The signing of K-ROB? Sure, anyone can probably help at this point. However, is his baggage worth it? More importantly, why is TT always reacting rather than anticipating (i.e., reactive rather than proactive)? He is always waiting and picking up the has-beens, the crumbs, etc. The Vikings had a plan and went out and got there guy - Hutchinson. Atlanta got Abraham. We wait and get Woodson.
The storied franchise deserves better than Harlan, TT and MM. Under their leadership, it has fallen to the bottom of the league. It has become a laughing stock.
In addition, I am even disgusTed when an opponent (Chicago Bear DE Harris) is calling our cut back blocks cheap shots. Actually, I think he is correct.
This franchise absolutely needs new leadership to restore our credibility and respectability.
Harlan, TT and MM need to go now!
Bobio, firstname.lastname@example.org, Minnetonka, MN
A lot of work needs to be done
If you would have told me that Ahman Green was going to rush for 100+ yards and we were going to get shut out, I would have told you that you are NUTZ!!!
Ok, the pass interference call that Ferguson didn't get would have put 7 points, the refs blew it. Also, McCarthy could have challenged the spot of the ball on 4and 1, that's what a veteran coach would have done. And what is this that I keep hearing that he is a native from Pittsburgh, NO-NONSENSE type of guy. If he is, I haven't seen a flash of it. Take a look at Bill Cowher, when someone makes a mistake you know he comes down on them.
Now let's get to overpaid, over-hyped, and overrated Charles Woodson. He blew so many coverages. If this guy is worth $10 million, then I am worth $15 million. The secondary needs to get it together NOW, otherwise we will see these 3 WR's formations on third down, and get burned all the time, we couldn't stop them.
McCarthy should have hired the Steelers' secondary coach to be their defensive coordinator, that would have brought some discipline and toughness to our group.
Two things that need to improve in order for the season not to be a miserable one - our pass offense, and our pass defense (especially our pass defense). I am not saying playoffs, but definitely not 4-12.
Lou, email@example.com, Coral Springs, FL.
Thompson must go – big time!
I read some of the reaction on PackerReport.com and I agree that Ted Thompson must go because he has ruined this team big time with bargain players and he also signed Woodson to a big contract. What has Woodson done to prove that he is worth the money? Ted Thompson is no Ron Wolf. At least Wolf added some good players, like Reggie White and others to help us win a Super Bowl, but Thompson just keeps saying that we are not in a rebuilding year and we all can see we are. If he cares about how his team will be, then he would have added veteran guards and a little better defense players.
Don't get me wrong I think Hawk will be a good player, but they need better D-backs to help out Harris. Oh, I agree with one of the persons in here that asked, ‘Why did we keep Robert Ferguson?' I would really like to know myself because he has not done anything special the last couple of years.
I also read that a media person around Green Bay said he thinks we need to be patient with Ted Thompson and give him until 2008 before we give him a hard time. I totally disagree. I think Thompson needs to be fired before things get out of hand. Get a GM who will add veterans and rookies without making our team look bad every time it goes out their, and help Brett Favre get to the playoffs before he does retire. Oh, media, please leave Favre alone and go after Ted Thompson, OK?
Dean Closson, firstname.lastname@example.org, Green Bay, WI
Unfair to criticize Thompson for signing Robinson
Doesn't it amaze you that anyone would take such a stance on Koren's drinking problems in a state who brags about their drinking prowess, the claim to fame about their hard-drinking tailgate parties or their advertising of a brewer on the gates of Lambeau? All the taverns that get on the national news that surround the stadium.
Also, do we really think that no else wearing the Green and Gold doesn't drink and drive? Now I am aware of his past problems as anyone, but at the same time I have a problem with someone suggesting that it would in some way be Thompson's fault if indeed the unthinkable happens as a result that he signed him and made it the Packers responsible.
No one took a shot at the Packers for Mossy Cade or for Chmura. Seems that we have short memories. If I think about it a little longer I probably can think of a few other things people have done who have been connected to the Packers ... Let us just pray for the young man and hope that he learns something.
Steve, email@example.com, Janesville, WI
Robinson not the only player in NFL that has problems
Dear Mr. Korth,
I just read your article (Thompson puts neck on line, Sept. 12) on K-Rob and was very impressed with it. I agreed with everything you wrote. At last, a reporter who doesn't believe he is as perfect as Jesus Christ! I know you don't want to get into a war of words with a fellow reporter, but Christl's article about K-Rob was way over the top. He came across as a gigantic prick who has never made a mistake in his life. I am not excusing K-Rob's behavior nor do I agree with his actions. In fact, I am a cop, so I should hate his actions more than anyone. However, he will have to deal with that mess off the field not on.
