Steelers Free Agency - Draft Chat Transcript

Transcript of Thursdays chat with Jim Wexell and Dale Lolley. Talk was centered on NFL Draft, Steelers Free Agency and many tidbits from Steeler country.

DaleLolley:: What's up Joe, I started early

GFYAC:: Foote was a 4th rounder

steelmann58:: hey Joe

ChipTheSteelerFan:: hi Joe

DaleLolley:: Fourth round, fifth round. It's all the same

GFYAC:: should've been a 5th rounder...we reached

fury1:: WILL WE DRAFT A RB, IF SO EARLY OR LATER IN THE DRAFT ?

steelmann58:: I think Matt Roth would be ok too 

ChipTheSteelerFan:: Day 2 on a RB

SteelCitySports:: Hello !

heinzfield:: The thing to remember about tweener DE's and 3-4 OLB's is that they are in higher demand with the 3-4 phasing back in That's why I see us finding the next solid OLB/DE

ChipTheSteelerFan:: Supply is way bigger than demand on RBs

steelmann58:: guys you all know I think Roper will make next year team

DaleLolley:: There are a ton of tweeners in this draft

DaleLolley:: I like Roper

ChipTheSteelerFan:: I think Swanncut is the next Alonzo

DaleLolley:: There's only one AJax, thank god

steelmann58:: as long as they don't reach for another Jackson

GFYAC:: yeah lots of Tweeners...and we don't need a starter or #1 back-up...just a developmental guy better than Alonzo...that can't be hard to find even in round 4 or 5

fury1:: DON'T CURSE THE GUY LIKE THAT

heinzfield:: I like Matt Roth also.

ChipTheSteelerFan:: I have been praising Roth since preseason

steelmann58:: I think day 2 draft will be very important to the Steelers 

DaleLolley:: They wouldn't know what to do with Roth. He'd be another Vrabel.

GFYAC:: They have to do better on day 2

steelmann58:: I think Roper will be on the 53 next year

fury1:: NEED TO DO BETTER THAN LAST YEAR

ChipTheSteelerFan:: I believe that Dale since I am not sure if he would play OLB or beef up to play DE

heinzfield:: Chip he is a solid player...I coach at the NAIA college level and we play the 3-4...form what I have seen he can play in our scheme(Steelers)

GFYAC:: we only have 1 guy left from last year...and he was only on the practice squad

steelmann58:: please last year they looked lost

steelmann58:: Taylor

ChipTheSteelerFan:: Heinz, where do you coach?

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ChipTheSteelerFan:: hi #1

NumberOneSteelerFan:: hi chip

steelmann58:: dale seen they added Burr again man he hugh to bad grimm can't help him out

heinzfield:: I coach in North Dakota. Jamestown College...

DaleLolley:: I liked Taylor's motor, but he didn't always seem to be going in the right direction. Always getting bitched at by Mitch

ChipTheSteelerFan:: Oh

GFYAC:: Steelers have to address their Back-up OT/G position...will they draft them or sign them from FA

DaleLolley:: Burr's fodder. Couldn't cut it before and he didn't get any faster after that knee injury

ChipTheSteelerFan:: there was always a chance that I heard of it, but nope

steelmann58:: lol maybe Taylor can get his act together

DaleLolley:: Taylor has great size. He looks the part

steelmann58:: knowing the Steelers they will sign a vet tackle

DaleLolley:: Very active hands on the pass rush, but doesn't always go anywhere

GFYAC:: he was a playmaker in college too wasn't he..meaning Taylor

ChipTheSteelerFan:: Dale, Shawn praises Jim Jones, what is your opinion of him. I think if he is as good as Shawn says he is, he would at least be dressing for a team on Sunday

steelmann58:: ok guys will The Steelers Look at Trading Maddox

GFYAC:: are you kidding?

ChipTheSteelerFan:: its possible

ChipTheSteelerFan:: trade Tommy for a 3rd and sign a vet backup (Fiedler?) or just use Charlie

GFYAC:: then we would have another hole to fill

DaleLolley:: Jones dressing came down to numbers. I like Jones as a backup. Don't know that I want to count on him as a starter. But that's why they'll bring in a vet swing guy. Trading Maddox is possible, though not likely. Batch would come back for the minimum.

DaleLolley:: Or close to it.

heinzfield:: Maddox stays...You need 2 solid QB's at this level to be good. I am not saying Maddox is great, but he can win games for a short periods of time 3-4 game stretches

ChipTheSteelerFan:: This is why the Pats are better. They traded Bledsoe for picks. They dumped Milloy to sign Harrison. 

GFYAC:: right on

DaleLolley:: But if he says he doesn't want to be here. They don't want guys who don't want to be a part of this.

GFYAC:: OK...they got a #1 and more for Bledsoe

GFYAC:: they are talking a #3 for Maddox...how does that help

DaleLolley:: Be lucky to get a 5 for Maddox

ChipTheSteelerFan:: exactly dale

steelmann58:: I agree get players who want to be here

GFYAC:: also Maddox is not making a whole lot compared to other back-ups

ChipTheSteelerFan:: a 5? I guess Washington won't be fishing again this year

GFYAC:: Bledsoe was eating cap

steelmann58:: so what way is the bus leaning

ChipTheSteelerFan:: but they still traded him

fury1:: ANY NEWS ON CONTRACT EXTENSIONS - OR IS IT TO EARLY ?

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ChipTheSteelerFan:: Brady was making nothing so Bledsoe's contract balanced out

heinzfield:: If I am a betting man, Bettis retires

DaleLolley:: Maddox will be 33. I don't think he's going anywhere. No news on extensions yet. Everybody's in Hawaii.

ChipTheSteelerFan:: hi blitz

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steelmann58:: dale bettis retires?

BlitzburghD:: Hey Chip

DaleLolley:: I don't think so. Won't want to share the Hall of Fame stage with Emmitt.

ChipTheSteelerFan:: how are you tonight blitz?

DaleLolley:: Just kidding

GFYAC:: lol

BlitzburghD:: I'm good, man... you?

ChipTheSteelerFan:: Dale, that is funny since I used that as an excuse for Bettis not being a first ballot HOFer if he retires with Emmitt

heinzfield:: OK guys, other tweener DE's you have liked

GFYAC:: Dale..what is your opinion of Brandon Browner

ChipTheSteelerFan:: I am talking Steeler football, so I am happy blitz

BlitzburghD:: Amen

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ChipTheSteelerFan:: plus the wife can't give me a hard time since she and the kid are watching the OC

steelmann58:: matt roth

steelmann58:: but I also like a true dt like luis castillo

heinzfield:: I agree on Roth, I hope I am right on him 

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DaleLolley:: He's a first-time HOFer regardless of who else is on the list. I haven't seen enough of Browner yet. Just bits and pieces. But he's got great size. I like Tuck.

steelmann58:: also Dave Pollack

BlitzburghD:: So who's this year's Ben, Chip... are you onto any one prospect yet?

steelmann58:: Jimmy verdon

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ChipTheSteelerFan:: no, not yet

heinzfield:: Pollack will not be around, but I agree, he is good...

steelmann58:: guys what do you think if we draft Chris Canty in the 3rd

GFYAC:: Notre Dame...yeah...Tuck could be a terrific Tweener

DaleLolley:: Canty's had injury probs - no?

ChipTheSteelerFan:: Ben was easy after watching him in college then listening to the experts fall in love with Rivers

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ChipTheSteelerFan:: hi wex

DaleLolley:: What's up Wex

jimwexell:: Hey Guys

BlitzburghD:: Me either... though you could guess my greatest position of need

DaleLolley:: I started early

steelblitzkrieg:: I'm red

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BlitzburghD:: Hey Wex

steelblitzkrieg:: Dammit Blitz

heinzfield:: hey wex

jimwexell:: Blitz, dale, Chip, blitzkrieg, heinz -- what's up fellas?

steelblitzkrieg:: I'm green

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GFYAC:: Where do you think Rian Wallace will fall

GFYAC:: Could the Steelers Steel him in round 3

heinzfield:: Just starting to sort through the off season...

ChipTheSteelerFan:: just talking steeler football and being happy

jimwexell:: I haven't seen him play. I tried to avoid Temple this year.

steelmann58:: hi Jim

steelblitzkrieg:: Much better, hey Jim.

DaleLolley:: Newly married Hawg joined us. Wow. How'd you slip away, Hawg?

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SteelCitySports:: Hello everyone

heinzfield:: I haven't seen enough of Wallace to pass judgment

ChipTheSteelerFan:: I read Browner is HOPING to run a 4.5. I think that is bad when a CB is hoping to run a 4.5

BlitzburghD:: Congrats, Hawg

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SteelerHawg:: i've been married 1.5 years now .... I think she's sick of me

steelmann58:: I think that why Canty will fall but worth a 3rd rounder

jimwexell:: steelman, everyone else. I know I won't be -- Hawg, congratulations! -- but I know I won't be able to keep up, so pardon my plodding. I'll try to answer all the questions you may have.

steelblitzkrieg:: Hawg married? Wow, congrats.

DaleLolley:: I thought you just got married Hawg

BlitzburghD:: Hey Joe, Dale... missed you cats on the way in the door

GFYAC:: Wallace was a playmaker who can play both ILB-OLB

ChipTheSteelerFan:: Apple just got married

GFYAC:: OCngrats Apple

SteelerHawg:: indeed, Apple it was (I couldn't remember myself)

heinzfield:: GFYAC...What are Wallaes measurable??

DaleLolley:: Sorry Hawg. That's why Apple's not here.

steelblitzkrieg:: No more girlapple? Bossapple now!

DaleLolley:: He's in bed right now

BlitzburghD:: Congrats anyway, Hawg... just for being you

GFYAC:: 6'4 240

steelmann58:: Jim who was the reporter that stole your credit I remember talking about this on the other web site 

SteelerHawg:: thanx Double D! 

GFYAC:: runs in the neighborhood of 4.7...4.75

jimwexell:: GFYAC, it sounds like you know a little about Wallace. What can you tell us?

DaleLolley:: Wallace could go inside or out. Kind of like Chad Brown

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heinzfield:: GFYAC...Did he play in any of the post season all star games..I was busy recruiting so I didn't see those games

steelmann58:: I think two players who have injury problems can be steals 

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jimwexell:: Yes, congrats on being Hawg!

