Note: Below is the transcript from Thursday's chat w/
Lions' insider Mike Fowler. Mike's username (mikefowler)
has been listed in bold text to highlight his commentary. Enjoy!
NateCaminata > Hello, Mr. Fowler
coyote12 > Hi again Mike
fury91 > Hey Mike, what's up????
kennyo95 > most have s. davis as the 3rdcb
mikefowler > I'm here boss
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Henrino > HI Mike
Henrino > :o)
stanklove > nate is he gonna type in all caps?
mikefowler> Hey guys
LionJD > U all see Clayton on NFL tonight?
fury91 > nope
coyote12 > ok fill us in Mike
otto85 > any new news on shawn rogers
silky > hey guys what i miss?
.NateCaminata > If you would rather have Mike type in all caps so that his answer stands out, ask him
mikefowler> no news on Rogers
mikefowler> GOT IT
Henrino > ok
coyote12 > yes Nate
fury91 > thanks mike
stanklove > any news on trade talk?
mikefowler> TWO RUMORS
snoilog > thanks mike
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Henrino > good
Henrino > :o)
otto85 > what rumors
LionJD > Yeah Otto.........Mike, Clayton on NFL tonight, said Still is interest in Rogers, and
he could go for a 2nd or 3rd on draft day, which is way too low
mikefowler> FIRST, DALLAS HAS OFFERED DETROIT A 3RD TO MOVE DOWN TO FIVE
Henrino > no way
haplessfan > ick
mikefowler> SECOND DETROIT WILL PACKAGE PICKS TO MOVE BACK INTO ROUND ONE TO TRY TO BEAT OAK TO MCGAHEE
LionJD > better not
snoilog > not good enuf
stanklove > lol next!
UKlionfan > Hi MikeF...
coyote12 > no on second
LionJD > yeah i was thinking they should package their 2nd and 4th to move to like 29th or 30th
fury91 > we need more than a third to move
haplessfan > i dont' like the second either...if mcgahee is gone, take another RB
Henrino > Ok both are thumbs down with me
mikefowler> JD, THAT'S THE KIND OF DEAL THAT IS BEING RUMORED
coyote12 > cowgirls want Newman?
Henrino > :o/
snoilog > what about, NE and Houston moving ahead of us
spike804 > Mcgahee is a cripple? What a gamble.
stanklove > mike what is the word on mcgahee health?
otto85 > trade rogers to the jets for 22 pick maybee
LSB2006 > Package what ?
LionJD > I dont know,Mcgahee can be a pro bowler in 2004
mikefowler> MCGAHEE'S WAY AHEAD OF SCHEDULE
coyote12 > Pats take him
stanklove > that seems like a huge gamble
kennyo95 > i wouldn't pass on rogers
LionJD > Oh so Mike, u think our 2nd and 4th would get it done for the late 1st?
fury91 > yeah, McGahees a freak when it comes to recovery time
Henrino > yeah I heard Tom K say that sunday
spike804 > Wondering how many hits he can take.
haplessfan > call it a hunch, but i don't think mcgahee will suffer any long term affects from his injyr
mikefowler> IT IS, BUT WHAT IF HE TURNS OUT TO BE EDGERRIN JAMES?
LSB2006 > so they like mcgahee that much huh?
mikefowler> HE'S THE BEST BACK IN THE DRAFT AND HE'S HURT
stanklove > what if he turns out to be jamal lewis
LionJD > I know, hes better than Portis and Edge were in Miami
stanklove > anderson
otto85 > mcgahee wont be in dtown
snoilog > Who would we take with the 5th pick then mike
mikefowler> LOVE, THAT'S THE RISK YOU TAKE
Henrino > But lifting weights and running a little doesn't help us know how he's gonna hold up ifr he gets hit on the knee
stanklove > yea
spike804 > Mike would you actually move UP for him?
LSB2006 > mike you think they will trade up to get him? i hope
coyote12 > if we traded with Dallas we would likely get Johnson
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haplessfan > willis, willis, willis! chant with me!
kennyo95 > what about o. smith in the 3rd
mikefowler> I WOULDN'T TRADE THAT PICK UNLESS I KNEW I COULD GET JOHNSON BECAUSE ROGERS WILL BE GONE
LionJD > Yeah moving 5th, means we lose out on Andre and Charlie, and I guess would take Newman
stanklove > what player is dallas lookin for?
coyote12 > risk to high Mike
mikefowler> SOME SAY THAT DALLAS WANTS ROGERS
snoilog > exactly mike.
