengals drive to the Browns 16, settle again for a field goal. BENGALS 16, BROWNS 7. 3:33 3Q.


12/19
2:59 PM

Bengals drive to the Browns 16, settle again for a field goal. BENGALS 16, BROWNS 7. 3:33 3Q.


12/19
2:54 PM

Benson 19 carries for 106 yards. Third 100-yard game of the season.


12/19
2:54 PM

Benson 19 carries for 106 yards. Third 100-yard game of the season.


12/19
2:54 PM

Benson 19 carries for 106 yards. Third 100-yard game of the season.


12/19
2:54 PM

Benson 19 carries for 106 yards. Third 100-yard game of the season.


12/19
2:50 PM

A sack on Colt McCoy creates a three-and-out. Bengals take over on their 47, 8:59 3Q.


12/19
2:50 PM

A sack on Colt McCoy creates a three-and-out. Bengals take over on their 47, 8:59 3Q.


12/19
2:50 PM

A sack on Colt McCoy creates a three-and-out. Bengals take over on their 47, 8:59 3Q.


12/19
2:50 PM

A sack on Colt McCoy creates a three-and-out. Bengals take over on their 47, 8:59 3Q.


12/19
2:45 PM

Bengals drive to the 21 and settle for a 39-yard field goal. BENGALS 13, BROWNS 7, 11:11 3Q.


12/19
2:45 PM

Bengals drive to the 21 and settle for a 39-yard field goal. BENGALS 13, BROWNS 7, 11:11 3Q.


12/19
2:43 PM

Bengals at the 27. Big difference today in third down success between the Bengals and Browns. They’re 4-for-6, Browns are 1-for-4


12/19
2:41 PM

Thanks to Don for filling in while my family performed an intervention. Bengals at the Browns 46 with a third and seven. 13:57 3Q


12/19
2:41 PM

Thanks to Don for filling in while my family performed an intervention. Bengals at the Browns 46 with a third and seven. 13:57 3Q


12/19
2:41 PM

Thanks to Don for filling in while my family performed an intervention. Bengals at the Browns 46 with a third and seven. 13:57 3Q


12/19
2:40 PM

Owens not expected to return for Cincy. Left knee injury.


12/19
2:40 PM

Owens not expected to return for Cincy. Left knee injury.


12/19
2:40 PM

Owens not expected to return for Cincy. Left knee injury.


12/19
2:33 PM

Bengals’ rushing success coming away from Matt Roth.


12/19
2:33 PM

2 first downs in the Second Quarter. Shades of last week.


12/19
2:31 PM

Because of the late second quarter twilight zone scenario, I have elected to spend halftime curled up in a fetal position. I need a puppy.


12/19
2:31 PM

Because of the late second quarter twilight zone scenario, I have elected to spend halftime curled up in a fetal position. I need a puppy.


12/19
2:26 PM

Per our Twitter feed, Browns fans are confused about how the penalties on the first fourth down attempt offset and why we punted. Me too.


12/19
2:25 PM

My apologies for the lack of explanation on the Brown long and involved effort to convert a fourth down. It left me confused and afraid.


12/19
2:23 PM

Nice drive for the Browns decays into chaos, time outs, penalties, confusion, etc. on 4th down. Browns punt, half ends, Bengals lead 10-7


12/19
2:11 PM

Two minute warning. Browns in Bengals territory. First and ten at the Bengals 36. Bengals lead 10-7.


12/19
2:04 PM

Bengals drive stalls at the 7. Stallers hits a 25-yard field goal. BENGALS 10, BROWNS 7, 4:19 2Q.


12/19
1:58 PM

Bengals driving again at the Browns 33. Key play is a 16-yard pass to Ochocinco. Bengals O-line simply beating Browns front seven. 8:07 2Q


12/19
1:50 PM

Browns go three and out. Bengals at the 25 with 11:46 left in the half. BROWNS 7, BENGALS 7.


12/19
1:42 PM

Benson getting his wish (the ball) and a touchdown. He runs for an 18 yard TD. BROWNS 7, BENGALS 7. 12:52 2Q.


12/19
1:37 PM

End of the first quarter. Bengals have a second and five at the Browns 45. BROWNS 7, BENGALS 0.