K-Rob certainly isn't the only player in the NFL to have off the field problems and won't be the last. If he can help the Packers, then good! And if not, cut him. It's that simple. Thanks again for your refreshing look at the K-Rob signing. Fans HATE it when reporters get up on soap boxes and preach! You did a good job of expressing your opinions with out preaching. Keep up the good work. I just wish more fans could read your article!
Fire from within seems to be lacking in Packers
I know we all are licking our wounds from the Bears game last week. I have way too many friends from out of state, and they all have cell phones with lots of minutes. But more importantly, I am getting more and more concerned about the direction the Packers are taking, going back to the signing of Mr. McCarthy. I still believe Jim Bates had something special, and it was a proven fact - he turned our defense basically around. Mike McCarthy did not have a proven track record, and I was, unfortunately, not impressed with the play calling, or the demeanor of our team. We seem defeated already. There is no fire, no leader that is driving everyone around them. Kampman is a fantastic leader, one of my favorite players, but he is not a guy to yell at those around him and fire them up- he seems to me to lead by example, but he does so quietly. I would not trade him for anything, I think his example of hard work is priceless, but we are missing the fire. Favre? He also is not a vocal style leader. I know this is not popular to say, but he is not that type of leader. We need another "Reggie-style" presence to bring back what was once the Lambeau Mystique.
Koren Robinson, Morency, Samkon? All of these players may fit into a team, but the whole of the team reflects the leadership. I think the Packers are talented enough to make the playoffs. They are missing the heart. Did Vince Lombardi have the biggest and best players, or the ones that played the hardest? Why did they play so hard? Because they believed in their team, and it meant a lot to be a Green Bay Packer. I wish I had the answer of how to bring this back. Or who can step into that role. My heart is still with the Packers every weekend. I believe being a Packer is the greatest honor a football player can strive for. PLEASE bring back the Packer Pride through teamwork, hard work and most of all heart.
Jason Eckes, firstname.lastname@example.org, Deforest, WI
Favre deserves a better supporting cast than this!
Dear Mr. Korth,
This past Sunday, as the announcers discussed benching Favre, any learned student of the game, and especially of recent Packer history, would find it increasingly obvious that it is high time to begin finding fault elsewhere in the organization.
Since the time of Holmgren's departure, the Packers organization has been steadily moving in the opposite direction of the Broncos brain trust that finally carried Elway on its shoulders to the Super Bowl wins he so richly deserved. Whereas Elway's destiny was to enjoy the role of a great quarterback working with a superbly talented supporting cast of players and first-rate coaches, Favre's has been to stand ever the more alone while the ship gradually sinks into the sea around him. By now, in fact, the situation is totally reminiscent of John Wayne and the Cowboys, and it is a great, great pity to think that Favre returned for such a fiasco.
In the wake of his many interceptions last year, there was much talk of Favre being the reason that the Packers lost so many games in which the score was actually quite close. For my part, I think one should now begin to consider a different proposition, namely, that one of the chief reasons the Packers were still in those games at all was owing to No. 4 and, above all, his continually playing with but a single-minded purpose: to win.
After repeatedly being unable to convert in short-yardage situations during the first half of Sunday's game, and with the score ominously reflecting things on the ground, it was clear that there was only one thing to do: open up the air game and begin playing to win. To this end, Lovie Smith undoubtedly wrote the simple and winning script that every team will follow against the Packers this season, at least until things, perhaps at some later date, begin to improve: make life difficult for the rookie Jennings (though it probably wouldn't matter even if it were any of the seasoned veterans on the squad in his place) and force Driver to be the only viable target.
The rest was predictable: Coach McCarthy was said to have remarked, at halftime, that, though they didn't want to do it, they were going to have to put the ball in Favre's hands. What then transpired was equally predictable: Favre played to win; mistakes occurred in a hopeless contest; and, finally, the announcers speculated on Favre being benched, so that Rodgers could gain some experience, or maybe even turn the game around. In other words, the Packers tried to play conservatively and ended up far, far deeper in the hole even than they typically were last year.
We could mention a variety of weaknesses: an offensive line, which, though gradually beginning to open up lanes for an encouraging performance by Green, repeatedly failed to lead the charge in converting short-yardage situations; the special teams, which have seemingly not been taken as seriously as they should have been for many years now (Gado seems a curious choice as a returner, does he not?); a defensive backfield that was picked to pieces by a quarterback who, though clearly shining yesterday, was seen by many as being in a tenuous position at the beginning of this season; and a coaching staff that is still quite green, even by the most generous of measures (how emblematic that it should call on an aging quarterback, who was already enjoying precious little protection, to run a quarterback-sneak -- are there not other players on this team capable of getting the job done?) -- but the major problem, which, in my opinion, has been masked for years by Favre's pyrotechnics, is that this organization has been very poorly managed since the days of Wolf and Holmgren, to the point even that the rare opportunity of having one of top five or ten quarterbacks ever to play the game has been all but entirely squandered during the latter-half of his career.
