NOTE: Prior to the chat, Adam relayed to TheOBR.com the following regarding the Browns continuing talks with representatives for LB Kamerion Wimbley:
talked today (Monday) and discussions are expected to continue as the week progresses.
Both sides seem anxious to get a deal done whether it's a five or six-year deal.
The options look to be: five years with a club option for a buy back for a six season or five years plus an option for the sixth season (similar to Mario Williams' deal). Six year deal which voids to five. This would be based on Wimbley meeting certain incentives in the contract.
The bonus money doesn't seem to be an obstacle at this point though the numbers still have to be worked out.
Elsewhere, after talking to various league sources (agents and club personnel), it seems that it's not just agents who are waiting to see what the players above and below their own player(s) are signing for. Apparently there are various teams waiting to see what the other teams are signing players for above and below their selections (Falcons and Raiders in particular). The phrase "putting both oars in the water" applies here. Meaning some clubs are concerned about being the first one in to sign so to speak.
adamcaplan: Hi everyone
Guest56: any news on Wimbley being close to signing
adamcaplan: I have a detailed update for premium subs which will be added to the transcript later, too long to type in here
adamcaplan: both sides talked today
adamcaplan: progress is ongoing
adamcaplan: I wouldn't say they're any closer but talks are positive
Butch: positive is good
ramllov: Any information is always good information
Guest56: have any news on the rest of our picks
adamcaplan: I expect the rest of their picks to be done by the weekend or shortly there after
dadaman: adam what do you think about charlie?
adamcaplan: Dada: Frye has upside but needs a lot of work
adamcaplan: Winslow will help tremendously
adamcaplan: and all indications are that he's really going to be ready
adamcaplan: He's got a never say die attitude which will really help things
adamcaplan: A ball controlled offense will really help Frye to take pressure
off of him
Guest46: adam what is your take on mckinley???
adamcaplan: 46: Serviceable for a 3-4, nothing special.
ramllov: Adam, If Washington is going to play 20 to 25 defensive plays, who is
going to play the other 40?
adamcaplan: Ram: Osho and they'll rotate others in there
ramllov: Will they put a heavy DE for a pass rush on third and long?
adamcaplan: Ram: They really don't have a pass rushing DE
Guest25: Will Vinnie Testaverde be signed by the Browns?
adamcaplan: 25: Not now, possibly as August progresses
Guest25: How soon will Edwards be ready?
adamcaplan: 25: I expect him to be on PUP which means he'll miss at least the first six games
Butch: Adam should we put Wimbley in a padded room until the season starts
adamcaplan: Butch: He'll be in by next week.
ramllov: Adam, So the team will play a special two TE offense about 40%% prior to the return of Edwards?
adamcaplan: Ram: Not sure what you're talking about
adamcaplan: Jackson, Wilson, Northcutt will all fill in for Edwards.
ramllov: Winslow being a primary receiver with our other TE as the TE position.
adamcaplan: They'll go two TEs as well when needed
adamcaplan: Heiden is an excellent #2 TE
adamcaplan: very underrated
daydawg: Adam- what's the word on leigh bodden around the league? how good is this kid?
adamcaplan: Day: Nice story as a UDFA
adamcaplan: decent backup CB
Butch: Another ward are recieving core is in trouble until Edwards is back
dadaman1: adam if braylon is on pup he can't practice with team correct?
artbtz: He can attend meetings, I believe, dadaman
adamcaplan: Dada: He has to come off the PUP list to be with the team
dadaman1: adam/art wouldn't it be better to put minter or someone else on pup
so braylon could practice?
adamcaplan: Da: You can't do that
adamcaplan: player has to be hurt to be on PUP
daydawg: adam - do you believe palmer is going to start game 2 against the browns?
adamcaplan: Day: Yes
BigPerm: Thanks Adam - would it be improable for us to suprise and go 10-6?
adamcaplan: Big: Not improbable but not likely
artbtz: My guess is that Minter will be put on the shelf for the season
Guest242: I heard Jackson's contract has been hard to get done.... When do you see him arriving??
adamcaplan: 242: I expect his to get done before Wimbley's not the other way around.