12/19
1:36 PM

Bengals driving again. Now at mid-field, 1:27 left in the first. Browns lead 7-0.


12/19
1:32 PM

Terrell Owens has left the game for the Bengals due to a left knee injury.


12/19
1:31 PM

Browns drive to the Bengals 40, but fall short on a third down pass. Bengals ball at their 9, 4:07 1Q, BROWNS 7, BENGALS 0


12/19
1:30 PM

Terrell Owens’ (knee) return questionable.


12/19
1:25 PM

Bengals move it to the Browns 28. Go for it on fourth-and-ten. Fail. An elegant metaphor for their 2010 season. Browns at their 40, 7:27 1Q


12/19
1:08 PM

Browns move Thomas and St. Clair wide (that’s right) and McCoy throws a 20 TD pass to Royal! Wow! BROWNS 7, BENGALS 0 12:08 1Q


12/19
1:03 PM

We’re off and running at spacious Paul Brown Stadium. Browns win the toss. Cribbs runs it back to the 27.


12/19
12:25 PM

@reverendvargo Don’t blame me, blame Don. He’s the uniform nerd. I’m the general purpose nerd.


12/19
12:15 PM

Former Browns OT Kirk Chambers among the Bengals inactives.


12/19
12:15 PM

Browns inactives: WR Norwood, QB Delhomme, WR Mitchell, DB Francies, DL Sanford, TE Moore, DL Mitchell, LB Fujita.


12/19
12:14 PM

Hey fellow uniform nerds, Browns in all white today. Bungals all black.


12/19
12:07 PM

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12/19
12:07 PM

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12/19
11:37 AM

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12/18
10:26 PM

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12/18
7:22 PM

Browns have officially designated Evan Moore and Scott Fujita as “out” for Sunday’s game against Cincinnati.


12/18
6:52 PM

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12/18
4:50 PM

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12/18
4:50 PM

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12/18
1:46 PM

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The Numbers Game: Joe Haden Edition
Dave Kolonich on December 18th, 2010 AT 12:43 PM

Longtime readers who have been exposed to both my occasional insightful articles and/or typing skills already know my disdain for stat-driven commentary.  Call it the plague of fantasy football, but relying merely on statistics to determine an NFL player's worth is perhaps the most narrow-minded form of evaluation.

Or, did you know that Cincinnati's Carson Palmer has thrown for nearly 3,200 yards and 21 touchdowns this season?

Pretty good numbers….at least until you realize that he has also had three separate three-interception games, along with about a dozen more passes that should have been picked off.

And of course, his Bengals have dropped ten straight games.

Anyway, despite my crotchety views on all things numbers, I am kind of a hypocrite.  After all, it's not that often that the Browns feature a 1,000 yard rusher – or even two receivers who boast more than 50 catches.

However, in terms of stats that represent the actual reality of the game, there's probably no better source than ProFootballFocus.com.

To sum up what the staff of ProFootballFocus.com actually does, check out the following link.

Fanhouse – ProFootballFocus – How Do They Put Their Numbers Together?

While it's not a perfect process, at least all players on the field are thoroughly evaluated – and not through fantasy-esque stats.

Which means that the following is nothing but impressive….

ProFootballFocus.com – Race For Rookie of The Year: Sam's Slippage

2. Joe Haden, CB, Browns (+13.9)

The more you see of Haden the more he impresses you. Up to fourth overall in our cornerback rankings, he didn't pick off a pass against Buffalo but broke one up and allowed 2 yards. Last week: 2nd

Although much of Haden's recent publicity can be attributed to his four-game interception streak, these rankings reflect his overall value to the Browns' defense.

Beyond the interceptions, Haden has helped to solidify the Browns' secondary – simply by proving to be a reliable cover corner.  Although he's had his moments where he has to rely on his speed to catch up with an opposing receiver, it's obvious that his range, playmaking ability and solid tackling skills have been a huge contribution to a still shaky secondary.

Or in terms of value that cannot be determined by numbers, just think of where this secondary would be without Haden. 