LionJD > Johnson wont be there at 5 I dont believe
otto85 > leftwich goes to who?
haplessfan > andre johnson will be gone
fury91 > especially if Dallas wants Rogers
LSB2006 > it isn't worth trading the #2, take rogers
Henrino > Dallas wants 3 players I heard Newman Kennedy or Rogars
mikefowler> JAX LIKES LEFTWICH
fury91 > take Rogers
stanklove > mike what is your feeling on takin rogers or trading the pick?
coyote12 > we are better with Rogers unless we get picks and get Johnson
mikefowler> UNLESS I WAS GETTING AT LEAST THREE EXTRA PICKS I TAKE ROGERS
stanklove > ok
snoilog > Mike I heard a rumor about chicago trading with NO for both 1sts a 2nd and 2 3rds sounds like alot to me
haplessfan > take rogers with the 1st pick...pray that mcgahee falls to our second round pick...
fury91 > allright
UKlionfan > MJ??...Would we select Suggs at 5??..thanks!
LionJD > Well we all know it looks like Robertson is going 4th to someone
LSB2006 > exactly
snoilog > I agree mike
Henrino > Yes Mike agree there 3 picks
mikefowler> SNOILOG, DETROIT WOULD PROBABLY TAKE THAT
coyote12 > I am agains Macghee even at #34
LSB2006 > what 3 pick though
LSB2006 > what rounds
snoilog > no doubt
otto85 > i still like the safty troy polamalu in the second round or mike doss
coyote12 > would rather take L Johnson
fury91 > Mike.... How far will Dennis Weathersbye drop??????
stanklove > mooch said they would not trade down further then 20
mikefowler> POLAMALU WILL BE GONE BY PICK 20 I BELIEVE
.NateCaminata > Personally, I love the idea of McGahee at 34
LSB2006 > LJohnson will bust
haplessfan > weathersby in the third!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LionJD > Troy ahead of Doss, Doss is really short, even tho he blasts people
Henrino > Larry Johnson can return Kickoffs too
silky > any word on the s.rogers trade bate?
snoilog > Mike I thought lions were high on L. Johnson?
mikefowler> FURY, TOO BAD ABOUT WEATHERSBY, I REALLY LIKE HIM, I SAY 3RD 4TH ROUND
kennyo95 > doss is overrated
LionJD > Same here Nate, I think Mcgahee at 34 is the kind of pick that could turn this franchise around
mikefowler> KENNY, ARE YOU JOKING?
haplessfan > we should take weathersby!
LSB2006 > i agree lionjd
fury91 > thanks Mike, I like him a lot too
kennyo95 > no
otto85 > what safty then
mikefowler> WEATHERSBY IN 3RD, COOL!
stanklove > mike how do u rate and place eugene wilson, sammy davis, andre woolfolk?
Henrino > no way
LSB2006 > that would be a steal, weathersby
Henrino > to much of a risk
LionJD > Guys..Mcgahee,Harrington,Rogers, now thats a future
Henrino > we Need A LB
coyote12 > Lions will not take MacGhee
.NateCaminata > LionJD, I think you just hit the nail on the head
haplessfan > LionJD, totally agree!
LionJD > haha, thanks fellas
mikefowler> LOVE, SOME SAY WILSON LATE 1ST, DAVIS LATE 1ST EARLY 2ND WOOLFOLK THE SAME
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LSB2006 > mcgahee and rogers would make me a very happy man
.NateCaminata > Alot like the Colts' dynamic three, only more talented
LionJD > No doubt about that
mikefowler> COYOTE IF HE'S THERE IN ROUND TWO, THEY'RE TAKING HIM
LSB2006 > yes
stanklove > nate u think mcgahee is more talented then james?