We should all regret the fact that Favre will most likely not be allowed the good fortune of going out like Agassi. Rather, I fear he will be scapegoated like Pericles of Athens or possibly even injured -- and either would be very tragic indeed (in fact, either scenario would be nothing short of the most egregious injustice to a man who has given Packers so much over these past years).
In any event, I would appreciate it if we might see more coverage of such matters in the press. It is too easy to sit around and blame the face of the organization for problems which, on more careful reflection, lie much deeper and are far more long-standing and deeply-rooted than meets the eye.
Brook Blair, Brook.Blair@unco.edu, Boulder, CO
Hold off on buying a K-Rob jersey
Sounds like the same story, different city. Koren Robinson proclaims he "is not a bad person" and "maybe God didn't want him to be there" (in Minnesota). Maybe he needs to take a good look in the mirror and accept that God has nothing to do with him drinking and driving 100+ mph and being a total idiot.
I jumped on the Vikings/K-Rob bandwagon and believed in him and showed my support by ordering his jersey last Christmas ... what a joke. If anyone in Green Bay wants it they can have it for free. I won't even charge for shipping. It's pretty much like new as I never had a chance to wear to it this year. He let his team and the fans in Minnesota down and how anyone could put their trust in him or count on him to be truly committed baffles me. He needs to forget about professional football and devote his time and energy to staying sober.
Good luck to the Packers & please advise your readers not to get too excited or go out and buy K-Rob jerseys as it's just a waste of money.
Lisa H., email@example.com, in Bismarck, ND
Cut Robinson, Thompson a little slack
I enjoyed your articles on Koren Robinson. Both were positive and objective while considering Thompson's move to bring him to Green Bay as well as considering his substance abuse issues. They were very informative and thought provoking.
I applaud you for not taking the low road of trying to hang Thompson with being responsible for a possible vehicular homicide in the near future as some of the other Wisconsin sports media have as a result of their personal disapproval for the move. Hardly objective reporting and certainly sensationalism at its best. Packer Report is getting it done right!
I launched a constructive email to some of them in which I pointed out the hypocrisy of their articles when considering the fact that all sports venues also serve alcohol to the masses that attend the games, promote tailgate parties and could also be held to the same standard of culpability concerning alcohol related accidents when leaving the stadiums. Perhaps Miller Brewing Company should be removed as a sponsor of the Milwaukee Brewers stadium and Lambeau Field, and alcohol sales ceased or perhaps all tailgating with alcohol in Wisconsin should be outlawed due to a possible vehicular homicide that could result.
Finally, I also pointed out the hypocrisy of the news media which runs multitudes of advertising (much of it subliminal) alcoholic beverages as its life blood to exist, with its own reporters crying out foul by Thompson in bringing Robinson to Green Bay and brow beating him with a hypothetical drunk driving accident.
That is the low road without any stretch of the imagination. Wisconsin is well noted for its anti-alcoholism programs as we are, in fact, the largest consumer of alcohol per-capita in the United States and also share the associated alcoholic related issues. Perhaps Robinson has a "real" dialog with Thompson and never had a sincere dialog with Holmgren or Ziggy Wilf? We will not know until some time goes by.
My take on this move is positive. Yes, Robinson will have to face the legal issues as well as the NFL consequences. However, if given a few weeks, you can bet another team would have snatched him up and put him to work while also supposedly working out those issues on the side. If nothing else, in the end some team would either have a reformed Robinson performing at a high level or a total bust sent packing. In this case it is Packers who made the bold and risky and perceived desperate move. At least Thompson had the onions to make a move at this time. In time we will all know if this was a good move.
Until then, I say let the man work. For a recovering alcoholic (assuming he is one without having an official diagnosis by a professional), work is a very good thing. It helps to rebuild self esteem and self worth. Let's hope Thompson is in Robinson's back pocket watching every move he makes and getting his thought process fixed. And let's also hope that the Wisconsin sports media stops trying to be the Packers' GM in absentia, it's becoming boring. Nothing worse than two reporters interviewing each other and beating the same drum as they agree with each other... kind of like Beavis and Butthead doing sports. That is the trend today with many sports radio and TV shows and some of them involve local sports media members. Congratulations on taking the road less traveled.
Mike K., firstname.lastname@example.org, Green Bay
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