Warpaint Roundtable – Offseason Edition II

This week we talk about the head-coaching search, Tyler Thigpen, Donovan McNabb, and rookie quarterbacks.

Are Pioli and Hunt actually trying to address our coaching situation, or are they on some private golf course in Florida somewhere laughing together?

Nick Athan: It's obvious you're frustrated, but so are we who cover this team. The bottom line is that Scott Pioli is different in everything that he does compared to his predecessor, Carl Peterson. He's deliberate and does not strike until every base is covered. He did not make an announcement on Herm Edwards until he had exhausted his search for a replacement. Maybe it was unfair to leave Edwards sitting on the fence, but with the money he's making I doubt he was complaining. But rest assured neither Pioli or Hunt have been playing golf.

Michael Ash: They're on a golf course, laughing. According to my longtime, trusted source Stan the Caddy, they're sitting in Pioli's golf cart, sipping champagne and laughing it up while they light their cigars with $100 bills.

C.E. Wendler: Michael, my sources say they actually light their cigars with the receipts from all the season-ticket sales that rolled in since Carl Peterson resigned, but seriously, how can anyone be anything but completely satisfied with Pioli and Hunt at this point? Yes, it took awhile for Edwards to be dismissed, but what head-coaching candidate have the Chiefs missed out on at this point? Eric Mangini? Rex Ryan? Give me a break. Put it this way – we know how hard Hunt worked to bring in Pioli. With the news lockdown at Arrowhead these days, it's safe to say Pioli is doing anything but relaxing.


What would Mike Shanahan think of Tyler Thigpen?

Nick Athan: He'd turn him into a starting NFL quarterback. Right now Thigpen is a solid backup. He has a good arm and is mobile but must work on his mechanics. His release point is all over the place and he throws too many fade patterns off his back foot. Those are easy fixes, so I could see Shanahan making him a dangerous quarterback, provided he runs the 'Pistol' offense. Thigpen won't be a consistent pocket passer but Shanahan could exploit his strengths and make him a consistent winner. Even so, the Chiefs will draft another young quarterback at some point in April.


What would Mike Shanahan make of Tyler Thigpen?
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Michael Ash: If Shanahan came to Kansas City, I doubt Thigpen would be his first, second, or third choice as the quarterback he wants to build around. But if the Chiefs aren't sold on any of the quarterbacks coming out of college this year, Shanahan could most likely work with Thigpen for a year or two. In that case, who knows, maybe Thigpen would blossom?

C.E. Wendler: You all know Thigpen is not my favorite quarterback, and the comments he made on Sirius radio this weekend were ridiculous (more on that later this week), but there's no arguing Mike Shanahan's abilities when it comes to developing quarterbacks. Brian Griese and Jake Plummer never had it so good. In fact, neither did Steve Young or John Elway.

Shanahan would look at Thigpen and see a player with rare athletic ability (remember, Thigpen was considered a wide receiver prospect by some draft gurus) and good enough arm strength to make all the throws. To be quite honest, you may laugh at this comparison, but what did Plummer have that Thigpen doesn't? At least Thigpen hasn't developed some of the awful decision-making habits Plummer did in Arizona.


Everyone thinks Matt Cassel is a trade option but what about Donovan McNabb? I keep hearing he wants out of Philly and has a high cap number. Maybe he could force the Eagles' hand? McNabb to Tony Gonzalez and Dwayne Bowe could be fun to watch.

Nick Athan: Philadelphia Owner Jeffrey Lurie has already gone on record stating McNabb will back with the Eagles next season. What does that mean in January? Nothing, so we'll see if he holds true to his word or not come February 27 when free agency begins and McNabb's demands are in the Peyton Manning range. Personally, McNabb is too old to be a fit for the Chiefs. He'd make a connection with Gonzalez and Bowe, but he's a short term solution.

Michael Ash: Trying to acquire McNabb would be right out of the Carl Peterson playbook. McNabb may only have two or three good years left. He's not a long-term answer, and it's not like the Chiefs have everything in place for a postseason run but a quarterback.

If McNabb was a free agent, it might be different. But he's not someone the Chiefs should be surrendering draft picks for or putting that much ($9 million) of their salary cap towards.

C.E. Wendler: This is a moot point if you ask me. The Eagles would be nuts to let McNabb go. Not only does their offense go in the tank without him, but we're talking about a player who just last week, gave his team the lead late in an NFC Championship game on the road with an incredible touchdown bomb. I'll be shocked if McNabb doesn't retire in an Eagles uniform.


With Sam Bradford pulling his name out of the NFL Draft leaving Matt Stafford and Mark Sanchez as the top two prospects, does Kansas City take a gamble on one or do they pick up another position player and wait on a less developed talent like Josh Freeman, Nate Davis, or Rhett Bomar?

Nick: How about Ball State's Nate Davis? He's the next Joe Flacco, but better. To me he's the next great find and while I'm not drinking Jason Whitlock's kool-aid, he looks like a middle to late first-rounder, and a player you can build a new offense around. I've talked to scouts who said Davis is far ahead of where Flacco was at this point last year. I'll go as far as saying that of all the quarterbacks who will come out this year, he'll be the most remembered by 2010 or 2011.


How about Nate Davis?
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Michael Ash: Passing on one of those two quarterbacks isn't going to force the Chiefs to take a Freeman or a Bomar later in the draft if they aren't sold on them. But even beyond that issue, you have to wonder what Scott Pioli's philosophy is on quarterbacks. He's coming from a team whose last two starting quarterbacks – Tom Brady and Matt Cassel – were taken in the sixth and seventh rounds respectively. Of course, there's a reason for that: once the Patriots had Brady, they didn't need to worry about drafting a quarterback high in the draft.

But perhaps Pioli is confident enough in his ability to find unpolished gems that he doesn't think you have to use a high pick on the quarterback position. Maybe he'd rather stock up on elite talent at other key positions. I doubt that's how he thinks on the matter, but we won't really know until the Chiefs make their first pick.

C.E. Wendler: The Chiefs may not like any of these quarterbacks. I've completely prepared myself for the reality that Scott Pioli might want to evaluate the talent on the current roster for a year before he makes any rash decisions on handing a rookie quarterback $40+ million in guaranteed money. If none of the quarterbacks coming out strike his fancy, it makes complete sense to draft another defender high and begin repairing KC's awful defense.

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