Trade Down Possibility for Bucs To Consider

Most of the draft chatter recently has centered around teams looking to trade up with the Tennessee Titans to select Marcus Mariota, but what if Mariota doesn't make it to the 2nd pick? Could the Bucs be fielding those same trade offers?

The Buccaneers have as desperate a need for a quarterback as any team in this draft. They are also in the best position to secure themselves a quarterback of any team in this draft. Yet, we still sit and wonder, what will the Buccaneers ultimately do when on the clock on Thursday night.

While most people locally and nation wide have debated Jameis Winston and Marcus Mariota for the past few months, what if the Buccaneers went another route? What if they were actually considering a trade down?

Recently, Mike Freeman of Bleacher Report said that the Bucs' phone had been "ringing off the hook" from teams looking to trade up.

If the Buccaneers took 99% of these trade offers seriously, and missed out on a potential franchise quarterback, their irrelevance to the league and their own city would be exponentially magnified by the growing amount of empty seats inside their own outdated stadium in the coming season.

Could there be one trade that makes sense? Could there be that one trade that gives the Buccaneers extra draft picks, while still allowing them to have a new franchise signal caller?

Before we play the hypothetical game, let's evaluate what NBC Sports' Alex Flanagan tweeted yesterday.

Flanagan is obviously talking about the recent rumors that continue to gain momentum of Rivers and the Chargers' 1st round pick going to Tennessee for the Titans 2nd pick in the draft. The Chargers would then select Marcus Mariota. Flanagan expounds here:

In an off-season where we've seen LeSean McCoy traded for Kiko Alonzo, Sam Bradford traded for Nick Foles, and Jimmy Graham traded to the Seahawks, Rivers and a 1st round pick to Tennessee for the 2nd pick in the draft doesn't sound that crazy. However, Alex Flanagan asks the big question.

I'm going to try and type this out so it makes as much sense as possible.

Let's say the Chargers organization realizes that Phillip Rivers would rather retire than play for them past 2015. Let's also say that the Chargers have identified Marcus Mariota as their guy and the quarterback they want moving forward. The reason Mariota would be their target over Winston is that the Chargers never had a private workout with Winston or had him in for a visit. We all know of Winston's past. If a team didn't show any interest in getting to know him, it's extremely doubtful they have any interest in drafting him as well. Plus, as Flanagan points out, Mariota would be much more marketable on the west coast.

Let's say the Titans have decided that they are willing to make this trade with the Chargers to get a proven commodity at quarterback and a quarterback Ken Whisenhunt has had success with. Remember, most of Whisenhunt's recent success as a play caller has come with veteran quarterbacks (Kurt Warner and Phillip Rivers) running his offense. The Titans get Rivers along with an additional 1st round pick.

So far, everything seems like a go except for the fact, that over the last couple of weeks, there have been some rumors that the Bucs might still be weighing their options between the two quarterbacks. If the Bucs take Mariota, the deal between the Chargers and Titans would be off. The Titans could then take Winston, if they choose, but they would not get any additional compensation in return. The Chargers would be stuck with an unhappy Rivers during the final year of his contract before he either moves on to another team or retires.

How desperate are the Chargers to get Mariota? If the team is indeed heading to Los Angeles after the 2015 season, you really don't want to move into a new city with new fans and have no quarterback. Are the Chargers desperate enough to trade away a little bit more to ensure themselves Mariota in this draft? What would they be willing to give up? An extra 3rd round pick? An extra 2nd round pick?

If the Chargers are ready to get Mariota and the Titans are ready to bring in Phillip Rivers, but both parties want to guarantee this trade happens, the Bucs will have to be involved. Until the Bucs make their pick finalized, all options are still on the table for them. The Bucs should use the Chargers desperation to their advantage. Let the Titans and Chargers do their trade. Then, the Chargers could give the Bucs their 2nd or 3rd round pick to the Bucs to swap places with them, giving the Bucs the 2nd pick in the draft, but an additional 2nd or 3rd round pick to work with as well. The Chargers would guarantee themselves their new franchise quarterback in Mariota, the Titans get their veteran franchise quarterback in Phillip Rivers along with the Chargers 1st round pick, and the Bucs still get Jameis Winston along with an additional 2nd or 3rd round pick for moving back just one spot.

Listen, I know it sounds crazy, but crazier trades have already happened during this off-season. If the Bucs could trade down one spot, pick up an additional high draft pick, and still secure themselves a quarterback (likely Winston), then why the hell not? Especially if the Chargers are desperate enough to guarantee this for themselves.

I know there will be people that ask why the Bucs wouldn't just trade for Phillip Rivers. I don't believe the Bucs feel they're in a win-now mode yet. I think the Bucs are set to draft a young quarterback and grow with him. At 33 years old, Rivers might be a better fit with a coach that he's played for and had success with before. For me, all signs continue to point to the Bucs wanting a young signal caller.

I hope that you've read down this far before casting judgement on this piece. I think the Bucs would love to trade down in any round and acquire more draft picks, and that includes the first round. However, I believe their main objective in this draft is to come away with one of the top two quarterbacks, and I still believe their preference is Winston.

