Redskins 411: Offseason Program Debated

Redskins 411 01.22.07--Joe Gibbs is proud of his team's attendance at offseason workouts at Redskins Park, but some veterans wonder the "one size fits all" approach really works.

 
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As they crashed from a divisional round playoff appearance in 2005 to a 5-11 record in 2006, veteran Redskins grumbled about the team's demanding offseason conditioning program.

While the program is "voluntary," there has been tremendous pressure on the players to be on hand four days a week from mid-March to mid-June. Coach Joe Gibbs has been proud of an attendance record of more than 95 percent in recent springs, but the veterans would like to see changes.

"When I came here (in 2004), I was big and strong and powerful," defensive end Phillip Daniels said. "I ran through people. I can't do that now. We all do the same program, no matter if you're a receiver or a D-lineman. You're going to run those 100-yard sprints, do the circuit (weight training). But what I need ain't what (receiver) Santana Moss needs. I need burst, quickness, reaction-type stuff."

Daniels said that if he works out at home in Georgia, he can train with another defensive lineman or two on skills specific to that position.

"I'll do what coach Gibbs asks me to do, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't want to go back and do what I need to do to get ready," Daniels added. "I was a better player when I was doing my own thing. When guys have been doing their own thing and been successful doing it, they probably need to go back and do those things that are best for this team to win."

Center Casey Rabach isn't a champion power-lifter like Daniels, but he has his own gripes about the offseason program.

"With the (installation of the) new offense this year, they ran us into the ground and it showed up in a lot of situations," Rabach said. "Guys' legs were dead-tired. In Baltimore (his previous team), they had passing camps instead of OTA days. The linemen didn't have to be there unless the coach asked you to come. And we would go for 45 minutes to an hour. We weren't there 8-5 like we are here."

Strength coach John Hastings said the players' gripes are unfounded.

"We have a skeleton of a program and adaptations are made within that to fit individual needs, even going as far as substituting movements with ones they're more comfortable with," said Hastings, a 12-year NFL veteran. "There are good, solid movements that are safe in all facets of lifting that can be put together in an effective football strength and conditioning program. If Phillip wants to add parts of his power-lifting program, he can. I've told him that."

Like Hastings, Gibbs will consider changes.

"I don't think we're afraid to change," Gibbs said. "Can you be here too much? I don't know. I do believe that for a certain amount of time the team needs to be together. We thought we had a good program, but obviously we didn't play well this year. We didn't start well. It matters to me what the players think."

Rabach said that the Redskins need to listen to the players.

"There's something to be said for getting away from each other, getting away from the football scene for a little while, recharging your battery," Rabach said. "One thing I liked in Baltimore a lot was if you could do what you needed to do somewhere else, feel free. I (know) that they have a lot of money invested in us and I can understand them wanting to keep a close eye on us. But we're men. We know what we need to get done to be in shape for minicamp and training camps and we know the consequences if we're not."

Player Notes

--DE Philip Daniels was ashamed of Washington's crash from third in defense in 2004 and ninth in 2005 to 31st this year.

"We fell a long way," Daniels said. "I'm embarrassed. I just hope we can get back to where we were the last two years."

Daniels was particularly embarrassed that the Redskins broke the record for the fewest turnovers (12) by a team in a 16-game season.

"You never want to have a record like (that)," Daniels said. "That record sums up the season. A lot of things didn't bounce our way."

--Defensive end Renaldo Wynn knows that after losing his starting job to Andre Carter last season, with a $4.03 million salary cap number and his 33rd birthday on the horizon, he have played his last game as a Redskin after five years in Washington.

"I hope they decide to keep the core guys around and I feel I'm one of those guys," Wynn said. "But I also know they can't keep everybody."

QUOTE TO NOTE: "We can talk about anything with each other. We play together. We support each other." -- Daniels on the chemistry of the defensive line. He, Wynn, tackles Cornelius Griffin, Joe Salave'a and Ryan Boschetti and ends Renaldo Wynn and Demetric Evans have all played together for three years.