Although Eric Wright's 2010 slump has been a bit overblown by the local media this season, it's clear that both his confidence and overall play has regressed.  Add in the nearly Herculean effort given by veteran Sheldon Brown – who has been severely banged up throughout the season – and Haden's importance cannot be overstated.

Simply put, Haden has been the glue of the team's secondary.

But if numbers are still your thing, Haden's 2010 totals rival that of Green Bay's Tramon Williams – who is arguably having the best season of any league corner – as well as the premiere talents of Darrelle Revis and Nnmadi Asomugah.  In comparison to his fellow rookie corners, Haden's production is comparable to New England's Devin McCourty and light years ahead of the Jets' Kyle Wilson.

Either way, it looks like we struck gold last April.

 



12/18
12:16 PM

@stevesirk Got it. Expect to the world to be pattied today.

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Transcript: Brian Daboll, 12/17
Barry McBride on December 18th, 2010 AT 12:27 AM

Browns Offensive Coordinator Brian Daboll press conference 12-17-10

(On how the offense will be different this week with Colt McCoy at quarterback)- “It seems like we have this talk every few weeks (joking).  He has specific plays that he really likes to run, but in terms of the overall package, the check with mes, the run/run checks, the pass/run checks, the run/pass checks, those won’t change.  When we had Jake (Delhomme) in there, he has run the no huddle.  Colt has been in and out of it, so he can do both.”

(On him getting criticism about his play calling after last week’s game)- “That’s why we are in this game, the fans make this game.  I’d put myself under considerable fire if we put up six points.  You go out there, you grind it out and you get ready for the next game.  We better (darn) sure try to put up more than six points.”

(On what he would do differently in last week’s game)- “We definitely had some chances.  We definitely had some chances in the red zone to score some points.  Just the two times we were down there, we could have made a huge difference and we didn’t get it done.  Then our third down production was just terrible, it wasn’t good.  We were in third and manageable situations, so third down improvement definitely.”

(On why they struggled on third last week when Peyton Hillis has had success previously)- “You’re in that third and three, third and four and third and five yard range.  You get tight man to man coverage and need to work our crossers.  We got hit a couple of times, all of us just didn’t do a good enough job on third down.  I think that was one of the main things for this past game was two down in the red zone and third down.  We were running the ball and getting positive yards on first down, and then we got to third down and weren’t getting it done.”

(On if he wanted to go for it on fourth down on their opening possession last game)- “Oh that’s up to Eric (Mangini).  Whatever Eric wants to do.”

(On if that is Coach Mangini’s decision and if he discusses it with him)- Yes, we will talk about it, but at the end of the day, it’s his decision.  What he chooses is what we go with.”

(On if they thought they were going to be able to run all game on Buffalo last week based on the success they had on their first possession)- “I think that the running game average was pretty good throughout the day.  I think the main portion of the game, at least offensively, was third downs.  It really was.  Throwing it, catching it and protecting and getting open, we need to do a better job on third down.  We are going to have to this week.”

(On if their yards per carry average last game was really telling of how well they actually ran the ball throughout the game)- “Efficiency-wise in the running game throughout the whole day, it was pretty high efficient runs.  Four yards or more or third and one runs, it was a fairly high number after the game when you look at it.  Again, I would say our third down was our Achilles’ heel.”

(On if he could have tried more packages with Seneca Wallace and Joshua Cribbs)- “Yes, in hindsight.  If you’re whatever we were on third down, you’d like to try a bunch of different things.”

(On why Wallace handed it off to Hillis both times he was in)- “It was a play we’ve seen hit against them a few times, just the blocking scheme in general was a little wrap-type play. We just added a little boot with it for Seneca to try to hold the end a little bit more than say Jake (could).  Just to widen them out a little bit and give us a little crease.  Those two plays that they were in there, I think were 25 and eight (yards).  The second time, they played it pretty well, they played the play well.  (Chris) Kelsay did a nice job, he saw it the first time when he creased him early on.  The second time, we came back and he played it well.  He squeezed it real hard and it was just the guys making a play because they played it pretty well.  Peyton bore it up in there. Alex (Mack) did a good job, but he kind of ran through Kyle Williams for some extra yards.”