DaleLolley:: But you have to wonder about Temple guys. All that losing &

steelmann58:: Cnaty in the 3rd

steelmann58:: Canty

SteelerHawg:: thx wex .... it's more of a curse, really

SteelerHawg:: 

steelmann58:: and Munoz around round 4

HarryAWay:: Hey guys.

GFYAC:: Nkwenti not withstanding

ChipTheSteelerFan:: but this was Cory Dillon's first winning season. He did alright after leaving Cincy

fury1:: WE HAVE NOT DRAFTED A GOOD PLAYER FROM TEMPLE YET

jimwexell:: Jerry D didn't necessarily steal my credit, but he didn't give me none. No biggie. I really shouldn't be whining about it.

DaleLolley:: Boy, we've got a crew in here

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SteelCitySports:: "Hawg" is the man !

GFYAC:: here is a skinny written about Wallace:

heinzfield:: Munoz is soft IMO, I don't like him, but I respect your opinion Steelman

SteelerHawg:: what's the good word on Randy Moss wanting to come to Steel town - more Raven fan whining?

ChipTheSteelerFan:: hi Harry

steelmann58:: another Dot Atiyyah Ellison

DaleLolley:: Please, no Randy Moss stuff. Crash/Trap has beaten that to death

HarryAWay:: So, who are the guys that are free agents that the Steelers liked coming out of college?

jimwexell:: steelmann, I don't know about Munoz. He's had pretty serious and steady knee problems.

GFYAC:: A natural Football player that consistently makes positive things happen

steelblitzkrieg:: Moss? No mas?

ChipTheSteelerFan:: dale and wex, since this upcoming season is ARE's contract year, has there been any mention of extending him?

SteelChowder:: I thought they liked Stockar McDougal.

ChipTheSteelerFan:: all the talk is about Hines and Plax

steelmann58:: hey Harry

SteelerHawg:: will we even be a playa in FA - after reading Wex's blog today, sounds like we might need to cut everyone to get under the cap!!

DaleLolley:: I don't think they can afford to extend ARE at this point

GFYAC:: Wallace stands out on film because of his propensity to be around the action

jimwexell:: Hawg, I haven't even bothered thinking about Moss in Pittsburgh. There is no chance. None.

GFYAC:: Definitely has the ability to play in an array of systems in the NFL

heinzfield:: GFYAC...If you are around the ball a lot you can play the game...obviously...

BlitzburghD:: Let Mark Clayton be ARE insurance

DaleLolley:: That's what I said Wex. They wouldn't have drafted him

SteelPatrick:: (some generic wrestling them song plays) Heading down to the chat room. From the Dirty South at 6'3 and 350 lbs of Steel City Love. Steeeel Pedro...oops...I mean Patrick. 

jimwexell:: Dale, is Crash Trap? I was wondering about that. I do remember Trap really hating Madden though.

ChipTheSteelerFan:: too bad Dale. They could have probably gotten a good deal on ARE like they did with Hines

SteelPatrick:: thanks you thank you

steelmann58:: Wex who was the reporter is he still writing

DaleLolley:: That was Dirt's theory, Jim

SouthernStiller:: Hello everyone. Any news on what the FO is going to offer Plax?

jimwexell:: Harry, I'd need a list of those free agents in front of me. I can't think of any right now. I like to go back through the old Answer Man columns for UFA info.

BlitzburghD:: I doubt it, Wex... he'd be talking in third person... Crash knows football... shit like that

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steelmann58:: fed 15 is the date for franchise a player

jimwexell:: I haven' t heard any mention of extending ARE. 

DaleLolley:: Philly franchised Simon today

ChipTheSteelerFan:: thanks dale and wex

steelmann58:: the Steelers will probably look for a vet Ot at the min

SteelerHawg:: I'd imagine Hines is the only 1-yr left guy to get any love this year, no?

CSyry:: Hampton, perhaps?

heinzfield:: Hines will get his extension...

ChipTheSteelerFan:: hopefully Casey will too

jimwexell:: Blitz, my hunch is that Mark Clayton will be an Eagle. Bye bye Freddie, Pinky.

steelmann58:: no question Hines gets the cash he deserves

ChipTheSteelerFan:: did you hear Freddie bitching about TO?

SteelCitySports:: Jim and Dale, what do you think about Jerry Porter.......... or any WR.......... If Ward is the number 1 guy, doesn't that mean we cant go after a namer in free agency ? I mean, would that not piss off Ward ?

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ChipTheSteelerFan:: The Raiders need to lineup Freddie Mitchell opposite of Plax

SteelerHawg:: Chip - you think they want Casey to play a season after that knee, or would they give him some perhaps after mini/training camps?

GFYAC:: Too much money for Porter

steelmann58:: Joe maybe Bradford who be mentioned allot

HarryAWay:: I liked your article today Wex. Sounds to me like there is a subtle hint that Claiborne might be a guy that look at if the price is right.

DaleLolley:: Porter is going to be too expensive. He will end up being the big FA wide receiver this offseason, not Plex.

GFYAC:: if they would spend that much they might as well franchise Plax

BlitzburghD:: Sign David Givens

ChipTheSteelerFan:: good point hawg

SteelPatrick:: BIGGEST NFL QUESTION: Should Pat Tillman Be in the HOF??

oregonmooch:: when do the steelers have to tag a player a franchise player?

DaleLolley:: I hate Claiborne

CSyry:: dale, what about houshmandzadeh in cincy. is he a possibility

SteelerHawg:: Givens will get the mid tender if they can't work something out sooner, IMO.

SteelPatrick:: that is the question everyone is asking

heinzfield:: David Givens is another viable option

SteelerHawg:: no way we should give up a 1st for him

BlitzburghD:: He'd be perfect opposite Ward

jimwexell:: steelman, it's Jerry DiPaola. He did the Rasheed Marshall story today. It made me think of that old story. I try to keep that blog a stream of consciousness kind of thing. I hope it doesn't get confusing. I link to stories and write about them as if you've opened the link. That could be a fatal mistake.

DaleLolley:: Houshmandzadeh is slow and injury prone.

steelmann58:: I think feb 15

steelblitzkrieg:: Pat Tillman...no way!!!

HarryAWay:: The question I'll ask is if you think he can do a better job than Foote?

ChipTheSteelerFan:: no, Tillman shouldn't be in the HOF

steelmann58:: steelers need a speed guy

CSyry:: what about all the talk about bubba franks 

SteelChowder:: For the receiver position - - there's no way Mays will be the third receiver, right? I mean, we'll do something, right?

GFYAC:: Green Bay will outbid the Steelers for him

SteelerHawg:: I like the GA boys , Brown over Gibson - think one (or both) be available in the 2nd?

DaleLolley:: Mays can't be No. 3. Can't

SteelPatrick:: If he were to go in, he wouldn't go as a player but as a symbol.

heinzfield:: Claiborne is not an upgrade over Foote

GFYAC:: Mays will be gone...Cobb will hopefully be healthy

DaleLolley:: I like Cobb a lot.

HarryAWay:: I'm ok with the guy being Trotter or Hartwell but Claiborne seems like he would be most affordable. Claiborne not better than Foote? HAHA! What a laugh.

steelmann58:: I don't think franks a fit here

SteelChowder:: If Plax goes and we don't sign a FA, what round would you expect us to take a WR in?

heinzfield:: Will Cobb bounce back form injury to be ready by mini camp?

SteelPatrick:: Zamir "Corn" Cobb ??

CSyry:: mike williams, perhaps?

BlitzburghD:: Anyone like Charles Lee on the cheap?

DaleLolley:: Cobb is a smooth operator

jimwexell:: SouthernStiller, I believe Bouchette was right when he said they'd make a record offer, so I assume it will be about $9.5M bonus. My source who told me Art II wanted to franchise Plax now says it was Colbert who wanted to do that. I said, 'you told me Art II' two weeks ago. He said: No I didn't. Sorry.

GFYAC:: Mike Williams will not see pick 30

steelmann58:: cobb a possion guy who they need

SteelerHawg:: whoa ... looks like I'm late to the dance - franchise Plax? is that a possibility now?

HarryAWay:: If they make Plax a record offer before they do something with Hines I think that's not kosher.

SteelPatrick:: Who is your favorite Steeler heading to NFL Europe

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SteelPatrick:: ?

DaleLolley:: Cobb is sneaky getting open across the middle. He's Bobby Shaw with balls.

GFYAC:: right but Ward cannot beat the double team...is ARE good enough?

SouthernStiller:: Thanks Wex. That sounds like they are going after him pretty hard, what does that mean for Ward's number.

steelmann58:: I think if they draft miller and add Bradford they will be fine

jimwexell:: We ought to introduce Crash to Mill and then they can call Madden and have a grand ol time hating the world.

BlitzburghD:: Great line, Dale

GFYAC:: Miller the CB right

CSyry:: bottom line, is plaxico a steeler next year?

GFYAC:: great player

BlitzburghD:: Harry likes guys with balls

CSyry:: I like carlos rogers or marlin Jackson as cornerback possibilities

steelmann58:: I liked cobb in college 

SteelPatrick:: how mocuh cap space do we have???

steelmann58:: he will make the 53 man also

steelblitzkrieg:: Blitz doesn't like guy's without balls...Bell?

GFYAC:: I hope Marlin Jackson does not come here

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heinzfield:: Marlin Jackson ahs dropped off in the last 2 years

GFYAC:: Can't imagine he is a "stellers" type guy

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HarryAWay:: That's why Bell's not high on my favorites.

steelmann58:: I don't see them going defense in round 1

SteelPatrick:: I meant much. I type too fast.

CSyry:: the browner kid intrigues me

fury1:: I LIKE A WR FROM NORTHERN COLORADO - VINCENT JACKSON

steelmann58:: hey all bets are off if Brown is there at 30

SteelerHawg:: jackson's a NFL FS, I believe ... no way we should take one in the 1st, IMO

Tyranid:: I just hate seeing us lose both bell and burress with no compensation, is franchising burress with the interest of trading him even a possibility?

GFYAC:: Love the Browner kid...but he will move up fast

GFYAC:: not many Sophomores who are 6'4 220

SteelChowder:: isn't it a pipe dream to believe Brown will be there at 30?

GFYAC:: that can play Corner

steelblitzkrieg:: Jim/Dale What are the odds we take Heath Miller, if he drops, or Alex Smith in the 1st?

DaleLolley:: Scott Shieds was 6-4 220.

heinzfield:: Carlos Rogers can play...I liked him in the Sugar Bowl...

