Albany Notebook - Jets-Giants practice gets ugly

There were several fights in the Jets-Giants Saturday morning practice in Albany.

The biggest one was between Jets safety Oliver Celestin and Giants tight end Jeremy Shockey. Also squaring off were Jets linebacker Eric Barton and Giants wide receiver Amani Toomer, Jets linebacker Ryan Myers and Giants linebacker Reggie Torbor, and Jets cornerback D.J. Johnson and Giants wide receiver David Tyree. Barton also had a altercation with Giants guard Chris Snee.

But the main event was the Celestin-Shockey fight very early in the morning practice. Shockey thought Celestin was guarding him a little too aggressively, and this led to a fisticuffs. Coming to Celestin's aid quickly were Jets linebacker Jonathan Vilma and safety Erik Coleman.

Giants coach Tom Coughlin wasn't too happy with how the Jets approached this morning practice. Remember, these are practices, not scrimmages, so there is no tackling, and contact is supposed to be kept to a minimum. Coughlin thinks the Jets went overboard with their tempo, and this led to the fights.

Coughlin actually had words with Jets defensive coordinator Donnie Henderson after one of the fights. It wasn't clear what Coughlin said, but twice Henderson replied, "That is how we practice."

Coughlin thinks the Jets style of practice could lead to injuries.

"We don't practice like that," said Coughlin. "We want them to go full speed, but we don't need unneccesary hitting. There are only so many players you can fit under the salary cap."

Coughlin realizes that training camp fights are going to happen once in a while, but what happened this morning at UAlbany was a little bit out of control in the eyes of the Giants coach.

"That is something that is going to happen, but it happened on too many occasions," said Coughlin.

The Giants coach talked to Jets coach Herman Edwards between the practices to fix the problem.

"This is something we will try to correct and make sure it doesn't happen again," said Coughlin.

Edwards thinks the Jets long bus trip to the State Capital this morning contributed to his team's attitude.

"We woke up at 4:30 this morning so our guys we're a little cranky," said Edwards. "But we'll be a little more calm [this afternoon]. I think at the end of the day our guys know that you have to keep your composure."

Edwards didn't see most of the fights because the majority of them took place on the lower field, and he was coaching on the upper field.

"I am going to keep my mouth shut on that one, I can't comment," said Edwards. "I wasn't down there."


Wideout receiver Laveranues Coles and tight end Chris Baker both looked great in the morning practice. Coles made a spectacular leaping catch, and Baker made a diving catch on a crossing route . . .

Jets contract guru Mike Tannenbaum, and the agent for Ty Law, Carl Poston, continue to attempt to put the final touches on a contract for the free agent cornerback.

"Talks continues," said Jets spokesman Ron Colangelo. "There is an ongoing dialogue . . .

Cornerback Ray Mickens left the morning practice with an injury to his left knee. It doesn't seem serious. Linebacker Victor Hobson was held out of the morning practice with a pulled groin . . .

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