If the Bucs can use another team's desperation to their advantage and still secure the quarterback they want, then I think they'd do it. If that full option isn't on the table, I think the Buccaneers will be very "comfortable" making their selection on Thursday night and not look back.

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In an off-season where we've seen LeSean McCoy traded for Kiko Alonzo, Sam Bradford traded for Nick Foles, and Jimmy Graham traded to the Seahawks, Rivers and a 1st round pick to Tennessee for the 2nd pick in the draft doesn't sound that crazy. However, Alex Flanagan asks the big question.

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BUT...what if Tampa wants Mariota? Does TN trade up to # 1, so they can trade their pick with San Diego?

— Alex Flanagan (@Alex_Flanagan) April 25, 2015
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I'm going to try and type this out so it makes as much sense as possible.

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Let's say the Chargers organization realizes that Phillip Rivers would rather retire than play for them past 2015. Let's also say that the Chargers have identified Marcus Mariota as their guy and the quarterback they want moving forward. The reason Mariota would be their target over Winston is that the Chargers never had a private workout with Winston or had him in for a visit. We all know of Winston's past. If a team didn't show any interest in getting to know him, it's extremely doubtful they have any interest in drafting him as well. Plus, as Flanagan points out, Mariota would be much more marketable on the west coast.

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Let's say the Titans have decided that they are willing to make this trade with the Chargers to get a proven commodity at quarterback and a quarterback Ken Whisenhunt has had success with. Remember, most of Whisenhunt's recent success as a play caller has come with veteran quarterbacks (Kurt Warner and Phillip Rivers) running his offense. The Titans get Rivers along with an additional 1st round pick.

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So far, everything seems like a go except for the fact, that over the last couple of weeks, there have been some rumors that the Bucs might still be weighing their options between the two quarterbacks. If the Bucs take Mariota, the deal between the Chargers and Titans would be off. The Titans could then take Winston, if they choose, but they would not get any additional compensation in return. The Chargers would be stuck with an unhappy Rivers during the final year of his contract before he either moves on to another team or retires.

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How desperate are the Chargers to get Mariota? If the team is indeed heading to Los Angeles after the 2015 season, you really don't want to move into a new city with new fans and have no quarterback. Are the Chargers desperate enough to trade away a little bit more to ensure themselves Mariota in this draft? What would they be willing to give up? An extra 3rd round pick? An extra 2nd round pick?

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If the Chargers are ready to get Mariota and the Titans are ready to bring in Phillip Rivers, but both parties want to guarantee this trade happens, the Bucs will have to be involved. Until the Bucs make their pick finalized, all options are still on the table for them. The Bucs should use the Chargers desperation to their advantage. Let the Titans and Chargers do their trade. Then, the Chargers could give the Bucs their 2nd or 3rd round pick to the Bucs to swap places with them, giving the Bucs the 2nd pick in the draft, but an additional 2nd or 3rd round pick to work with as well. The Chargers would guarantee themselves their new franchise quarterback in Mariota, the Titans get their veteran franchise quarterback in Phillip Rivers along with the Chargers 1st round pick, and the Bucs still get Jameis Winston along with an additional 2nd or 3rd round pick for moving back just one spot.

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Listen, I know it sounds crazy, but crazier trades have already happened during this off-season. If the Bucs could trade down one spot, pick up an additional high draft pick, and still secure themselves a quarterback (likely Winston), then why the hell not? Especially if the Chargers are desperate enough to guarantee this for themselves.

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I know there will be people that ask why the Bucs wouldn't just trade for Phillip Rivers. I don't believe the Bucs feel they're in a win-now mode yet. I think the Bucs are set to draft a young quarterback and grow with him. At 33 years old, Rivers might be a better fit with a coach that he's played for and had success with before. For me, all signs continue to point to the Bucs wanting a young signal caller.

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I hope that you've read down this far before casting judgement on this piece. I think the Bucs would love to trade down in any round and acquire more draft picks, and that includes the first round. However, I believe their main objective in this draft is to come away with one of the top two quarterbacks, and I still believe their preference is Winston.

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If the Bucs can use another team's desperation to their advantage and still secure the quarterback they want, then I think they'd do it. If that full option isn't on the table, I think the Buccaneers will be very \"comfortable\" making their selection on Thursday night and not look back.

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The Buccaneers have as desperate a need for a quarterback as any team in this draft. They are also in the best position to secure themselves a quarterback of any team in this draft. Yet, we still sit and wonder, what will the Buccaneers ultimately do when on the clock on Thursday night.

While most people locally and nation wide have debated Jameis Winston and Marcus Mariota for the past few months, what if the Buccaneers went another route? What if they were actually considering a trade down?

Recently, Mike Freeman of Bleacher Report said that the Bucs' phone had been \"ringing off the hook\" from teams looking to trade up.