BlitzburghD:: To each his own, Harry... I just think there is more to it

steelmann58:: miller would be my choice

DaleLolley:: I like both of those TEs. But they are TEs.

jimwexell:: Harry, Claiborne is a figment of my imagination. I have heard nothing about who they like. Like I wrote, they're all in Hawaii. As for Foote, I remember a couple of scouts in preseason betting on the goal line drill. Then one said, Oh, no, Foote's playing. I forgot. Can we cancel that bet? I walked over and they shut up. But I thought Foote played well. Obviously you can win with him.

ChipTheSteelerFan:: Scott Shields was a nice guy

steelmann58:: smith in round 2 or 3

HarryAWay:: I'll be waiting for your story on those free agents that the Steelers have had interest on in the past Wex.

GFYAC:: Browner can develop into a Great CB...and they have at least 1 year before they HAVE to start him

steelmann58:: dale you don't like te in round 1

Tyranid:: is the interest in barnes real on the part of the steelers or is that just a smokescreen?

DaleLolley:: Not particularly

CSyry:: does moss' availability and jerry porter's free agency knock down burress' value to a reasonable level the steelers can afford to pay for him

steelmann58:: ok cool

HarryAWay:: I'll go on record saying Foote was a pleasant surprise this year filling in for Bell but I'd also rate his position, Kimo's and the corner opposite 

Townsend needing upgrade.

BlitzburghD:: You have to work harder for those wins, Wex... that's my beef

jimwexell:: They have to pay Ward more than Burress because of the 4 to 0 Pro Bowls. Like it or not, that's how the Steelers operate. Pro Bowls may be political, but they mean a lot to brass.

steelmann58:: if they go wr Williamson from S car is my choice

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DaleLolley:: Man, this is the biggest chat yet

SteelChowder:: I'm with you steelman - - although that UAB kid is interesting too.

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SteelerHawg:: we had some good ones going draft w/e last year

heinzfield:: DE in round 1

steelmann58:: Ricardo will be opposite deshea

SteelerHawg:: chats, that is

GFYAC:: CB round 1

CSyry:: I say corner or wide receiver in round 1

ChipTheSteelerFan:: dale, during the draft last year, the chat room was maxed out and people couldn't log on

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jimwexell:: I doubt Plax is a Steeler next year because of what they'll have to pay Ward.

SteelPatrick:: I think the RFAs who are gone are Hope, Foote, and Haynes. Reed, Keisel and Mays are here to stay.

DaleLolley:: That's why I couldn't get in, I guess

BlitzburghD:: Ok, so who is with me on Bubba-freaking-Franks

steelblitzkrieg:: Allot of talk lately about Rooney only interested in fielding a team that puts people in the seats, and not really trying to win the SB. any comments?

steelmann58:: I agree steel chowder he a good choice also as well as roby either in 2 or 3

Tyranid:: I like Franks.. what is the price tag on a solid te like him in free agency?

CSyry:: steelers don't throw to the tight end, so I can't see it happening, blitz

jimwexell:: I think Marlin Jackson is too physical to adapt to the new non-contact rules. I think CBs may not be as valuable as they were last year. I think pass-rushers are more important now. That said, I love Carlos Rodgers.

BlitzburghD:: That's a myth... get him Dale

ibleedBLACKandGOLD81:: dale/jim - what is plax's salary next year if they put the franchise or transition tag on him?

steelmann58:: Jim will they franchise him and trade him

DaleLolley:: They want to win a Super Bowl. Don't get me started on the don't throw to the TE crap. Franks is OK, but you may have to overpay.

GFYAC:: Rogers, Miller (CB) or Browner in round 1B

SteelCitySports:: Chip ---- The chat room will never be maxed out again. We can have up to 5000 people in here at one time..... If we get more than that, I will get 

another chat room 

steelblitzkrieg:: CS, We did when Neil was here, ever since we haven't had a quality QB to throw it to the TE?

heinzfield:: Wex, I stated the same thing about Rogers a few posts ago....He can play, period

steelmann58:: I agree Franks is overrated 

steelblitzkrieg:: SCS...Ouch my eyes are burning.

SteelCitySports:: Sorry BLITZ :( wrong button

SteelerHawg:: sbk - it's better than pink!

CSyry:: I see it the other way steelblitz

Tyranid:: overrated? It's hard to find pass catching tightends who can actually block..

ChipTheSteelerFan:: WOW. Great job joe (at changing from yellow LOL) that will be a lot of people.

SteelChowder:: any chances the Steelers trade up this year in round one?

CSyry:: bruener was good enough, but we tomczak, miller, kordell, etc

ChipTheSteelerFan:: I hope we do max out the chat room on draft day again

steelmann58:: I think the opposite steel might happen

oregonmooch:: any chance they'll let plex go& go after porter?

HarryAWay:: I'll be in New York at the Draft again this year.

DaleLolley:: I don't think they'll trade up since they have no great need. Stay at home and let a good player fall

steelblitzkrieg:: I had red,, then I noticed BD had it first, then I went green and someone took it...I'm man enough.

heinzfield:: I believe Ernest Shazor is a better prospect than Marlin Jackson...

BlitzburghD:: I think he's been underutilized in GB

Tyranid:: ooh fun fun.. too bad its not at MSG

CSyry:: shazor is great against the run, so-so against the pass. he might move to lb.

HarryAWay:: Would the Steelers consider Shazor as a fast linebacker like they did Taylor last year?

jimwexell:: Tyranid, I doubt they'll trade Burress via franchise-and-trade. The NFLPA is trying to outlaw that maneuver and the Rooneys have never been mavericks with the rules. As far as compensation, they will have the 8-9M Plax didn't take and they will sign someone else. As for Heath Miller, he fits a position of need and makes up for the loss of Plax in some ways. If they draft a WR first, he'd sit behind ARE. I don't know if you could say that about Miller and Tuman.

steelmann58:: they not going to waste big money on franks

ChipTheSteelerFan:: harry, I read the draft won't be at MSG

SteelChowder:: we have a lot of teams around us that like to move - - Philly seems to always trade up -- NE moves a lot too

BlitzburghD:: Anyone who can make the TE a weapon again in Pittsburgh is worth the coin. Look what they paid Bruener...

GFYAC:: I say...Justin Miller round 1...J.R. Russell Round 2 and Rian Wallace round 3

CSyry:: I'm sorry, I'm just not comfortable with randle el starting

heinzfield:: I view Shazor as a fast OLB

SteelerHawg:: Wex/Dale/et. al - what's your opine of one of the GA boys in the 2nd? Will one (or either) fall that far?

DaleLolley:: TE is definitely a position that needs to be upgraded. Tuman can't start against next season

HarryAWay:: It was packed last year so we'll see what happens. I'm waiting to find out if I have confirmed tickets or if I have to go midnight the night before.

steelmann58:: I think they will make sure there plenty of weapons foe been

SteelPatrick:: sigh..ya'll talk too much

jimwexell:: If Browner can run at the combine, no way he falls to 30. If he can't run, no way you'd want him at 30. As for Alex Smith, I don't want him in the first.

steelblitzkrieg:: BlitzD who did you want in round one last year?

BlitzburghD:: DeAngelo Hall

SteelChowder:: I'm with you CSyry - - I like ARE as a three and some height in there with Ward - - which goes back to Williamson and White

HarryAWay:: Last I had read Browner is running just under 4.5 in preparation for the Combine.

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heinzfield:: Which RB"S does everyone like that may be a possibility

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CSyry:: I wouldn't have a problem with that, chowder

SteelCitySports:: EVERYONE--- LET JIM AND DALE CATCH UP 

GFYAC:: If that is true then browner will be a top 15 pick

steelmann58:: there does not seem to be a replacement for Kimo in fa or the draft

HarryAWay:: Is Alex Smith a fallback option at tight end if Miller doesn't fall or the price isn't right to move up and get him?

ChipTheSteelerFan:: WEx, I read today that Browner is hoping he can run a 4.5. That is a slow "hope for" time

steelblitzkrieg:: That's what I thought, same as me...Great minds think alike (CB 04) (TE 05).

fury1:: I LIKE KAY-JAY HARRIS

BlitzburghD:: Bingo

oregonmooch:: do the steelers have any interest in j.porter?

GFYAC:: at 6'4 he can run 4.5 and be terrific

BlitzburghD:: I wanted Ben Watson in the second

CSyry:: he's good, but injury prone and 25

DaleLolley:: Porter will be too expensive.

ibleedBLACKandGOLD81:: I would think if we are not going to pay burress we're not going to pay porter

BlitzburghD:: TE has moved up in priority

CSyry:: fred smoot

Tyranid:: Oh.. do you think there will be that much of a drop off with randle el starting? Our opponents were harder and we had more road games (or at least harder road games) in the latter half of the season..

ibleedBLACKandGOLD81:: fred smoot def

GFYAC:: Too much Money for Smoot

Tyranid:: smoot nixed a 8 figure deal right?

DaleLolley:: Chevy Troutman at TE

34D:: I thought Cobb looked good in camp last year, but I read he wasn't a speed guy. does anyone know his 40's time? Can't he replace Burress

steelmann58:: i asked this on the messageborad but if the steelers do go hard after 1 Fa who do you think it is

BlitzburghD:: Love Miller, not sold on Smith, but have always liked the big guy from Green Bay'

HarryAWay:: Wine taste on a beer budget guys. You can add three free agents for the price of Porter or Smoot.

ibleedBLACKandGOLD81:: TJ Houshmanzadeh is going to be a potential free agent....he'd be a great two but he might want to be a number one guy somewhere

ChipTheSteelerFan:: cobb will replace ARE in the slot

GFYAC:: I think they will be ok with ARE as the starter...as long as they get someone that can get upfield and outside when they go 3-wide

fury1:: TOO MUCH FOR ANYONE, BUT WHAT THE HECK

DaleLolley:: Cobb isn't super fast, but he's quick in abd out of cuts

jimwexell:: Tryanid, I can't believe Barnes will fall to 30. He's a stud. But the Steelers did meet with Adam Terry the first day of the senior bowl. It appears they have interest in a tackle, and it makes sense. As for Williamson, I loved his attitude at the skills showcase. That kid will be top 15 after he scorches the combine track.

CSyry:: blitz, what about becht if they can't get franks

steelblitzkrieg:: I posted earlier...Kranchik stays and has a Reimersma like career, Tuman stays he is a decent blocker/reciever, and we draft TE...Cut all other 

TE's.

heinzfield:: Chevy Troutman will(would)be a helluva TE. IS THERE LEGIT INTEREST????