Guest25: Culpepper and Palmer had more extensive knee injuries than Edwards and they are suppposed to ready by opening day - what is the story?
adamcaplan: Edwards had his surgery delayed for almost a month.
daydawg: adam- how short a leash is carthon on this year?
adamcaplan: Day: None really. He has RAC's backing
adamcaplan: That said, he needs to do a better job
ramllov: Adam, What do you think of the Bengal defense, they had two rookie LBs last year. Will the Browns defense parellel theirs as the two rookie LBs mature?
adamcaplan: Ram: I like the Browns rookies better
adamcaplan: Thurman was vastly overrated
adamcaplan: look at their run defense numbers
adamcaplan: DQ is a player, could be better than Thurman
Cdawgorl: Will Harrison push the other backs for playing time this year?
adamcaplan: CD: Only if Suggs is gone which is a possilbity
Guest242: I know this is mainly a Browns chat, however, I am friends with Jerrious Norwood (RB) taken by Atlanta in the 3rd Round. I had lunch with him today and he looks great. What kind of impact will he have for the Falcons?
adamcaplan: 242: Good change of pace back, good Senior Bowl week
ramllov: Do you see DQ starting at the beginning of the season?
adamcaplan: Ram: Probably not, Chaun T should be good for a year until DQ is ready
Other: The Bengals seem to be collecting lots of potential problem players -- what's the chance of a major blow-up down there?
adamcaplan: Other: Could be
daydawg: adam - do you believe the browns shouls have looked at brooks in the
adamcaplan: Day: No, they're set inside and they don't need a guy with questionable character
Guest351: whats update on wimbley
adamcaplan: 351: Already posted plenty, talks continued today, progress is ongoing
SamAtlanta: Adam...Will Suggs and William green be on the roster opening day?
adamcaplan: Sam: Green yes, Suggs traded
adamcaplan: by end of August
Guest242: What do you think the Browns realistic record should be this year? Do you think the playoffs are a given for next year?
adamcaplan: 242: 7-9, 8-8ish
Guest103: can frye take us to the promised land adam?
adamcaplan: 103: Too early to say
ramllov: Adam, the OT from Indiana, how good of an NFL guard will he be and could he be ready in November?
adamcaplan: Ram: Sowells isn't going to be ready to play
adamcaplan: developmental prospect
ramllov: Houston could be a destination for Suggs
adamcaplan: Ram: Can't see it
adamcaplan: They need someone who can actually stay on the field
adamcaplan: They have DDavis who can't
SamAtlanta: Adam, what value does Suggs have? We saw a rumor that the Broncos turned down a trade of Lelie for a 4th round RB who had been injured a lot.
adamcaplan: Sam: Conditional 6th maybe
adamcaplan: based on PT
adamcaplan: has to be with him
ramllov: Adam, I keep reading how these two starting guards are fragile. Who will step up. ?
adamcaplan: Ram: they don't have anyone who is ready behind Coleman and Andruzzi
TheRabidDawg: Adam, where do you think our Defense will rank this year?
adamcaplan: The: As noted in last week's chat, probably 12-15
dadaman1: adam what about bob Hallen as a backup?
adamcaplan: dada: Versatile, can play C or G
adamcaplan: real journeyman
Other: Have the Ravens shored up the O-Line enough to keep McNair healthy?
adamcaplan: Other: They had some injuries, should be better
Guest351: will wimbley be a hold out
adamcaplan: 351: 70-30 he signs by the weekend
Guest103: can we compete for aplayoff spot 06???
adamcaplan: 103: I don't see it
SamAtlanta: Adam, what are your thoughts on Babtunde Oshinowo?
adamcaplan: Sam: Upside player, good developmetal prospect, will have to play as a rookie too
Guest131: YSU here. How do you rank the AFC North...is it the toughest division in football the year...the AFC??
adamcaplan: 131: NFC East is best
dadaman1: Do you think TO will have a big year?
adamcaplan: Dada: Yep until he implodes
Guest167: How good can Justin Hamilton be?
adamcaplan: 167: Big size but how well he can move in camp will determine if he makes the team
dadaman1: adam what about savage saying pool could be an ed reed type
adamcaplan: Dada: Not sure about that but Pool's talented
Butch: Adam how good can this Def be 16th in the league last year and with the additions and extra year I think we can be really good!
