Try and concentrate here, if you would. Think of the PLAYERS as being the subject. Which Cardinals players team with Whisenhunt WHENEVER and WHEREVER he lands as a football coach? This isn't hard, but it is speculative. I picture Andre Roberts as a guy who could bolt.
Sorry, LUZ, I was thinking in terms of continuation of the discussion regarding Whiz to Buffalo. I changed the base question to take the Bills specifically out since that element was no longer in play.
Answer is still none... you're forgetting that Whis lost the locker room by fining Dockett.
Wellfed wrote: Try and concentrate here, if you would. Think of the PLAYERS as being the subject. Which Cardinals players team with Whisenhunt WHENEVER and WHEREVER he lands as a football coach? This isn't hard, but it is speculative. I picture Andre Roberts as a guy who could bolt.
Just seems obvious that, with so many jobs unfilled, the buyers are waiting for certain playoff coordinators to end their seasons. Plus, it's not just MY mind that recognizes that the Whisenhunt era didn't exactly end well. An offensive coach presiding over a lousy offense? Not a major selling point.
The world saw a team that lacked an NFL caliber starting QB. I don't know whose responsibility it was to provide that depth, Whisenhunt, or Graves. Until I know, I'm not going to whine about either of them. As for Whiz losing the Cardinals locker room?? That I didn't see. In fact, I was concerned he might with the Dockett fine. Didn't happen. Maybe it was Graves behind that decision. Maybe it was Whisenhunt and the team was behind the decision. Who knows? Certainly no one here at the Scout.com Arizona Cardinals forum.
Wow.. why the continual apologies for Whisenhunt? Proof's in the pudding, man. You didn't see him lose the locker room? Then you didn't watch the 58-0 shellacking in Seattle.
Basically Whisenhunt rode Kurt Warner and Todd Haley's coattails to the Super Bowl. Without them he was primarily responsible for building a horrendous offense.
And the most damning fact? Whisenhunt was given all sorts of credit for "developing" Big Ben in Pittsburgh. But Whis was completely unable to develop any of the long pathetic line of QBs that HE drafted or HE picked up.
Seems obvious that Bidwill would know who was responsible for the decisions.. and he chose to fire Graves and Whisenhunt.
When this round of head coaching vacancies is filled without Whisenhunt finding work you will hopefully still not be shaking your head wondering why.
The real question is whether the guy can even get a job as an offensive coordinator right now...
frankinphoenix wrote: An offensive coach presiding over a lousy offense? Not a major selling point.
LMAO, so true. In the interviews, I can imagine how that went. Well Mr. Owner we had chances we just didn't convert. We were only 3 or 4 plays per game from being a good team. I also have a lot of experience with different QB's. How many coaches you know can work with 4 different QB's in a season ? You won't find any I can guarantee you that Mr. Owner. As for your O-line question Mr. Owner, pffft ... they're overrated
Yes by all means let's look at those gaudy numbers..
Skelton? Isn't that the guy that offensive genius and noted QB developer Ken Whisenhunt drafted AND PICKED TO BE THE STARTER COMING OUT OF TRAINING CAMP over Kevin Kolb? Isn't that the guy who the great KW yanked from the field WHILE LEADING in the Atlanta game for overthrowing Fitz, and replacing him with a wildly ineffective Ryan Lindley?
Lindley? Isn't he the worst, most inaccurate, most not-ready to see a field ever in the history of NFL rookie QBs? What idiot drafted and developed that guy?
And, not to belabor this further, let's do take a look at those impressive, manly rushing yards, made capable by the most pushed around offensive line in the NFL.. handpicked by noted "power" (LOL!) running game afficionado the great KW.
Truly sad, my brotha....where oh where will the legions of "followers" desperately waiting for their chance to march behind their great, career-losing-record, one-ten-win-season leader end up?