CHIEFS NOTES: Not All The Memories Are Good

<P>Greg Stills rather enjoys playing in the Network Associates Coliseum, and has ever since his first visit there.

It was in 1999, Stills' rookie year, and he was warming up in Oakland with the late Derrick Thomas.

"The fans there were all over him - 'Derrick, you suck! You're this and that!' -- and Derrick said to me, 'Listen to that. They love me here. They don't yell at you like that unless they respect you.'"

Stills, who earned Pro Bowl recognition last year for his special teams play, doesn't get that kind of heated reception. But he still enjoys other special aspects of the Oakland experience.

"The music, for one thing," he said. "I'm a big Metallica fan, got their whole collection."

DE Eric Hicks, on his worst memory of playing in Oakland -- the season finale of the 2002 season when the Chiefs were 8-7 and the Raiders were on their way to the AFC Championship Game. In a day-long rain, the Raiders' running game pounded the Chiefs all day en route to a 24-0 shutout, the last time anyone held the Chiefs scoreless.

"With all the rain it smelled like there was sewage on the field," Hicks remembered. "I've never been so cold in my life. It reminded me of what Mark Twain said about the coldest winter of his life being a summer in San Francisco. Or words to that effect."

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