SteelChowder:: if Troutman doesn't have a B-Ball future, he should consider it

HarryAWay:: Be back in a couple minutes. I'm at work between things.

GFYAC:: I can't believe that the STeelers will take an OT in round 1

steelmann58:: damm bad news I was hoping Williamson would be there

DaleLolley:: I've been on the Troutman TE bandwagon for three years. I mentioned it to Colbert a couple of years ago and he nodded in agreement

steelmann58:: Jim what about Britt

BlitzburghD:: I think Becht is an upgrade, but a notch below Franks

CSyry:: wex, this may be a tough question to answer, who are your top three possibilities at number 30 as of right now

ChipTheSteelerFan:: wow, I finally got caught up

GFYAC:: they can't spend their money on a TE

heinzfield:: Becht is a decent option Steelman...

Tyranid:: he might be cheap.. although he wants catches.. we would have to convince him we'd throw to him

steelblitzkrieg:: Troutman? A fish in the used to be three rivers?

SteelChowder:: the fish that saved Pittsburgh!

GFYAC:: only if they can release Riemersma and bring the TE at less the difference then it makes no sense to bring in Becht

DaleLolley:: If the TE gets open, he'll get the ball

DaleLolley:: Riemersma is gone

BlitzburghD:: Tight ends are cheap.

BlitzburghD:: Its a cheap upgrade

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GFYAC:: not a big enough upgrade

BlitzburghD:: And Big Ben will throw to a good TE... he found he bums we have now

GFYAC:: if they are going to upgrade the TE position the go big...draft a kind in round 1...if not we are fine with Tuman

SteelChowder:: agree

ibleedBLACKandGOLD81:: we should take david baas the offensive guard/center that way he can back up either guard or hartings because we won't have 

keydrick vincent next year

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Tyranid:: isn't that okobi's job?

DaleLolley:: As I said before. Let the QB make the receivers and TEs better. Anybody think Favre's receivers over the years have been great? Nope. He makes 

them better.

jimwexell:: Bubba Freakin Franks! --- I don't buy the Rooney filling the seats theory. He wants to win. His grandpa won. His dad won. He'll want to win badly. -- Chowder's bad news. Please, forget about him. I like him as a player, but it won't happen here. You know how they feel. --- Roby looks like a third-rounder, he and Brandon Jones of Okla. -- Steelers will throw to the TE if he gets open. Bruener had his most catches as a rook, then Kordell came, then Bruener slowed down, now they have very slow TEs. The beauty of a first-round TE is you get the blocking and the threat in one package. Right now, they need four to cover all bases. -- The Franchise tag on Plax would be 7.7 M.
ibleedBLACKandGOLD81:: he can play either guard position as well

FromPittsburghWithLove:: Aside from Miller, who's the better blocking tight end, Smith or Everett?

BlitzburghD:: Breathe, Wex, breathe

ChipTheSteelerFan:: I think this is a big question that will eventually be answered: Will Chad Scott take a paycut and will he be willing to play FS. I think he would be a big upgrade over Hope.

FromPittsburghWithLove:: I'd rather see Ike play FS than chad

ChipTheSteelerFan:: Ike is too dumb

BlitzburghD:: Scott can't carry Hope's jock

steelblitzkrieg:: Smith is more of a receiving TE, don't know enough about Everett?

steelmann58:: I like miller someone to help out ben

BlitzburghD:: Ike is dumb

ChipTheSteelerFan:: come on blitz. Hope is not the ballhawk we need

BlitzburghD:: You're 1-fer-2 Chip

DaleLolley:: I like Everett. There's a guy nobody's talking about

ibleedBLACKandGOLD81:: Ike isn't a good enough tackler to play FS...we need a ball hawk

ChipTheSteelerFan:: 500 isn't bad

FromPittsburghWithLove:: Ya i like Everett too, although he's a little bit more of an athlete than a football player

BlitzburghD:: First year starting... give the kid a break

ChipTheSteelerFan:: I would make the playoffs in the NFC

Tyranid:: Are the steelers considering brodney poole or shazor as an upgrade to hope? Are we at risk of losing any of our RFAs?

SteelerHawg:: according to meatloaf, you should aim for .6666667

ibleedBLACKandGOLD81:: I'd like to see us drop chad scott and pick up ty law to play FS

heinzfield:: Chris Hope will be much better in his second year of starting...I thought h was decent this year...Not an easy position to master in the 3-4

fury1:: HOW ABOUT TE JOEL DREESSEN FROM COLORADO STATE

BlitzburghD:: .500 is great if you're Cleveland

CSyry:: i'm surprised nobody's brought this up, but wex/dale, do you feel bettis will be back next year

Tyranid:: Everett's been hurt right?

BlitzburghD:: 

GFYAC:: why are we trying to upgrade Hope??? he has started 1 year and did pretty well thank you very much

fury1:: CAN CATCH AND BLOCK - CAN PLAY RIGHT NOW

DaleLolley:: I think Bettis will be back for one more shot. Especially since the SB is in Detroit

ChipTheSteelerFan:: because hope is an UFA after this year

FromPittsburghWithLove:: The only image I have of Hope right now is being stiffed armed by C Mart

steelmann58:: I think it will be miller 

steelblitzkrieg:: Hope was a SS, first year starting and now a FS, give him some more time.

CSyry:: dammit, no tight end in round 1. either receiver or corner

steelmann58:: I think we give hope another full year

ChipTheSteelerFan:: That is the problem. He is a SS trying to play FS

DaleLolley:: CMart is a hall of famer. There's no dishonor there.

GFYAC:: we should consider extending Hope...not replacing him...we can likely get him reasonably now

BlitzburghD:: I guess you missed the Miami game

ChipTheSteelerFan:: who?

FromPittsburghWithLove:: Cmart IS a hall of famer, but for a tackling guru, he should have made that tackle

Wookie:: I agree with Dale on Bettis.

CSyry:: hope was solid, but not spectacular

Tyranid:: Hope makes a lot of boneheaded reads in space.. he seems to completely get lost on the big plays

BlitzburghD:: Why do you like Everett, Dale

ChipTheSteelerFan:: I agree hope was solid not spectacular

CSyry:: I'd give him another year

ChipTheSteelerFan:: me too

steelmann58:: JIM I was wondering what Reporter was that in today Blog

ibleedBLACKandGOLD81:: I'd be cool with hope having another year

ChipTheSteelerFan:: but Chad should be ready to take over

CSyry:: they had the no. 1 defense, he didn't do too much wrong

SteelPatrick:: one question at a time ppl

steelblitzkrieg:: Steelman....DiPoala(SP?)

jimwexell:: With Colbert, the Steelers are always a threat to trade up, down, around -- I like Colbert's drafts, particularly the first days. -- Ernest Shazor looked silly trying to tackle Vince Young. I thought Shazor played poorly the only time I watched him. No offense. -- Hawg, I don't know if either Georgia boy will last to the second. I think Reggie Brown is a consideration at 30 -- I don't want to replace Kimo. I think he's in great shape, has a great attitude and is productive. They also have fine backups. I don't see them drafting a Dlineman early. -- mooch, the Steelers have interest in Porter. They've always liked him. Obviously, it's a matter of money. Fury, I like kay Jay Harris, too. A lot. but he did fumble twice against FSU and is 25 or 26. But I do like him. I think he'll be a third- or fourth-=round steal. Heck,l I'

jimwexell:: I'm using all my weekend stuff. Promise me you guys won';t read my weekend blog of Sr bowl analysis because I'm using it all here.

steelmann58:: well if Roby there in round 3 and we have not taken a wr 

ChipTheSteelerFan:: Wex, you and I are about the only ones on Kimo's side

ibleedBLACKandGOLD81:: haha I won't

CSyry:: next year, they should worry about getting kimo's replacement

GFYAC:: you write a blog Jim??? :-)

ibleedBLACKandGOLD81:: if chris henry is available second round we should maybe get him

ibleedBLACKandGOLD81:: but there's another bad attitude wr

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CSyry:: he's got character issues, but has immense talent

steelblitzkrieg:: Kimo is old, but after last years big numbers did they focus on him, which allowed smith to take over his stats?

Tyranid:: Are there any reports regarding Hampton.. has he "fully" recovered?

steelmann58:: if they don't draft Channing forget henry

FromPittsburghWithLove:: Any chance Chris Hoke could make a bid for Kimo's job?

CSyry:: will oliver ross return as either a starter or backup to starks

SteelPatrick:: I wonder why Cowher picked Kendall Gammon as his Pro Bowl Need player??

BlitzburghD:: Whoa... add me to the KvO bandwagon

ChipTheSteelerFan:: because he is an idiot

ChipTheSteelerFan:: your added

SteelPatrick:: Does Cowher hate Scheck that much??

DaleLolley:: Forget about Henry. I like Everett's athletic ability. Played for a big-time program.

ChipTheSteelerFan:: Cowher should have taken Kreider

steelblitzkrieg:: Steelpatrick...No natural long snappers...ex steeler.

ibleedBLACKandGOLD81:: I think there's a good chance this is kimo's last year...we can't depend on a rookie to take over we need to get his replacement now if he's going to be a rookie this year

steelmann58:: I like Kimo allot but think we need to try an find another smith

SteelPatrick:: Cowher should taken KImo

BlitzburghD:: Thank you

SteelPatrick:: Then the Steelers would have 3 Pro Bowl DL.

ChipTheSteelerFan:: kirsche and Hoke can replace Kimo in 2006

steelmann58:: The Most Important thing is to be solid in Day 2 of the draft\

PGPROUD:: Good point Dale, but the Steelers have 0 Miami players. There not all bad attitudes. What gives?

CSyry:: that'd be nice for a change

steelblitzkrieg:: Cowher never takes his own, it would look bad, he takes who is most deserving or most needed.

steelmann58:: chip they feel hoke is a NT not a de

DaleLolley:: They need to start drafting Miami players. One every year.

BlitzburghD:: I haven't seen enough of him to buy in, Dale

SteelPatrick:: Isn't Schneck a natural LS Blitzkrieg?? or is Gammon a UFA and Cowher is interested?

HarryAWay:: Shazor's going to look like a fool chasing a guy with 4.3 speed. How many guys look like a fool chasing Michael Vick?