If the Buccaneers took 99% of these trade offers seriously, and missed out on a potential franchise quarterback, their irrelevance to the league and their own city would be exponentially magnified by the growing amount of empty seats inside their own outdated stadium in the coming season.

Could there be one trade that makes sense? Could there be that one trade that gives the Buccaneers extra draft picks, while still allowing them to have a new franchise signal caller?

Before we play the hypothetical game, let's evaluate what NBC Sports' Alex Flanagan tweeted yesterday.

talking to more and more people who believe the Philip Rivers trade rumors have legitimate legs.

— Alex Flanagan (@Alex_Flanagan) April 25, 2015

Flanagan is obviously talking about the recent rumors that continue to gain momentum of Rivers and the Chargers' 1st round pick going to Tennessee for the Titans 2nd pick in the draft. The Chargers would then select Marcus Mariota. Flanagan expounds here:

TN needs Rivers.Chargers wouldn't have to pay him. IF SD is moving to LA, will b few yrs. of transition. + Mariota is marketable in LA.

— Alex Flanagan (@Alex_Flanagan) April 25, 2015

In an off-season where we've seen LeSean McCoy traded for Kiko Alonzo, Sam Bradford traded for Nick Foles, and Jimmy Graham traded to the Seahawks, Rivers and a 1st round pick to Tennessee for the 2nd pick in the draft doesn't sound that crazy. However, Alex Flanagan asks the big question.

BUT...what if Tampa wants Mariota? Does TN trade up to # 1, so they can trade their pick with San Diego?

— Alex Flanagan (@Alex_Flanagan) April 25, 2015

I'm going to try and type this out so it makes as much sense as possible.

Let's say the Chargers organization realizes that Phillip Rivers would rather retire than play for them past 2015. Let's also say that the Chargers have identified Marcus Mariota as their guy and the quarterback they want moving forward. The reason Mariota would be their target over Winston is that the Chargers never had a private workout with Winston or had him in for a visit. We all know of Winston's past. If a team didn't show any interest in getting to know him, it's extremely doubtful they have any interest in drafting him as well. Plus, as Flanagan points out, Mariota would be much more marketable on the west coast.

Let's say the Titans have decided that they are willing to make this trade with the Chargers to get a proven commodity at quarterback and a quarterback Ken Whisenhunt has had success with. Remember, most of Whisenhunt's recent success as a play caller has come with veteran quarterbacks (Kurt Warner and Phillip Rivers) running his offense. The Titans get Rivers along with an additional 1st round pick.

So far, everything seems like a go except for the fact, that over the last couple of weeks, there have been some rumors that the Bucs might still be weighing their options between the two quarterbacks. If the Bucs take Mariota, the deal between the Chargers and Titans would be off. The Titans could then take Winston, if they choose, but they would not get any additional compensation in return. The Chargers would be stuck with an unhappy Rivers during the final year of his contract before he either moves on to another team or retires.

How desperate are the Chargers to get Mariota? If the team is indeed heading to Los Angeles after the 2015 season, you really don't want to move into a new city with new fans and have no quarterback. Are the Chargers desperate enough to trade away a little bit more to ensure themselves Mariota in this draft? What would they be willing to give up? An extra 3rd round pick? An extra 2nd round pick?

If the Chargers are ready to get Mariota and the Titans are ready to bring in Phillip Rivers, but both parties want to guarantee this trade happens, the Bucs will have to be involved. Until the Bucs make their pick finalized, all options are still on the table for them. The Bucs should use the Chargers desperation to their advantage. Let the Titans and Chargers do their trade. Then, the Chargers could give the Bucs their 2nd or 3rd round pick to the Bucs to swap places with them, giving the Bucs the 2nd pick in the draft, but an additional 2nd or 3rd round pick to work with as well. The Chargers would guarantee themselves their new franchise quarterback in Mariota, the Titans get their veteran franchise quarterback in Phillip Rivers along with the Chargers 1st round pick, and the Bucs still get Jameis Winston along with an additional 2nd or 3rd round pick for moving back just one spot.

Listen, I know it sounds crazy, but crazier trades have already happened during this off-season. If the Bucs could trade down one spot, pick up an additional high draft pick, and still secure themselves a quarterback (likely Winston), then why the hell not? Especially if the Chargers are desperate enough to guarantee this for themselves.

I know there will be people that ask why the Bucs wouldn't just trade for Phillip Rivers. I don't believe the Bucs feel they're in a win-now mode yet. I think the Bucs are set to draft a young quarterback and grow with him. At 33 years old, Rivers might be a better fit with a coach that he's played for and had success with before. For me, all signs continue to point to the Bucs wanting a young signal caller.

I hope that you've read down this far before casting judgement on this piece. I think the Bucs would love to trade down in any round and acquire more draft picks, and that includes the first round. However, I believe their main objective in this draft is to come away with one of the top two quarterbacks, and I still believe their preference is Winston.

If the Bucs can use another team's desperation to their advantage and still secure the quarterback they want, then I think they'd do it. If that full option isn't on the table, I think the Buccaneers will be very \"comfortable\" making their selection on Thursday night and not look back.

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