(On the decision to start Colt McCoy the last three games of the season)- “Eric, we talked a little bit and he said, ‘I’m going to go with Colt,’ and I’m all aboard.  I think the times that he’s been in there, he’s done a good job.  He’s got that youthful exuberance about him.  I’m excited.”

(On what should people expect to see differently out of McCoy from the first few games he started)- “I don’t know if you’ll see a big huge difference, he’s a pretty consistent guy in terms of everything he does.  He’s good with his feet, he’s good with the time clock in his head, his rhythm.  I’m sure he’ll have some anxious butterflies in his stomach coming back out and playing.  He’s only played five games in his entire career.  I know he’s excited about the opportunity again.”

(On what it’s like to keep having different quarterbacks starting)- “It is what it is.  They’re out there, you’ve got to get used to just even in practice from one week to the next if someone’s in there differently, it’s just the cadence factor, just start with that.  His voice inflection, how he says the hard count then just getting the snap.  I know it’s the basic play of football but it’s a little bit different.  Then on top of that maybe a certain play here they do not feel comfortable with or this guy does something different, so it’s different.  On top of that the receivers, they’re throwing with a guy for a couple weeks over and over again and now it’s the next time and you’ve just got to try to get the best rhythm that you can.”

(On if that stunts what he can do as an offensive coordinator)- “No, I’m not going to make excuses. You just have to play the hand you’re dealt.”

(On if he has maximized the potential with this group of players)- “No, I’m not going to say that. Got to do a better job, try to win more games.”

(On if there are games that he reflects on what he could have done better after losses)- “I think you do that regardless if you win or lose after every game.  You try to do as much as you can do and you take a look, you review the tape, you go through it with the players. Everybody’s accountable and that’s the way you deal with it.  I’m in charge of it so I’ll accept it.”

(On if he worries he will take the fall for things that have happened this season)- “I take care of what I have to take care of for the next week and that’s the approach that I’ve taken and that’s the approach that I’ll take.  Bust my (tail) this week, go down to Cincinnati with Colt and the rest of the guys and try to get a win, put up more than six points.”

(On if they are helping Peyton Hillis try to hang on to the ball better)- “You constantly are stressing ball security and Gary Brown, his coach, does a good job and he’s played in the league a while.  Those guys work after, different types of drills for ball security whether it’s the ropes, whether they’re falling on the way down.  He’s such a hardnosed runner that he’s trying to fight for every extra yard and a lot of the balls have come out when he’s been going down toward the ground and they’ve been popping them out.  With all our skill players you put more emphasis on it but he’s had a few of them.”

(On his ability to be an offensive coordinator)- “The only thing that I’m focused on is this week.  I’m going to grind out, all of us are going to grind out the entire staff, the players and we’ll give everything we have. We’re going to try to put some puts up on the board against Cincinnati this week.”

(On if Hillis has to adjust to teams adjusting for him and Jairus Byrd saying he planned for the hurdle)- “He can say that, if he would have lowered his shoulder and ran over him he could have said that too.  He made a nice play on it.  Everybody’s got access to all the film in the league each week whether it’s him or somebody else and you try to take advantage of looking at it and seeing some type of tendency.  The guy, they made a nice play on him when he hit it up in the air.  There’s plenty of tape on him too putting his shoulder through a couple of people and trying to run them over.  I think it goes either way.  Each week the main thing that you’ve got to do as a ball carrier is secure the ball.  He’s working on it, I’ve got faith in him.”

(On if Eric Steinbach is having a Pro Bowl season)- “He’s been pretty consistent for us.  I don’t study it that way. He’s been a pretty consistent guy for us throughout the year good communicator, has made some nice plays, any of those types of things.”

(On if Steinbach is doing anything better than he was doing last year)- “I think he plays with his hands better.  I think Hop (George Warhop) has done a good job with him.  Plays with a little bit lower base, he’s been firmer in the pocket for us.  I think he’s improved from the year that we got here, yes.”

(On how key Steinbach is in the successful of their ‘bread and butter run play’ to Hillis)- “He pulls and we ran it twice against the Bills in short yardage and one was with (Mike) Bell actually. We got both of them.  He’s really good at that play for us.”

(On if Steinbach is underrated at pulling)- “I can’t tell you if he is underrated or overrated I know he’s a good puller both on his side or if he is coming across the ball.  He’s got good athletic movement skills for a guard.”