ChipTheSteelerFan:: people thought Kimo was a NT not a 3-4 DE

ibleedBLACKandGOLD81:: I think hoke would make a pretty good 3-4 de

BlitzburghD:: But he is intriguing

Tyranid:: Are any of the practice squad/nfl Europe guys legitimate roster contenders in 05? Roper looked good in practices I think at least early on last year.. and then he dropped off the map..

FromPittsburghWithLove:: I think Luis Castillo outta NW would be a perfect fit here. Big and strong and really smart

CSyry:: I'm with dale on everett. no Winslow, but he's more than good enough. remember, brock berlin was his qb

steelblitzkrieg:: Yes, but is he as good, and he is a steeler, who would earn a bonus that hurt's are cap.

GFYAC:: any opinions on J.R. Russell

steelmann58:: count me in for ROPER

ChipTheSteelerFan:: take him in the 2nd round

steelmann58:: and also

ChipTheSteelerFan:: he is the next TO

steelmann58:: Castilo

CSyry:: what's his height, gfyac

SteelerHawg:: 6'3", IIRC

ibleedBLACKandGOLD81:: jim/dale - I was late...did someone say that the steelers won't even be making a qualified offer to kendrell bell?

CSyry:: get him

fury1:: ROPER SHOULD HAVE MADE THE TEAM LAST YEAR, NOT ALONZO

GFYAC:: 6'3 205 4.5/40

steelmann58:: Collins has good hands

ChipTheSteelerFan:: I agree fury

steelmann58:: agree Fury

SteelChowder:: year three is usually when they drop the stiffs - - Jackson's probably gone this year

jimwexell:: I don't really care for Britt. He's kind of slow. I like the Bama guard, Evan Mathis, a lot. -- I believe they'll take a G-T over a C-G. My favorite G-T is 

Logan Mankins. -- No way I see them taking a Safety in the first two rounds. I thought Brodny Pool got killed by USC. I don't understand the love everyone has for him. Must have had a good season I presume.

ChipTheSteelerFan:: if Russell isn't the next TO, he will be a Chad Johnson mold at least

CSyry:: I trade down and get Russell if they want him bad enough

Tyranid:: Speaking of Miami players, how far do you think Parrish will drop? He's freakishly small / fast..

steelblitzkrieg:: Jim/Dale do you really think they will go with James Harrison inside, or did I misinterpret?

CSyry:: the guy I really want from Miami isn't draft-eligible: Hester

GFYAC:: will Russell be there in Round 2 for us?

Tyranid:: Jim: They had a rookie corner covering SC's fastest receiver.. there wasn't much pool was going to be able to do, play in play out

ChipTheSteelerFan:: he should be gf

steelmann58:: JIM I forgot about Mankins I also like Kazur from Toledo

PGPROUD:: Jim I like that t-g thing. The eagles have been doing it for the past couple of years.

FromPittsburghWithLove:: Anthony Alabi shouldn't be overlooked

steelmann58:: depends if there a run at wr Russell never last

steelblitzkrieg:: Alabi? Sounds ripe for the Ravens?

CSyry:: do you guys think the 49ers trade the no. 1 pick. if not, who do they take

jimwexell:: I like Joel Dresseen. I also like the Boston College TE. His name escapes me. A fifth-rounder. I don't like the Cal TE. I can't remember any others. -- My guess is Bettis will be back next season. Just a guess though. He's kept it a secret. Even KDKA, which sent a man to the Pro Bowl, couldn't get an answer out of him tonight.

steelmann58:: hey From great call on alabi

SteelChowder:: six WR went in the first round last year - - maybe that means less of a run this year

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FromPittsburghWithLove:: Anybody think Wayne Hunter would starting on this team instead of Alonzo?

ChipTheSteelerFan:: the 49ers should trade down, then draft Charlie Frye or Jason Campbell later

steelmann58:: anyone would have been better than Jackson

Tyranid:: Will Alonzo be on the roster next year.. or will they finally cut him?

ChipTheSteelerFan:: I do with love

FromPittsburghWithLove:: no Julian Battle would have been worse

steelmann58:: anyone concern we might lose reed

HarryAWay:: I don't see any team willing to trade up for any player or pay the first overall pick. The 49ers are stuck picking in a year with no clear cut 1st overall.

fury1:: JIM THAT IS DAVE KASHETTA

CSyry:: no. he'll be back

PGPROUD:: Doesn't Russell have that bad attitude. What he did to the coach during the bowl game was wrong!

ChipTheSteelerFan:: it was wrong

ChipTheSteelerFan:: but let Hines mentor him

steelmann58:: people make mistakes that what interviews are for

SteelerHawg:: LJ Smith or Jason Witten would def. have been better than Alonzo

FromPittsburghWithLove:: speaking of Tight Ends, Anthony Curtis from Portland State might be the best kept secret in all of college football

ChipTheSteelerFan:: Wex and Dale, what do you think of the WR coming out of a community college. I think his name is Larry Brackins. Sounds like a good 

project

BlitzburghD:: I wanted Witten so so bad

steelblitzkrieg:: No more Aloslow Sacksnone please.

Tyranid:: in hindsight.. Randall Gay would have been better than Alonzo..

PGPROUD:: witten would look awful nice.

BlitzburghD:: Tell 'em, Joe

CSyry:: I can't believe hank-freakin-poteat has a super bowl ring

ChipTheSteelerFan:: and cowher doesn't

SteelerHawg:: or josh-freakin'miller

ChipTheSteelerFan:: and cowher doesn't

PGPROUD:: yea, for 3 weeks of work!

CSyry:: that playoff game against the browns was the worst performance by a corner of all-time

ChipTheSteelerFan:: jim miller

steelmann58:: another nice pick From

ibleedBLACKandGOLD81:: will somebody please tell me if the steelers are going to make kendrell bell a qualifying offer?

CSyry:: he's unrestricted, I believe

GFYAC:: UFA

SteelerHawg:: what is a qualifying offer?

GFYAC:: Bell

ChipTheSteelerFan:: they will. they will offer to hold the door so it doesn't hit him in the ass as he is walking out

Tyranid:: there was some new England article praising miller's contributions in the playoffs as a vast upgrade from last year, the mere discussion made me sick

steelmann58:: any thought on the Rb from Canada forget his college 

GFYAC:: RFA's can get qualifying offers I believe

ibleedBLACKandGOLD81:: he's restricted isn't he?

CSyry:: qualifying offers go to restricted free agents to maintain their rights

SteelerHawg:: nah, he's a UFA

BlitzburghD:: Such hatred... hahaha

jimwexell:: Forget about Chris Henry. Another bad actor. Steelers would never take a guy who gave a crowd the finger, then was suspended, came back, was suspended again. -- Hampton's fine. I think his loss hurt the production of the ends. Not to dilute what Hoke did because the run defense actually improved. -- Hoke taking Kimo's job? He may be up to it but I doubt Cowher would pull that trigger. -- Where's Dirt? Tell him I just got a Neko Case bootleg. It just came on my CD shuffle. -- WHo is Everett?

DaleLolley:: Sorry guys, had to take a phone call

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PGPROUD:: do you remember their punter last year-just terrible

SteelerHawg:: I think they should offer hime a 1 yr, maybe for $1 mil

steelmann58:: chip if the door hits him will he go on ir for 2005

GFYAC:: players who finish their 3rd year and their contract is up then the Team has an option of offer them Qualifying offers

DaleLolley:: Everett is the Miami TE

SteelCitySports:: Explanation of Free Agency --- 

SteelCitySports:: http://steelers.scout.com/2/349699.html

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ChipTheSteelerFan:: hahahaha (steelmann) he would then want an injury settlement

SteelerHawg:: I always call them 'tenders'

steelmann58:: I wonder if reed will get an outside offer from maybe the jets

GFYAC:: Tenders right

steelmann58:: lol chip

GFYAC:: Reed should stay

Tyranid:: will they give him a minimum tender? (reed that is)

CSyry:: I think reed's comfortable here. I can't see him leaving unless he gets a ridiculous offer

DaleLolley:: They'll at least go mid-level on Reed

GFYAC:: if they do the Steelers will get no compensation for him right

ChipTheSteelerFan:: the steelers don't normally pay their kickers, but I think it is time they do

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steelmann58:: Jim who was the beat writer that you talked about in the blog

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SteelerHawg:: hopefully they get something long-term worked out afterwards ... $1.3 (or whatever it is this year) is steep for a K, no?

steelblitzkrieg:: CS a kicker is comfortable in Heinz, that's an oxymoron.

GFYAC:: Gardoki makes about that much

CSyry:: no doubt about that

SteelerHawg:: if they mid-level him , it'd take a first

SteelerHawg:: to sign him away

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Tyranid:: he hit a lot of big kicks down the road.. I just remember the Jacksonville game..

steelmann58:: yes if reed leaves we get nothing

jimwexell:: The Europe guys aren't really contenders. That's a meat-grinder. Roper definitely has a shot. You also have to like Walter Young, at least for a look. -- Oh, everett the Miami TE. I'm not buying. -- J.R. Russell is a stud with a horrible attitude. Another me-me-me receiver. Man, these guys make me long for the days for Plax. 

SteelerHawg:: Gardocki does, & that hurts, IMO. He's never had a punt blocked though

GFYAC:: if it is the low Tender

BlitzburghD:: The ass-beat writer was DiPaola

ChipTheSteelerFan:: dale and wex, do you think the Steelers would take a chance on a project like Larry Brackins? HE played at a community college

BlitzburghD:: Scrub

DaleLolley:: The players who are in their plans are the ones they didn't send to Europe.

steelmann58:: walter young a tall wr but is he a possion guy also

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HarryAWay:: I'd have to think the Steelers offer Reed a long term deal prior to free agency

CSyry:: steelers/patriots opener on mnf. could it be?

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ChipTheSteelerFan:: I hope not. I hate MNF

steelmann58:: cool that means they are given Burr one last start

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SteelPatrick:: I dunno what is worse now: Patriots Super Bowl Champs or the WWE.

CSyry:: the former

steelmann58:: and Iiorio the long snapper

SteelerHawg:: someone said the SB champ usually opens at home ... the Steeler/NE game is in Pitt again next year

DaleLolley:: You couldn't possibly hate MNF like the writers do.

GFYAC:: Steeler extension...Ward, Hampton, Reed, Foote, ARE, Hope..in that order

Tyranid:: so is it unusual to not hear any chatter about extensions yet? or is that usually done after the draft?