* adamcaplan: MOTIONS/smile.gif Butch: Other Ds got good too
daydawg: adam- In the off season we heard a lot about Savage's comments about
faith and character, and how these guys with faith are generally more
productive. How much damage if any did he do to the team and his reputation?
adamcaplan: Day: it got some curious comments from NFL people but it's forgotten by now
dadaman1: Adam do you think mcnair will play all 16 games?
adamcaplan: dada: 14
Butch: Adam whats up with your fellow serius guys saying we will go 2-14
adamcaplan: Butchie: Not me
adamcaplan: the D and running game is the reason why they'll be 7-9 or 8-8
adamcaplan: they could really use one more veteran NT
Guest167: How good of a prospect is J'Vonne Parker?
adamcaplan: 167: Practice squad most likely but they need depth at DT so anything is possible
dadaman1: Adam can the D be in the top 10?
adamcaplan: dada: Anything is possible and the coaching is good on D
daydawg: adam, given romeo's reluctance to play rookies, what chances do you give Wimbley to start against the saints?
adamcaplan: Day: 65-35
artbtz: When will Frank Gore be the #1 back in San Fran?
adamcaplan: Art: I would say RBBC there
adamcaplan: Gore is a high upside RB though
Guest163: when do you think when all the rookies be in
adamcaplan: 163: By Sunday mostly
adamcaplan: for CLE
adamcaplan: Wimbley's deal still needs some work
Guest131: what about Mike Robinson out in SF...heard he might be the shock of the year at RB??!!
adamcaplan: 131: #4 on their depth chart
dadaman1: Adam if alex smith struggles will nolan play trent
adamcaplan: dada: Nope
adamcaplan: They will win or lose with Smith
adamcaplan: that's the same way the Browns will go with Frye
dadaman1: even if he the only reason they are losing games
adamcaplan: dada: It would have to be an extreme circumstance for smith not to start
SamAtlanta: Adam, are there any viable options out there for veteran backup QBs?
adamcaplan: Sam: Very weak list
adamcaplan: Maddox, Collins is the best
Guest25: When will the NFL stop ripping off fans by charging full price for the preseason games and forcing season tix holder to buy preseason tix?
adamcaplan: 25: I agree, it's a joke
dadaman1: do you agree with Pat Kirwan that if the browns go 6-10 it would be a better team?
adamcaplan: da: makes no sense
adamcaplan: they were 6-10 last season
SamAtlanta: I agree - Collins and Maddox, but Collins would want to start.
adamcaplan: sam: Not totally correct
adamcaplan: he knows his days starting are pretty much over
adamcaplan: he'll need a team to loser a starter
SamAtlanta: He's not just waiting for someone to go down in camp?
adamcaplan: Sam: That's the only way he'll get a starting job
Guest124: Bodden was probably the Browns' best surprise last year. Who might it be this year?
adamcaplan: Guest: Oshsho
Guest103: can we competre with squeelers
adamcaplan: 103: Not yet
adamcaplan: getting closer though
Guest25: What's Butch Davis coaching future - college or NFL - or does he have a coaching future?
adamcaplan: 25: College or NFL assistant
adamcaplan: Though he did interview well with KC
Guest431: Adam, Is Lee Suggs in the Browns Plans?
adamcaplan: 431: Not for the future, could be dealt by the end of next month
daydawg: adam - did the Browns overpay for gary baxter?
adamcaplan: day: I was never a fan but when he's on his game he's tough beause he's so big for a CB
Guest25: What college coach is next to jump up to the NFL?
adamcaplan: 25: Ferenz finally
tutorofthestudents: who starts at the two safety positions?