Transcript: Rob Ryan, 12/17
Barry McBride on December 18th, 2010 AT 12:26 AM

Browns Defensive Coordinator Rob Ryan press conference 12-17-10

(On if Cincinnati is a dangerous team)- “Yes, if you just watch the tape and you don’t have a newspaper to tell you what they are, they have a very high powered offense, they’ve got obviously great receivers and a great quarterback and that offensive line is playing well.  They’re big, strong guys.  (Andrew) Whitworth sounds like he’s finally getting his just do.  I think he’s one of the finer players in football.  It’s a great test any time you play these guys.  They have the ability to score anywhere on the field as we saw that our first game.  Plus the quarterback he can get red hot and that’s a long hard day if that happens.”

(On if they are going to switch up their approach toward Chad Ochocinco this game)- “You hope Christmas coming early with that guy not being on the injury report, bad foot, but I’m not believing it.  We always take him away.  To me I think he’s the best receiver in football and I’ll always believe that so he’s always going to have a hard long day against us because it would take more than some injury report to convince me that guy’s not great and we’re just going to take him away every time.”

(On Terrell Owens catching 10 catches for 222 yards in the first meeting)- “We don’t want him to catch that many this time, that 80 yarder helped him.  We’re going to make it a much tougher day on him.  He’s back to his old self playing like T.O. we just needed some convincing and believe me, we believe now.  He’s not going to have the same day he had last time that’s for sure.”

(On if it is going to make a difference with Joe Haden in the starting lineup)- “I think Joe Haden, the way he’s playing that’s definitely going to make a difference.  That’s the real Joe Haden.  I think we had the young one early in the season and he still played pretty well in that game.  This one here is up for a challenge.  If it was up to him he would stay out there in man coverage all day long.  It’s not up to him right now but wow what a player.”

(On how he blocks out thinking about his coaching future)- “I’m so used to it.  I’ve been so used to it for so long now it just seems like it’s part of this job this time of year.  When I was in New England it was, ‘Well, you’ve got to go coordinate here, got to go do that thing,’ then when I was coordinating Oakland it was like, ‘Oh God, you guys are going to get fired,’ or whatever.  Here this year it seems like it’s in between both.  Bottom line is we just work as hard as we can.  I think we had a really good week of preparation as far as coaching and our players are working hard during practice.  We demand a lot this week from our coaches and really excited about us playing this week.”

(On if the staff’s job depends on the last three weeks of the season)- “I don’t know, if it does then (heck) I hope we win all three of them.  I’m not sure. I don’t make those decisions.  You know me, I have a lot of confidence in myself but the way I look at it rightfully so.  I’ll work in this business, I like it here in Cleveland, we don’t want to move, (heck) we shouldn’t have to move if we go out here and take care of business like we should.  This is our conference, this is exciting.  I think the way the commissioner did the schedule this year is pretty exciting for everybody.  We’ve got our conference and there’s not a better measuring stick than going out and playing these guys at the end of the year.  However it comes out I’ll be great with it.  I’m sure there are other people nervous but I’m not a guy that’s nervous, not anymore.  When I first got in the league I’d be scared (senseless) but not now.  Now it’s like please, there is nobody better.  I don’t care.  I’m going to coach my (tail) off, I’m going to prepare our team. I’m going to prepare it better than anybody else does on Sunday.  I’ve been doing that all year now, we can look that up, that’s documented.”

(On why Eric Mangini deserves to stay)- “I think this is a different team now from when we first got here, there weren’t a whole lot of believers other than me and a couple other guys probably. I’m usually pretty optimistic.  I think it’s obvious, our team is a good football team.  Last week pisses me off because we should have beat that team.  We’ve got to get through those days of, ‘Oh, we should have won,’ those days suck. We don’t want those anymore.  We just need to kick the door in and win those games.  I really thought we had come along and started doing that.  When you beat Miami and you beat Carolina and the few teams that haven’t had a winning record on our schedule or being in first place, whatever they are, you need to beat those teams.  I think we’re capable of that.  It’s a little disappointing, it really is.  I know our guys are working hard but when you looked at the tape it’s surprising that I thought the other team played better than we did.  That’s not right.  The last 51 yards of that game rushing were all on me, wasn’t on our players.  I know statistically it looks like our run defense weren’t worth a (thing) but that’s not true.  It’s like 3.6 a carry or whatever.  Third down I went for the win, thought we’d load a zone over there and see if we couldn’t pick this guy off.  They ran a counter which is a nice play by (Chan) Gailey against that defense and that led our guys stiff and they’re not used to me making a bad call so that kind of deflated the whole team there.  We gave up those 50 yards rushing, they were all on me and they need to put a stat over there that that never really happened.  It pissed me off and our guys played too hard to have that, it just didn’t look right.”