SteelPatrick:: hmmm...3 1st rounders.

BlitzburghD:: Same here, Chip

steelmann58:: what about Duff from ND

DaleLolley:: I like Duff from ND. Nice player

GFYAC:: Vontez??

steelmann58:: yes is he a cb'

SteelPatrick:: one is ours, one from Plax and one if some team is crazy enough to sign Jeff Reed when he is signed mid-level

CSyry:: ward, hampton, and reed. hopefully burress stays, only because porter will be expensive and there is nobody better out there

ChipTheSteelerFan:: I hate the announcers. I hate the sideline reporter and I hate having to stay up past 12:30 am to watch the Steelers, then turn around and get up at 4:30 am

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SteelerHawg:: move to the MST zone, games over by 10:30!!!

DaleLolley:: I mean I like Tuck from ND. Not Duff.

SteelPatrick:: Duff Beer

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BlitzburghD:: MNF kicked my ass when I had the Tuesday slot

steelmann58:: did anyone notice during allot of games it seemed the announcers almost rooting against us

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ChipTheSteelerFan:: Then it is worse when you stay up and the Steelers lose

CSyry:: the two jets games come to mind

CSyry:: phil simms was pulling for ny hard

BlitzburghD:: brb

SteelerHawg:: phill simms can pull . .... ah nevermind

Tyranid:: It was nice to see Marino root for the steelers

steelmann58:: tuck a pass rushing de

CSyry:: I could have phrased that better

DaleLolley:: Tuck an OLB

DaleLolley:: and situational guy as a rookie

Orius:: Any word on how Myron Cope is doing and if he'll be back next year?

ChipTheSteelerFan:: tuck would be a nice pickup

FromPittsburghWithLove:: Tuck would have to be in the 1st round

FromPittsburghWithLove:: no thanks

steelmann58:: could use him as a pass rusher right away

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FromPittsburghWithLove:: this sounds similar to something...

SteelPatrick:: 9 Steelers in the Pro Bowl...that is pretty good isn't it??

DaleLolley:: Tuck will be a third rounder.

SteelPatrick:: I wonder if there will be a 10th....

SteelerHawg:: until it's time to add in the pro bowl bonuses to the salary cap

ibleedBLACKandGOLD81:: Justin Tuck?

DaleLolley:: Too small to play end. Not enough teams playing the 3-4 yet.

steelmann58:: them if he there it might be worth it

ChipTheSteelerFan:: Only if you put a hit out on some players Patrick

jimwexell:: I think James Harrison is strictly an OLB, but others disagree so I'm keeping my opinion open. -- Roscoe Parrish is lightning. Won't get out of the second round. -- Steelman, I watched Kazur closely in his bowl game and didn';t like him. No offense :-) -- Boy,. the 49ers should trade the No. 1 pick. I think the most exciting athlete in the draft is Braylon Edwards, and you hate to take a WR No. 1. I think the 49ers have to take Rodgers. I like him better after watching his personality in the skills competition. -- I think the Browns will draft Charlie Frye. They won't pass on another Ohio kid. -- I gotta believe Alonzo's gone. --- Hello in left field. I don't know Wayne Hunter. -- Yes, kashetta. I like him as a fifth=-round H-back type. -- Don't know any Portland State or Community College players. -- Or Aloslow Sacsnone -- Kendrell Bell is an unrestricted FA. No tenders are made.

HarryAWay:: It's nice to see them respected but not the bonus counting against the salary cap.

steelblitzkrieg:: 9 PB players is allot of cap space eaten up next year.

DaleLolley:: 6-4 255

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HarryAWay:: I thought Kazur played well during the Shrine Bowl week from all reports

FromPittsburghWithLove:: You really think Tuck will be 3rd round? I'm hearing late first early2nd...

steelmann58:: Jim thanks for the reply no offense taken

Tyranid:: have you guys seen Manuel White from UCLA? What round do you think he will go.. and is he strictly a FB in the NFL?

ChipTheSteelerFan:: Wex, you almost got it right. The Browns will take an Ohio player, but it won't be Frye. It will be Maurice Clarrett.

ChipTheSteelerFan:: LOL

FromPittsburghWithLove:: Maurice tinks Cowher would understand him

SteelerHawg:: not w/Savage there

fury1:: WHAT ABOUT FRED GIBSON- WR - GEORGIA IN THE 2ND OR 3RD

FromPittsburghWithLove:: thinks*

SteelCitySports:: What about Khalif Barnes ?

steelblitzkrieg:: Sorry Jim Alonzo Jackson = Alonslow Sacksnone

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steelmann58:: collins the miss wr sent to Europe should be watched

SteelerHawg:: Savage/Crennle should turn that thing around .... not tomorrow, but someday .... I miss Butch already...

DaleLolley:: Barnes won't be available.

SteelPatrick:: Whichever NFL Europe team has the most Steelers is gonna be my favorite team.

FromPittsburghWithLove:: David Baas would be a nice pick

FromPittsburghWithLove:: man he's nasty

SteelPatrick:: There is too many German teams in NFLEurope

ibleedBLACKandGOLD81:: I think so too but we won't be able to get him 2nd round

Tyranid:: baas isn't all that fast though.. if you need him to pull or block down field

CSyry:: who will be targets for restructuring their cap number

ChipTheSteelerFan:: Patrick, almost all the teams are in Germany now

ibleedBLACKandGOLD81:: he could replace hartings next year at center then he won't be pulling much

steelmann58:: miller or Williamson or brown are my 1st round targets

DaleLolley:: I gotta run guys. It's been fun. We'll have to do it again.

ChipTheSteelerFan:: cya dale

Tyranid:: cya dale, thanks

SteelCitySports:: Thanks Dale

ibleedBLACKandGOLD81:: bye dale

SteelPatrick:: Why Germany?? does Germany like football?

steelblitzkrieg:: Later Dale.

ChipTheSteelerFan:: Wex, I just PM'd you some info on Brackins

CSyry:: later dale

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ChipTheSteelerFan:: I guess it is more popular there

Orius:: How about either of the WVU boys.........KayJay Harris or the WR?

SteelPatrick:: might as well be the GFL\

SteelerHawg:: later dale

ChipTheSteelerFan:: I agree Patrick

ibleedBLACKandGOLD81:: anyone think colclough is going to be starting next year?

ChipTheSteelerFan:: yes

FromPittsburghWithLove:: tep

FromPittsburghWithLove:: yep*

steelmann58:: thanks dale

steelmann58:: yep

SteelCitySports:: yes

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SteelPatrick:: I guess the other countries dont like USA and NFL enough to have a NFLE team.

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SteelPatrick:: Why is Taglibue so obsessed with getting a NFL team in LA??

ChipTheSteelerFan:: the 2nd biggest market.

fury1:: MONEY

ChipTheSteelerFan:: money

SteelPatrick:: and should we even have a NFL teams in Canada and Mexico?

fsafety:: Will Hampton be ready for the start of next season ?

jimwexell:: steelman, Jerry DiPaola. --- Another potential RFA loss is Keisel -- seventh-round compensation. Then again, they'll have the opportunity to match. -- Not sure about Myron Cope. I would assume he'll be back. I do know neither side wants to fire him and have a Bob Prince PR fiasco on their hands. -- I do not remember Manuel White. -- I liked what I saw of Fred Gibson, but I don't know enough about him. The Ga. player I liked was the kid who pushed Antaj Hawthorn around in the bowl game -- Max Jean-Gilles, but he didn't come out like he was supposed to. He reminded me of James Harrison,l a smaller guy who pushed people every which way. -- I love Khalif Barnes. Top-notch LT, will be in the league for 12 years.

ChipTheSteelerFan:: they are testing the waters in Mexico

ibleedBLACKandGOLD81:: I don't know but it might be the los angeles colts in the next couple years if indy doesn't get a new stadium

SteelPatrick:: Canada and Mexico would mess up the divisions

ChipTheSteelerFan:: that is why they have preseason games there

ChipTheSteelerFan:: well one reason why

jimwexell:: Jeff Hartings is probably the 

Tyranid:: If we could get a guy like parrish in the 2nd round to stretch the field that would be quite amazing.. I'd love to see how New England would cover him 

SteelPatrick:: do the Fans in LA even want a team in LA??

steelblitzkrieg:: Dinner is here, I'll talk to you guy's later

jimwexell:: Hartings would probably be the guy to renegotiate.

SteelerHawg:: later sbk

Tyranid:: not really.. they hate traffic.. and are very bitter about the raiders leaving

SteelPatrick:: Didn't the Raiders and Rams in LA moved away cuz they werent making any money in LA?

steelmann58:: I agree Jim Hartings seems like a fair guy

SteelerHawg:: Wex - will he be asked to take a Bettis/Bruener cut (perhaps not to that extreme), or salary to bonus renociation?

ChipTheSteelerFan:: cya blitzkrieg

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ibleedBLACKandGOLD81:: there wasn't a big market there for the rams and I heard the raiders move there was always only temporary but that could be wrong

steelmann58:: I have to believe if Bettis stays they won't have to draft a rb

FromPittsburghWithLove:: you draft a RB regardless if Bettis stays

SteelPatrick:: L.A. Colts hhmmmm.. L.A. Vikings.....hmmmm.....Mexico City Steelers...LOL

steelmann58:: Jim could haynes be a fa loss

ChipTheSteelerFan:: Parrish is too small. 5'9 175

jimwexell:: Orius, I love Kay Jay Harris -- third-round, fourth-round steal; Chris Henry will play elsewhere because of his bad attitude and he will probably burn the Steelers some day. -- I think Colclough will start next year. I(

Tyranid:: Haynes is a RFA right?

ibleedBLACKandGOLD81:: I really really hope we don't give up haynes

jimwexell:: I'm the PFW mole.

fsafety:: to many good backs this year to pass on one of them 

FromPittsburghWithLove:: Harris would be a great pick in the third

SteelPatrick:: Any Bus types in the Draft??

steelmann58:: harris is kind old though at 26

FromPittsburghWithLove:: Brandon Jacobs

ChipTheSteelerFan:: Wait until the 4th for a RB

Tyranid:: Noah Herron?

FromPittsburghWithLove:: Herron isn't that big

Orius:: Thanks Jim!

SteelPatrick:: I don't want a skinny minny at HB, I want a Big Fat Fast dude who would make Ray Lewis cry.