LSB2006 > woo hoo
coyote12 > ask any Doctor thet knee is ruined
yknott > will they trade up for him
spike804 > Mr. Graham?\
LionJD > Mike, I saw Wilson a lot verse Michigan, he doesnt stand out much, and hes pretty short, I definitely hope we dont take him with 34
LSB2006 > you're ruined coyote
LSB2006 > he's ours
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.NateCaminata > No, but I think in the long run those three will be more talented than what the Colts' possess
snoilog > Mike, I heard that Rogers agent has a history of having his player hold out do you see
the lions having a problem signing him if taken??
kennyo95 > mike, what about solb
coyote12 > know way we take macGhee
Henrino > Mike where do you see Anthony Floyd out of Louisville going hes on my list in round 5
LSB2006 > mike, what's the deal with onterrio smith?
haplessfan > i'd really like to draft mcgahee...but i have a feeling he'd gone by 34...
fury91 > Mike.... Do you think Vince Maewai could fall to us in the 3rd??? Also, are the Lions high on him?????
moonlight > Yes spike I'm here
LionJD > Coyote why dont u think we would ever take Mcgahee?
otto85 > what about quentin griffin in the third or fourth
mikefowler> THE POSTONS ARE KNOWN AS TOUGH NEGOTIATOR BUT DETROIT FEELS LEWAND CAN HANDLE THEM
coyote12 > because he is damaged goods
stanklove > lewand is a thug
snoilog > Thanks mike.
coyote12 > thet knee is wrecked
mikefowler> FURY, I THINK THEY WILL GO AFTER TWO GUARDS IN THE DRAFT, MANUWAI COULD BE THERE IN 3
fury91 > thanks mike,
mikefowler> LOVE, HUH?
fury91 > Manewai is my fav oline man this year
stanklove > just kidding
LionJD > But its the 34th pick, not like a high #1, so not that huge a risk
snoilog > Hey mike lets hear who you would take with the 1st 3 picks
otto85 > griffin is great
LSB2006 > mooch wants mcgahee
mikefowler> COYOTE DID YOU SEE HIS WORKOUT? HE ISN'T DONE
LSB2006 > coyote is in denial
coyote12 > he ran 80*
fury91 > his workout was awesome
stanklove > alot of people are worried about mcgahee
coyote12 > no cuts Mike
LionJD > Yeah if he thought he was done, he would of taken the 2.5 mil
haplessfan > like someone said....coyote is LJ! lol
coyote12 > just lifted weights
Henrino > Griffin is not a everydown back a third down back
silky > mike, if we take rogers then willis, then manuwai ..when would we go for defence?
LSB2006 > what else could he do coyote
coyote12 > I read and seen vid on his work out
kennyo95 > wil we pick kirkus
LSB2006 > surgery was 4 months ago, he's amazing
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moonlight > I wouldn't touch Macgahee either coyote unless at a lower round
otto85 > griffin is being compared to barry
LionJD > Coyote are u pretending to be Larry Johnson, so we dont take MCgahee?lol
snoilog > Mike, do you know how to speed read, LOL
yknott > will they trade up to get mcgahee if they think oaklands going to take him
coyote12 > and alot scouts said he isstrill big question mark
coyote12 > soem said they lost interest
mikefowler> SILK, ROGERS, THEN IF THERE MCGAHEE IF NOT DOSS,
Henrino > I agree with Coyote have to wait on Mcgahee\
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Spielman54 > He'll be gone by our pick in the 2nd anyway
haplessfan > true
LSB2006 > no one has recovered as fast as him.....ever
snoilog > I say we take Kircus with our 2nd pick in the 5th
coyote12 > don't take Johnson
LionJD > Guys dont forget we have this guy named Stew for 1 more year, so WIllis wouldnt be rushed in this yr
fury91 > snoilog, he might not be in the 5th
Spielman54 > Mike, do you like Kircus?
coyote12 > but if you take RB at #34 don't take MacGhee
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kennyo95 > mathis over doss definatley
stanklove > i hope mcgahee doesnt get addicted to pain pills like brett did
coyote12 > one year wonder
silky > i agree lionjd
otto85 > who do we tke in the third then mike
Henrino > Take Suggs or Johnson
spike804 > Mike 9i like Doss I hope magahee is plucked in first round.
snoilog > I know but thats the chance I take.
mikefowler> Spielman, KIRCUS TURNED SOME HEADS, MAYBE 4TH OR 5TH ROUNDER
haplessfan > suggs or smith i'd be ok with
coyote12 > would he have started ahead of Core Mike??
coyote12 > did he beat out Portis lasty year Mike??
Spielman54 > would love to see him as a lion
LionJD > I dont know, if we want DOss, Im sure we could trsde down, and still nab him, most say
he'd go in middle of round 2
mikefowler> IF DETROIT WANTS A BACK DO NOT TAKE LARRY JOHNSON UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE
stanklove > he blocked for portis
LSB2006 > agreed mike
otto85 > larry suck
Spielman54 > why mike?
haplessfan > larry johnson is FILTH
snoilog > Why do you say no to LJ mike?