(On if they were hurting for bodies on defense with so many players injured towards the end of the game)-“Yes but that’s the Cleveland way.  Whoever we’ve got, man we’re going to play.  We’ve got good, tough guys, we really do.  They just line up and sometimes you’ve got to check the roster to find out their names.  Please don’t ask me to pronounce that new guy that we got, but we’ve got tough guys.  We know what we’re in the building for.  We’ve got smart, tough guys with high character.  Like I said before, I really like this team.  I like the way it has been assembled.  I believe in what we do here and I know our players do.  That’s the most important thing is when you’re talking in front of the players and everybody is obviously disappointed, especially last week.  Each week is like its own little season and we want to do better.  We’ve challenged ourselves, we want to be the best, we want to be in the top five in turnovers and scoring defense and red zone and that’s what we are going to do. That would be a pretty good accomplishment for a young group that’s together.  I know we’ve have got some older guys, but it is still only in our second year.”

(On settling for field goals in games instead of going for touchdowns and having the mentality to blowout weaker teams)- “I understand your thinking.  Really the records though, there are not necessarily weak teams.  When you play in this league, you don’t get blowouts.  It would be great to say, “Oh, we are going to line up and kick the (crap) out of somebody.’  That doesn’t happen. That only happens in college.  In pro football, whether you want it or not, you are going to get a close game.  Both teams are going to be well-coached, both teams have got the best athletes in the world and that’s why they are so close every week.  The big blowouts, you don’t see them.  Even the great New England Patriots or the New Orleans Saints or whoever else is the hot team, they don’t blow everybody out every week either.  It really is going to come down to a close game every week.  Do you always go for the touchdown or always go for the field goal?  That’s the head coach’s decision.  Right now, I’m just trying to farm my own land and coach the defense.  You pretty much get a close game every week and again, I’m looking for three close games here at the end of the season in our division and I’m looking to win all three of them.”

(On why Carson Palmer has thrown so many interceptions this season)- “I’m not sure.  He’s still a great quarterback and he’s still got the big arm.  He does a lot of things and you never know.  Sometimes guys, and I don’t care who you are, sometimes there is pressure to play a guy, maybe to throw a guy more passes than you are comfortable doing.  If the coverage is taking a guy away and the playmakers want the ball all of the time, I could see that.  That’s just being human.  Maybe he’s going through some of that, but really I see a guy that’s in control, I see a guy that’s a winner, I see a guy that can just drop back there and can throw it and win a game on his own.  He’s still an annoying scrambler where he makes plays, and we know that better than anybody at the end of a game.  He’ll make a play with his feet and we know we are going to have to be at our best.  I really want to be at our best here.  To me, at the end of the year, I want us to be going in the right direction.  Like I said, I want to finish as one of the top defenses in football, which was our goal all along.  We have had a lot of players play, but really when they are out there, it’s the Cleveland Browns’ defense.  It’s time to show up.  I know last week wasn’t ideal for us, I thought we would get more turnovers.  Their quarterback did a nice job of handing the ball off, but when he did throw it I thought we had some chances.  We have got to make plays.  Great defenses get turnovers, they get stops when you need them to and that’s what we want to do.”