ChipTheSteelerFan:: we missed out on Greg Jones

ChipTheSteelerFan:: last year

jimwexell:: I would assume they'd simply give hartings some kind of bonus and he'd extend. Kinda difficult to ask a Pro Bowler to take a pay cut.

SteelPatrick:: We should trade for Greg Jones

SteelCitySports:: Patrick the only person like that is Ray-Rays MOMMA 

SteelPatrick:: oooo

Tyranid:: Ray Lewis should be blocked by the FB or a OG.. its the safeties, etc.. that the big tailback would be bruising ..

SteelPatrick:: that is cold

steelmann58:: I have to believe what Jim was saying they have a player targeted for day 2

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jimwexell:: Haynes would be a restricted free agent. They'd have the chance to match any offer or take the fifth-rounder. The only guy who will get a mid-level tender is probably Reed.

SteelPatrick:: (insert Yo Momma Is SO Fat joke here)

SteelerHawg:: thx Wex - I was thinking the same. That cut's gonna hurt when it happens, tho...

SteelPatrick:: IS Matt Jones THE guy the Steelers want?

ChipTheSteelerFan:: I hope not

CSyry:: could aaron smith take another pay cut

FromPittsburghWithLove:: I'd rather get Marshall

ChipTheSteelerFan:: smith doesn't take pay cuts, they turn his base into bonus and push the hit back

jimwexell:: Patrick, keep your eye on Nehemiah Broughton of the Citadel. He played FB in the Senior Bowl but is a 250-pound tailback. Fifth round.

SteelerHawg:: only Bettis & Bruener have taken actual 'cuts', IIRC

SteelPatrick:: Did Belicheck really say that Aaron Smith is THE best DE in NFL and that Farrior is greater than Ray Ray??

FromPittsburghWithLove:: Jonathan Jackson outta Oklahoma will be a steal, kid is an athlete

SteelPatrick:: Thanks Jim. Sounds like a mouthful

Tyranid:: Belicheck always heaps the praise onto the opponents he faces.. its like salt in the wound..

SteelPatrick:: Citadel. Sounds like a bank

ChipTheSteelerFan:: or a fort

jimwexell:: Matt Jones was interviewed by the Steelers at the Senior Bowl,l second day,l but I wasn't real impressed with his performance. Mid rounder.

steelmann58:: Jim that the guy you have liked before

SteelPatrick:: What about Ohio State CB Dustin Fox??

CSyry:: slow

CSyry:: holds a lot

SteelPatrick:: oh

jimwexell:: Yes, that was the guy I* liked. And yes I like Dustin Fox. Physical. In the game I watched he looked fast enough.

Tyranid:: None of the backs seemed to get anywhere in the senior bowl except for herron on that long pass at the end and sproles here and there.. is it just that the offensive lines weren't all that cohesive, or does the talent really drop off at tailback after the 3 juggernauts in the 1st round?

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FromPittsburghWithLove:: Ellis Hobbs at Iowa St. is good, reminds me of Deshea

jimwexell:: I really like Sproles, but the Steelers already have their change-up speed ball.

ChipTheSteelerFan:: Hi CA how are you

SteelPatrick:: How about Ohio State K Ted...err Mike Nugent

ChipTheSteelerFan:: maybe if they lose Reed

ColbertsAssistant:: Good evening Chip - and everyone

steelmann58:: we need a cb who can cover

ibleedBLACKandGOLD81:: Jim - so who's your pick on who the steelers take first round?

SteelerHawg:: Nugent is better than Kaeding, will he go early 3rd? If so, we should say no

ibleedBLACKandGOLD81:: we need a shutdown corner for sure

ChipTheSteelerFan:: I see Nugent going that early

jimwexell:: Well, we're talking kickers. I guess it's a good time to roll on outta here. Thanks for keeping it lively fellas. And my prediction at this point is Heath Miller. It'll probably change a couple of times though.

HarryAWay:: What about the receiver turned corner from Illinois or the underclassman corner from Vandy in the 3rd to 4th range?