adamcaplan: Russell and Pool to start
Guest103: are we a .500 team ADAM/
adamcaplan: 103: I've noted about 4-5 times so far tonight, 7-9 or 8-8
ramllov: Adam, Pool aand Jones can play both safety position in the Browns
adamcaplan: ram: Ss are generally interchangeable in the CLE version of the NE D
Guest431: I've heard a couple guys on Sirius pick the Browns as a possible
sleeper this year.Do you agree?
adamcaplan: 431: Depends on what you mean by sleeper
adamcaplan: I call them an improved team
tutorofthestudents: will we ever see a jones pool safety lineup?
artbtz: It's inevitable IF Crennel is confident that either can QB the defense. That's why Russell will start game one.
adamcaplan: Art: Russell has good veteran savvy but he's slow
Guest295: When's Bernie joining the organazation ?
artbtz: 295 - Lane Adkins is trying to talk to Bernie about that this week
adamcaplan: 295: Has to be the right deal
adamcaplan: and I would imagine he would want to be more than a front office type
Guest103: is our defensive coridnator on his way up???????
adamcaplan: 103: two more good seasons
adamcaplan: 103: I like TG
adamcaplan: and he understands the system that RAC has
Guest334: Adam, sorry if you already answered this, but do you think Winslow's
health will hold up
adamcaplan: 334: I think he'll be ok, so far so good and they really need him to pick up the slack for Edwards
Guest40: Adam, do you envision Wimbley and D. Jackson both starting by the end of the season?
adamcaplan: 40: KW early on, no on DQ but he'll push Thompson for playing time
Guest103: adam who do you work for???
adamcaplan: 103: sirius, scout.com
artbtz: Is there any pressure on our old pal Marty Schottenheimer to produce-or-else this year?
adamcaplan: art: Yes, he could be gone by mid season
adamcaplan: if they're 3-5 or so
dadaman1: Adam if northcutt has big year like 4 punts for TD's will he be back next year
adamcaplan: dada: I can't see it
adamcaplan: he's never lived up to the contract extension
adamcaplan: and he's really a situational WR
plumpgrizzlybear: is dave zastudil are biggest upgrade this year?
adamcaplan: Plum: No but he's good
Guest40: I just don't understand why we wouldn't start Thompson, D. Jackson, Davis, McGinest, and then play Wimbley on passing situations to rush the passer.
adamcaplan: 40: They want Thompson inside
daydawg: adam - is there a real danger of the bungles imploding with
all of these character issues hanging over the team?
adamcaplan: Day: I did say earlier possibly
adamcaplan: you have to wonder what is going on there
adamcaplan: they have no GM remember
Guest103: adam i live in the home town of K j DO YOU SEE HIM SIGNING WITH THE PATRIOTS??
adamcaplan: 103: Nothing new on KJ
Guest25: How long will Cowher stay with the Steelers?
adamcaplan: 25: Two more years
Guest334: Adam, do you think Andruzzi's and Coleman's health is a really big concern for Frye? I mean do you see them getting injured early on?
adamcaplan: 334: Not at this time but if they get hurt, that's a problem
ramllov: Adam, what about the idea of the Browns signing a President. IGM? guy? sp?
adamcaplan: Ram: That's not what they need, they need a football person to oversee the operations
adamcaplan: IMG dropped all sports anyway
adamcaplan: I just think the team president should have a football background
adamcaplan: collins had none
Guest103: can travis wilson start?
adamcaplan: 103: I think it's a very big risk, we'll see what happens in camp but I really like him
ramllov: Adam what is the deal with Perkins, was that a Savage mistake?
adamcaplan: Ram: rth round pick, not a big deal.
Guest334: Adam, do you think Cribbs will be on the field as a receiver at all?
adamcaplan: 334: Could be because they could be short on numbers on Sunday
Guest295: Adam, Is Jim Browns presence all that its cracked up to be ???
adamcaplan: 295: Not sure how much of an impact but he's good at counselling players
Guest40: Adam, what do you think about Frye as the Browns starting QB?
adamcaplan: 40: Two more years away from being solid
Guest334: Adam, do you see Frye ever passing for 3000 yards?
adamcaplan: 334: With BE and KW healthy, yes
Guest103: thanks adam and art
adamcaplan: we'll do this again next week
adamcaplan: later folks