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As they crashed from a divisional round playoff appearance in 2005 to a 5-11 record in 2006, veteran Redskins grumbled about the team's demanding offseason conditioning program.\r\n

While the program is "voluntary," there has been tremendous pressure on the players to be on hand four days a week from mid-March to mid-June. Coach Joe Gibbs has been proud of an attendance record of more than 95 percent in recent springs, but the veterans would like to see changes.\r\n

"When I came here (in 2004), I was big and strong and powerful," defensive end Phillip Daniels said. "I ran through people. I can't do that now. We all do the same program, no matter if you're a receiver or a D-lineman. You're going to run those 100-yard sprints, do the circuit (weight training). But what I need ain't what (receiver) Santana Moss needs. I need burst, quickness, reaction-type stuff."\r\n

Daniels said that if he works out at home in Georgia, he can train with another defensive lineman or two on skills specific to that position.\r\n

"I'll do what coach Gibbs asks me to do, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't want to go back and do what I need to do to get ready," Daniels added. "I was a better player when I was doing my own thing. When guys have been doing their own thing and been successful doing it, they probably need to go back and do those things that are best for this team to win."\r\n

Center Casey Rabach isn't a champion power-lifter like Daniels, but he has his own gripes about the offseason program.\r\n

"With the (installation of the) new offense this year, they ran us into the ground and it showed up in a lot of situations," Rabach said. "Guys' legs were dead-tired. In Baltimore (his previous team), they had passing camps instead of OTA days. The linemen didn't have to be there unless the coach asked you to come. And we would go for 45 minutes to an hour. We weren't there 8-5 like we are here."\r\n

Strength coach John Hastings said the players' gripes are unfounded.\r\n

"We have a skeleton of a program and adaptations are made within that to fit individual needs, even going as far as substituting movements with ones they're more comfortable with," said Hastings, a 12-year NFL veteran. "There are good, solid movements that are safe in all facets of lifting that can be put together in an effective football strength and conditioning program. If Phillip wants to add parts of his power-lifting program, he can. I've told him that."\r\n

Like Hastings, Gibbs will consider changes.\r\n

"I don't think we're afraid to change," Gibbs said. "Can you be here too much? I don't know. I do believe that for a certain amount of time the team needs to be together. We thought we had a good program, but obviously we didn't play well this year. We didn't start well. It matters to me what the players think."\r\n

Rabach said that the Redskins need to listen to the players.\r\n

"There's something to be said for getting away from each other, getting away from the football scene for a little while, recharging your battery," Rabach said. "One thing I liked in Baltimore a lot was if you could do what you needed to do somewhere else, feel free. I (know) that they have a lot of money invested in us and I can understand them wanting to keep a close eye on us. But we're men. We know what we need to get done to be in shape for minicamp and training camps and we know the consequences if we're not."

Player Notes\r\n

--DE Philip Daniels was ashamed of Washington's crash from third in defense in 2004 and ninth in 2005 to 31st this year.\r\n

"We fell a long way," Daniels said. "I'm embarrassed. I just hope we can get back to where we were the last two years."\r\n

Daniels was particularly embarrassed that the Redskins broke the record for the fewest turnovers (12) by a team in a 16-game season.\r\n

"You never want to have a record like (that)," Daniels said. "That record sums up the season. A lot of things didn't bounce our way."\r\n

--Defensive end Renaldo Wynn knows that after losing his starting job to Andre Carter last season, with a $4.03 million salary cap number and his 33rd birthday on the horizon, he have played his last game as a Redskin after five years in Washington.\r\n

"I hope they decide to keep the core guys around and I feel I'm one of those guys," Wynn said. "But I also know they can't keep everybody."\r\n

QUOTE TO NOTE: "We can talk about anything with each other. We play together. We support each other." -- Daniels on the chemistry of the defensive line. He, Wynn, tackles Cornelius Griffin, Joe Salave'a and Ryan Boschetti and ends Renaldo Wynn and Demetric Evans have all played together for three years.

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