--WLB Barrett Green, true to coach Tom Coughlin's threat, did not play for the Giants except on special teams. The starter instead was Nick Greisen (who had seven tackles and generally did well). Green reportedly showed up nearly two hours late for a bye-week meeting. He won't comment, saying: "I'm not allowed to talk about it," and Coughlin, for his part, says: "That's between the two of us."

--RB Tiki Barber (70 yards, 22 carries) increased his career total to 6,056 yards, just the second player in team history to go past the 6,000 mark. Rodney Hampton (6,897) is still the franchise leader.

--RB Tiki Barber's streak of three 100-yard games was stopped, but he caught seven passes for 102 yards (both career-high numbers), which included a 62-yard TD on a screen pass from QB Kurt Warner. He has 3,952 yards as a receiver, 11th on the team's all-time list.

--The Giants fell to 3-13 in post-bye week games, which includes defeats in eight of their last nine such games. Coach Tom Coughlin is 5-4 in post-bye games (he was 5-3 as the eight-year head coach in Jacksonville).

--DT Fred Robbins (sprained shoulder) did not play and was kept on the Game Inactive list. Last year's first round pick, William Joseph, started in his place and acquitted himself fairly well. But the job remains' Robbins' when he returns, which is likely to happen Sunday at Minnesota (from whence he came this year as an UFA).

--DE Osi Umenyiora, last year's second-round pick, had what might have been perceived as his "breakout" game. He had three tackles, a sack for 11 yards and a forced fumble. The Troy State (Ala.) product denied, however, that the heavily favored Giants took the Lions for granted. "The coaches would never allow that," he said.

--The Giants' four secondary members finished in the top seven in tackles, indicating that the Lions spent a good portion of the game deep in Giants territory. "They didn't beat us badly," CB Will Peterson said. "It's just that their sense of urgency was greater than ours."

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