(On the situation last week with New York Jets coach Sal Alosi)- “That’s unfortunate.  I’ll just speak for me and I know my twin brother pretty well, there are not two guys that respect the league more than we do and love the players more than we do.  It was unfortunate to see something happen like that because obviously you are going to tie the head coach into it.  Believe me, Rex (Ryan) would never do that.  He loves the game, he loves to compete and that didn’t look right.  I’m sure their strength coach, who is supposed to be a great guy and feels terrible.  He probably made one mistake, (heck) I think we have all made bad mistakes before, I just don’t know if millions of people have seen them.  That was a bad mistake though, that’s a bad judgment.  Boy, you hate to see that.  I just know the head coach over there pretty well, like really well, and he was very upset about it.  He doesn’t like that.  He’s not an advocate of that (stuff), nobody is.  We love the game, we love getting after other team’s players, but we respect them and we love our own.”

(On if there is something still dangerous about Cincinnati despite their record)- “With our defense, obviously there is a huge danger.  They put about 400 and some odd yards on us.  They can move the ball at will with a great quarterback.  Again, you don’t have the records when you roll it out there.  The only people that see those records are the people that are looking in the newspaper going, “Look the Browns have won whatever games and these guys have only won two.’  You don’t see that on the tape, this is a good football team on offense.  Now I don’t look at defense and I’m sure they’re great.  They have got Ross Browner and Bill Bergey and all of those guys probably.  Lemar Parrish, Kenny Riley, Tommy Casanova, but if they are all out there then we have got to beat them.  I know on offense, they’ve got their good players and that (Bob) Bratkowski is 1,000 years old and he does a good job with their offense.  We are looking forward to the matchup.  We want to play better than we did and we want to win.  We were fortunate enough that Peyton Hillis ran wild, but we want to do our part to add in the win.”

(On differences in Cincinnati’s running game from last season to this season)- “They were explosive last year running the football.  I think they ran the ball a little more than they are now, but (Cedric) Benson is still a (heck) of a back.  He runs that ball hard, he’s real close to 1,000 yards this year again.  We know they will be at their best.  He reminds me a lot of (Fred) Jackson.  Jackson made a lot of big plays on us last week, but again, I added about 50 yards on to that.  We are going to be better than that, I’m going to be better than that and not put the game in my hands and then call a play that’s not as good as it should have been.”

(On if there are some things that are beyond their control when planning to stop an opponent)- “It’s the National Football League. Sometimes you can have a guy unblocked on the player and their player makes a play.  That happens.  That’s why you play, we have got human beings playing against human beings and I think we are well prepared.  That’s why you prepare them so hard, so that the game slows down so you can make a good split-second decision and an accurate one.  Still, some of those times their X & O makes a play on ours.  I really like our defensive talent, I really do and we win most of those matchups.  Every once in a while, we might lose one of those, but we win most of them.  That’s for sure.”

(On Chris Gocong’s play last week)- “I think that Gocong is a (heck) of a player.  Matt Eberflus, you know I brag about my Matt Eberflus, but that guy is a phenomenal coach.  Gocong needs it.  Here’s a guy that came inside, I don’t know what he did in Philadelphia, I don’t care.  What he does for us, he’s playing 3-4 inside linebacker, which is probably the hardest position to play in football.  I guess the quarterback is pretty hard I guess, I don’t know.  This guy has got everything going, he has made unbelievable strides, he’s a tough guy, he’s big, he’s fast and the game looks like it’s Cal-Poly all over now.  It’s slowing down, he’s starting to dominate and I think he’s going to be one of those Pro Bowl players once he finally does learn this system.  He’s on his way and again, a lot of that credit goes to Matt Eberflus certainly and Phil Eisenstein has helped him out a little bit too.”

(On if he has been surprised with T.J. Ward and Joe Haden’s this season)- “I tell you what, I thought they would be excellent football players.  I think you have got to be surprised by first of all, their knowledge of football.  They both came from excellent programs, but they have an exceptional knowledge of football.  They love football, they really love football, so they have energy.  They’re young, but they love the game, so they can’t get enough of it.  They’re up in there studying with Jerome (Henderson) on Tuesdays on their day off like I said before.  They just can’t get enough of the game and usually by now, rookies are done.  Put a fork in them, they’re done.  Not these guys, they want to play for a long time.  I think after the season, they will be out in the parking lot playing against somebody like that Vince Papale movie or whatever.  They’re special guys, there are, and I know you guys know them.  They really are special.”

 

 



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