LSB2006 > why are lions interested in LJ?
stanklove > it seems like they like him mike, what are your reasons?
LionJD > Oh Mike, Lions not interested in Larry, or u just dont like him?
coyote12 > you see his tapes Mike..L Johnson
fury91 > I don't think Johnson could improve our team.... AT ALL!!!!
mikefowler> YOU SAW HIM AGAINST THE TOP CLUBS, NOTHING, HE GOT IT ALL AGAINST THE WORST TEAMS IN THE LEAGUE
coyote12 > look at hos tapes Mike
otto85 > when do we take another corner
LionJD > Yeah I could run for 350 verse MSU,ha
LSB2006 > LJ = BUST
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mikefowler> WEATHERSBY WOULD BE A GOOD PICKUP IN ROUND THREE OR FOUR
haplessfan > yes!
stanklove > he would be eons better with sledge leading for him
Henrino > Larry Johnson is a great receiver out of the backfield
coyote12 > se his pass recieving against top teams Mike
LSB2006 > that would be a steal
fury91 > yeah, I think Weathersbye will be great!!!!!
LionJD > Mike, if Woolfolk slips to 34, u heard the Lions have any interest in him?
snoilog > Mike, heard a writer from SI today saying Rogers is overrated. That he will have
problems with the bump and run and drops too many passes.
coyote12 > they stacked box to stop run so he caught passes
moonlight > LJ is described as being similar in style to Stewart
mikefowler> JOHNSON ISN'T A WCO BACK, SUGGS OR SMITH WOULD BE BETTER FITS
haplessfan > LF does catch good, i'll give him that for sure!
kennyo95 > also had less carries against top teams
LSB2006 > i don't like Suggs either
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otto85 > what are we going th have a starting lb core
mikefowler> SNIOLOG, THAT WAS PETER KING, HE'S A JOKE, DON'T BOTHER READING THAT DRIVEL
stanklove > lol
Henrino > Suggs is my first pick but i like Lj too
coyote12 > 2000yds running and good reciever with good speed is nota WCB??
mikefowler> OTTO, WE JUST LET OUR FUTURE STAR GO TO MINNY
LSB2006 > king is a joke, good call
LionJD > Yeah King watches to much Golf,haaa
Spielman54 > I 2ND that mike
snoilog > Was at work listening.. what can I say starved for draft stuff lol
otto85 > lol
mikefowler> JOHNSON HAS CURTIS ENIS WRITTEN ALL OVER HIM
kennyo95 > lj had the most rec
stanklove > curtis doesnt have johnsons speed
coyote12 > CC futue star????
LionJD > Mike, think the Lions like Woolfolk at all?
spike804 > Mike ou have more faith in the fat man in Miny than I do.
coyote12 > he had 4 years to be a Star
mikefowler> JD, WOOLFOLK IS A PLAYER EQUAL TO NEWMAN
LionJD > I agree, I would jump on him if he slips
coyote12 > how many years he need Mike?
Spielman54 > good riddance cc
LionJD > In fact, most the year, he was considered to go as high as Newman
snoilog > Back to the Dallas rumor, do you think we pull the trigger or do we ask for more?
Henrino > Larry Johnson is heathy can return kickoffs anbd has the best hands in the draft IMO
stanklove > we gotta get more then a third
coyote12 > or should I say pounds?
otto85 > can we get a good de in round 5 or 6 for the future
kennyo95 > will a.w. fall to 34
mikefowler> THEYD HAVE TO GET MORE THAN JUST A 3RD, THAT A FOOL'S OFFER
LSB2006 > Jerry Jones is an a$$
yknott > what is the dallas rumor?
LSB2006 > that's insulting
mikefowler> KENNY WOOLFOLK? LATE FIRST, EARLY SECOND
fury91 > Al Davis is an a$$!!!!!!
snoilog > Right I was thinking, like a 6th and a 3rd next year.
kennyo95 > thanks
mikefowler> KNOTT SCROLL TO THE TOP
LionJD > Well if we did fall to 5, we would still be able to get either Newman or Johnson, but I
would have a feeling we would want Kennedy,Yikes
coyote12 > I don't have fav Players Mike I am Lions first hell my Morton jersey and now new uniforms all old
LionJD > Kenny?Andre,lol
snoilog > Mike do you see alot of trades or not?
kennyo95 > yes
haplessfan > does anyone else think leftwich will be a much better QB than palmer?
Henrino > I have a Elliss and Sanders jeresy all torn up
mikefowler > KENNEDY WOULD BE A JOKE, SO WOULD NEWMAN, POOR VALUE, ROGERS IS A PRO BOWLER WAITING TO HAPPEN
LSB2006 > anybody still interested in s rogers mike
coyote12 > but when you say CC future star and Maghee future and few other choices I have read
of yours I wonder if your objective or just have your Fav's????
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Henrino > I want Rogers and Johnson
spike804 > Ithink Leftwich is the best QB in the draft.
LionJD > Well CC was considered best D player in 99 draft, ahead of CHamp,Kearse,Mcallister
fury91 > same here
mikefowler> HAPLESS, YOU COULD BE ON TO SOMETHING, PALMER COULD BE ANOTHER LEAF, A ONE YEAR WONDER, LEFTWICH SHOWS ME SOMETHING SO DOES REX GROSSMAN, WAY UNDERRATED
snoilog > So unless we dont get a 'deal we cant refuse' your saying dont trade it
moonlight > You've been saying Leftwich for 2 years spike
mikefowler > SNOI, EXACTLY, YOU'VE GOT TO GET YOUR MONEY'S WORTH
LSB2006 > what about boller, i think he's overrated
coyote12 > so is macghee, Fargus one year wonders
fury91 > If Leftwich had not been, injured, he would be signing a deal with the Bengals
mikefowler > AGREE, HE DID LOOK GOOD AGAINST STATE BUT WHO DIDN'T?
haplessfan > quit it larr...er, coyote
LionJD > Mcgahee was only a soph, its hard to play as a Frosh on that loaded Miami team
kennyo95 > leftwitch is the ultimate qb, so much heart
LSB2006 > get off of mcgahee coyote
snoilog > Mike, did you heard DE Mcdougal got arrested, he woulndt move for a cop.
LSB2006 > move on
mikefowler> SOME SAY GORE WAS BETTER THAN MCGAHEE
Spielman54 > we'll have to wait and see if they will be 1 yr wonders coyote!
fury91 > a lot say that
coyote12 > 3 years to come to pros
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mikefowler > SNOI--WHY DIDN'T STOCKAR GIVE HIM A CALL AND TELL HIM TO BE COOL UNTIL THE DRAFT?
Henrino > well some also say that Jones is better than Suggs
LionJD > The guy had 28 TD for the best team in the nation, tell me another RB thas has ever
done that, hes special when healthy
coyote12 > he ws listed as the starter by the HC
kennyo95 > gore did look good as a fresh
LSB2006 > i agree with that henrino
snoilog > wheres his agent.. Id be pissed.
froggyvk > whats happened so far?
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stanklove > mike what is the word on kelly washingtons injury and draft palcement?
mikefowler > JD, MAYBE BUT HE WOULD HAVE NEVER GOTTEN TO PLAY IF GORE DIDN'T HAVE THE KNEE
yknott > they have alot of one year wonders in miami
LSB2006 > kevin jones will be a stud
mikefowler > STANK, THE DRS SAY HE'S FINE
Henrino > Kevin Jones is a powerful runner
stanklove > is it a reoccuring kind of injury?
LionJD > Yeah he probably wouldnt have, he was a FB for the 2002 national championship
coyote12 > so you answered it Mike he is one year wonder
silky > if we take willis which current lions rb would be cut/traded?
LSB2006 > k washington is a c*ck
coyote12 > now with a blown knee
mikefowler > YEAH, BUT REMEMBER BARRY WAS BEHIND THURMAN FOR A YEAR TOO I THINK
LionJD > None silky, we ease Mcgahee in, no need to cut someone
coyote12 > and you think he is are future?
fury91 > Mike, can you give us a mock draft?????
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LSB2006 > exactly mike
LSB2006 > good call on barry/thurman
BT_Express > Wow, sure are a lot of Mike Fowler's in here answering questions today
stanklove > terell davis was behind somebody too
snoilog > on our site alot of fans started to give up on Mcgahee so thats part of the input
about him, including myself.. Now you got me wanting him again lol
Henrino > Roy Williams WR next year look out another stud
LSB2006 > is that the real BT express?
mikefowler > FURY PALMER, ROGERS, JOHNSON, ROBERTSON, NEWMAN
spike804 > Roy Williams LOL I still want him this year.
kennyo95 > braylon edwards baby