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DaleLolley:: What's up Joe, I started early
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\r\nGFYAC:: Foote was a 4th rounder
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\r\nsteelmann58:: hey Joe
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ChipTheSteelerFan:: hi Joe
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\r\nDaleLolley:: Fourth round, fifth round. It's all the same
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\r\nGFYAC:: should've been a 5th rounder...we reached
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\r\nfury1:: WILL WE DRAFT A RB, IF SO EARLY OR LATER IN THE DRAFT ?
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\r\nsteelmann58:: I think Matt Roth would be ok too 
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: Day 2 on a RB
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\r\nSteelCitySports:: Hello !
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\r\nheinzfield:: The thing to remember about tweener DE's and 3-4 OLB's is that they are in higher demand with the 3-4 phasing back in\r\nThat's why I see us finding the next solid OLB/DE
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: Supply is way bigger than demand on RBs
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\r\nsteelmann58:: guys you all know I think Roper will make next year team
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\r\nDaleLolley:: There are a ton of tweeners in this draft
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\r\nDaleLolley:: I like Roper
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: I think Swanncut is the next Alonzo
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\r\nDaleLolley:: There's only one AJax, thank god
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\r\nsteelmann58:: as long as they don't reach for another Jackson
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\r\nGFYAC:: yeah lots of Tweeners...and we don't need a starter or #1 back-up...just a developmental guy better than Alonzo...that can't be hard to find even in round 4 or 5
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\r\nfury1:: DON'T CURSE THE GUY LIKE THAT
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\r\nheinzfield:: I like Matt Roth also.
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: I have been praising Roth since preseason
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\r\nsteelmann58:: I think day 2 draft will be very important to the Steelers 
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\r\nDaleLolley:: They wouldn't know what to do with Roth. He'd be another Vrabel.
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\r\nGFYAC:: They have to do better on day 2
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\r\nsteelmann58:: I think Roper will be on the 53 next year
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\r\nfury1:: NEED TO DO BETTER THAN LAST YEAR
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: I believe that Dale since I am not sure if he would play OLB or beef up to play DE
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\r\nheinzfield:: Chip he is a solid player...I coach at the NAIA college level and we play the 3-4...form what I have seen he can play in our scheme(Steelers)
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\r\nGFYAC:: we only have 1 guy left from last year...and he was only on the practice squad
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\r\nsteelmann58:: please last year they looked lost
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\r\nsteelmann58:: Taylor
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: Heinz, where do you coach?
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: hi #1
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\r\nNumberOneSteelerFan:: hi chip
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\r\nsteelmann58:: dale seen they added Burr again man he hugh to bad grimm can't help him out
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\r\nheinzfield:: I coach in North Dakota. Jamestown College...
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\r\nDaleLolley:: I liked Taylor's motor, but he didn't always seem to be going in the right direction. Always getting bitched at by Mitch
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: Oh
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\r\nGFYAC:: Steelers have to address their Back-up OT/G position...will they draft them or sign them from FA
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\r\nDaleLolley:: Burr's fodder. Couldn't cut it before and he didn't get any faster after that knee\r\ninjury
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\r\nsteelmann58:: lol maybe Taylor can get his act together
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\r\nDaleLolley:: Taylor has great size. He looks the part
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\r\nsteelmann58:: knowing the Steelers they will sign a vet tackle
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\r\nDaleLolley:: Very active hands on the pass rush, but doesn't always go anywhere
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\r\nGFYAC:: he was a playmaker in college too wasn't he..meaning Taylor
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: Dale, Shawn praises Jim Jones, what is your opinion of him. I think if he is as good as Shawn says he is, he would at least be dressing for a team on Sunday
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\r\nsteelmann58:: ok guys will The Steelers Look at Trading Maddox
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\r\nGFYAC:: are you kidding?
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: its possible
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: trade Tommy for a 3rd and sign a vet backup (Fiedler?) or just use Charlie
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\r\nGFYAC:: then we would have another hole to fill
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\r\nDaleLolley:: Jones dressing came down to numbers. I like Jones as a backup. Don't know that I want to count on him as a starter. But that's why they'll bring in a vet swing guy. Trading Maddox is possible, though not likely. Batch would come back for the minimum.
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\r\nDaleLolley:: Or close to it.
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\r\nheinzfield:: Maddox stays...You need 2 solid QB's at this level to be good. I am not saying Maddox is great, but he can win games for a short periods of time 3-4 game stretches
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: This is why the Pats are better. They traded Bledsoe for picks. They dumped Milloy to sign Harrison. 
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\r\nGFYAC:: right on
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\r\nDaleLolley:: But if he says he doesn't want to be here. They don't want guys who don't want to be a part of this.
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\r\nGFYAC:: OK...they got a #1 and more for Bledsoe
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GFYAC:: they are talking a #3 for Maddox...how does that help
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\r\nDaleLolley:: Be lucky to get a 5 for Maddox
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: exactly dale
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\r\nsteelmann58:: I agree get players who want to be here
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\r\nGFYAC:: also Maddox is not making a whole lot compared to other back-ups
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: a 5? I guess Washington won't be fishing again this year
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\r\nGFYAC:: Bledsoe was eating cap
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\r\nsteelmann58:: so what way is the bus leaning
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: but they still traded him
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: Brady was making nothing so Bledsoe's contract balanced out
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\r\nheinzfield:: If I am a betting man, Bettis retires
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\r\nDaleLolley:: Maddox will be 33. I don't think he's going anywhere. No news on extensions yet. Everybody's in Hawaii.
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\r\nsteelmann58:: dale bettis retires?
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\r\nDaleLolley:: I don't think so. Won't want to share the Hall of Fame stage with Emmitt.
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: how are you tonight blitz?
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\r\nDaleLolley:: Just kidding
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: Dale, that is funny since I used that as an excuse for Bettis not being a first ballot HOFer if he retires with Emmitt
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\r\nheinzfield:: OK guys, other tweener DE's you have liked
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\r\nGFYAC:: Dale..what is your opinion of Brandon Browner
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: I am talking Steeler football, so I am happy blitz
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\r\nBlitzburghD:: Amen
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: plus the wife can't give me a hard time since she and the kid are watching the OC
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\r\nsteelmann58:: matt roth
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\r\nsteelmann58:: but I also like a true dt like luis castillo
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\r\nheinzfield:: I agree on Roth, I hope I am right on him 
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\r\nBlitzburghD:: So who's this year's Ben, Chip... are you onto any one prospect yet?
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: no, not yet
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\r\nheinzfield:: Pollack will not be around, but I agree, he is good...
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\r\nsteelmann58:: guys what do you think if we draft Chris Canty in the 3rd
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\r\nGFYAC:: Notre Dame...yeah...Tuck could be a terrific Tweener
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\r\nDaleLolley:: Canty's had injury probs - no?
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: Ben was easy after watching him in college then listening to the experts fall in love with Rivers
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\r\njimwexell:: Hey Guys
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\r\nBlitzburghD:: Hey Wex
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\r\nsteelblitzkrieg:: Dammit Blitz
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\r\njimwexell:: Blitz, dale, Chip, blitzkrieg, heinz -- what's up fellas?
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\r\nGFYAC:: Where do you think Rian Wallace will fall
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\r\nGFYAC:: Could the Steelers Steel him in round 3
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\r\nheinzfield:: Just starting to sort through the off season...
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: just talking steeler football and being happy
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\r\njimwexell:: I haven't seen him play. I tried to avoid Temple this year.
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\r\nSteelerHawg:: i've been married 1.5 years now .... I think she's sick of me
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\r\nsteelmann58:: I think that why Canty will fall but worth a 3rd rounder
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\r\nsteelblitzkrieg:: Hawg married? Wow, congrats.
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\r\nDaleLolley:: I thought you just got married Hawg
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\r\nBlitzburghD:: Hey Joe, Dale... missed you cats on the way in the door
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\r\nGFYAC:: Wallace was a playmaker who can play both ILB-OLB
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: Apple just got married
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\r\nGFYAC:: OCngrats Apple
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\r\nSteelerHawg:: indeed, Apple it was (I couldn't remember myself)
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\r\nheinzfield:: GFYAC...What are Wallaes measurable??
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DaleLolley:: Sorry Hawg. That's why Apple's not here.
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\r\nsteelblitzkrieg:: No more girlapple? Bossapple now!
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\r\nDaleLolley:: He's in bed right now
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\r\nBlitzburghD:: Congrats anyway, Hawg... just for being you
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\r\nGFYAC:: 6'4 240
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\r\nsteelmann58:: Jim who was the reporter that stole your credit I remember talking about this on the other web site 
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\r\nSteelerHawg:: thanx Double D! 
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\r\nGFYAC:: runs in the neighborhood of 4.7...4.75
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\r\njimwexell:: GFYAC, it sounds like you know a little about Wallace. What can you tell us?
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\r\nDaleLolley:: Wallace could go inside or out. Kind of like Chad Brown
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\r\nheinzfield:: GFYAC...Did he play in any of the post season all star games..I was busy recruiting so I didn't see those games
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\r\nsteelmann58:: I think two players who have injury problems can be steals 
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\r\njimwexell:: Yes, congrats on being Hawg!
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\r\nDaleLolley:: But you have to wonder about Temple guys. All that losing &
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\r\nsteelmann58:: Cnaty in the 3rd
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\r\nsteelmann58:: Canty
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\r\nSteelerHawg:: thx wex .... it's more of a curse, really
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\r\nSteelerHawg:: 
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\r\nsteelmann58:: and Munoz around round 4
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\r\nHarryAWay:: Hey guys.
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\r\nGFYAC:: Nkwenti not withstanding
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: but this was Cory Dillon's first winning season. He did alright after leaving Cincy
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\r\nfury1:: WE HAVE NOT DRAFTED A GOOD PLAYER FROM TEMPLE YET
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\r\njimwexell:: Jerry D didn't necessarily steal my credit, but he didn't give me none. No biggie. I really shouldn't be whining about it.
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\r\nDaleLolley:: Boy, we've got a crew in here
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\r\nSteelCitySports:: \"Hawg\" is the man !
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\r\nGFYAC:: here is a skinny written about Wallace:
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\r\nheinzfield:: Munoz is soft IMO, I don't like him, but I respect your opinion Steelman
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\r\nSteelerHawg:: what's the good word on Randy Moss wanting to come to Steel town - more Raven fan whining?
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: hi Harry
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\r\nsteelmann58:: another Dot Atiyyah Ellison
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\r\nDaleLolley:: Please, no Randy Moss stuff. Crash/Trap has beaten that to death
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\r\nHarryAWay:: So, who are the guys that are free agents that the Steelers liked coming out of college?
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\r\njimwexell:: steelmann, I don't know about Munoz. He's had pretty serious and steady knee problems.
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\r\nGFYAC:: A natural Football player that consistently makes positive things happen
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\r\nsteelblitzkrieg:: Moss? No mas?
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: dale and wex, since this upcoming season is ARE's contract year, has there been any mention of extending him?
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\r\nSteelChowder:: I thought they liked Stockar McDougal.
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: all the talk is about Hines and Plax
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\r\nsteelmann58:: hey Harry
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SteelerHawg:: will we even be a playa in FA - after reading Wex's blog today, sounds like we might need to cut everyone to get under the cap!!
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\r\nDaleLolley:: I don't think they can afford to extend ARE at this point
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\r\nGFYAC:: Wallace stands out on film because of his propensity to be around the action
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\r\njimwexell:: Hawg, I haven't even bothered thinking about Moss in Pittsburgh. There is no chance. None.
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\r\nGFYAC:: Definitely has the ability to play in an array of systems in the NFL
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\r\nheinzfield:: GFYAC...If you are around the ball a lot you can play the game...obviously...
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\r\nBlitzburghD:: Let Mark Clayton be ARE insurance
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\r\nDaleLolley:: That's what I said Wex. They wouldn't have drafted him
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\r\njimwexell:: Dale, is Crash Trap? I was wondering about that. I do remember Trap really hating Madden though.
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: too bad Dale. They could have probably gotten a good deal on ARE like they did with Hines
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\r\nSteelPatrick:: thanks you thank you
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\r\nsteelmann58:: Wex who was the reporter is he still writing
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\r\nDaleLolley:: That was Dirt's theory, Jim
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\r\nSouthernStiller:: Hello everyone. Any news on what the FO is going to offer Plax?
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\r\njimwexell:: Harry, I'd need a list of those free agents in front of me. I can't think of any right now. I like to go back through the old Answer Man columns for UFA info.
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\r\nsteelmann58:: fed 15 is the date for franchise a player
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jimwexell:: I haven' t heard any mention of extending ARE. 
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\r\nDaleLolley:: Philly franchised Simon today
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: thanks dale and wex
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\r\nsteelmann58:: the Steelers will probably look for a vet Ot at the min
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\r\nSteelerHawg:: I'd imagine Hines is the only 1-yr left guy to get any love this year, no?
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\r\nCSyry:: Hampton, perhaps?
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\r\nheinzfield:: Hines will get his extension...
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ChipTheSteelerFan:: hopefully Casey will too
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\r\njimwexell:: Blitz, my hunch is that Mark Clayton will be an Eagle. Bye bye Freddie, Pinky.
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\r\nsteelmann58:: no question Hines gets the cash he deserves
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: did you hear Freddie bitching about TO?
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: The Raiders need to lineup Freddie Mitchell opposite of Plax
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\r\nSteelerHawg:: Chip - you think they want Casey to play a season after that knee, or would they give him some perhaps after mini/training camps?
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\r\nGFYAC:: Too much money for Porter
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\r\nsteelmann58:: Joe maybe Bradford who be mentioned allot
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\r\nDaleLolley:: Porter is going to be too expensive. He will end up being the big FA wide receiver this offseason, not Plex.
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\r\nGFYAC:: if they would spend that much they might as well franchise Plax
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\r\nBlitzburghD:: Sign David Givens
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: good point hawg
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\r\nSteelPatrick:: BIGGEST NFL QUESTION: Should Pat Tillman Be in the HOF??
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\r\noregonmooch:: when do the steelers have to tag a player a franchise player?
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\r\nDaleLolley:: I hate Claiborne
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\r\nCSyry:: dale, what about houshmandzadeh in cincy. is he a possibility
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\r\nSteelerHawg:: Givens will get the mid tender if they can't work something out sooner, IMO.
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\r\nSteelPatrick:: that is the question everyone is asking
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\r\nheinzfield:: David Givens is another viable option
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\r\nSteelerHawg:: no way we should give up a 1st for him
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\r\nBlitzburghD:: He'd be perfect opposite Ward
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\r\njimwexell:: steelman, it's Jerry DiPaola. He did the Rasheed Marshall story today. It made me think of that old story. I try to keep that blog a stream of consciousness kind of thing. I hope it doesn't get confusing. I link to stories and write about them as if you've opened the link. That could be a fatal mistake.
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\r\nDaleLolley:: Houshmandzadeh is slow and injury prone.
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\r\nsteelmann58:: I think feb 15
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\r\nsteelblitzkrieg:: Pat Tillman...no way!!!
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\r\nHarryAWay:: The question I'll ask is if you think he can do a better job than Foote?
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: no, Tillman shouldn't be in the HOF
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\r\nsteelmann58:: steelers need a speed guy
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\r\nCSyry:: what about all the talk about bubba franks 
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\r\nSteelChowder:: For the receiver position - - there's no way Mays will be the third receiver, right? I mean, we'll do something, right?
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\r\nGFYAC:: Green Bay will outbid the Steelers for him
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\r\nSteelerHawg:: I like the GA boys , Brown over Gibson - think one (or both) be available in the 2nd?
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\r\nDaleLolley:: Mays can't be No. 3. Can't
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\r\nSteelPatrick:: If he were to go in, he wouldn't go as a player but as a symbol.
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\r\nheinzfield:: Claiborne is not an upgrade over Foote
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\r\nGFYAC:: Mays will be gone...Cobb will hopefully be healthy
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\r\nDaleLolley:: I like Cobb a lot.
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\r\nHarryAWay:: I'm ok with the guy being Trotter or Hartwell but Claiborne seems like he would be most affordable. Claiborne not better than Foote? HAHA! What a laugh.
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\r\nsteelmann58:: I don't think franks a fit here
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\r\nSteelChowder:: If Plax goes and we don't sign a FA, what round would you expect us to take a WR in?
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\r\nheinzfield:: Will Cobb bounce back form injury to be ready by mini camp?
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\r\nSteelPatrick:: Zamir \"Corn\" Cobb ??
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\r\nBlitzburghD:: Anyone like Charles Lee on the cheap?
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\r\nDaleLolley:: Cobb is a smooth operator
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\r\njimwexell:: SouthernStiller, I believe Bouchette was right when he said they'd make a record offer, so I assume it will be about $9.5M bonus. My source who told me Art II wanted to franchise Plax now says it was Colbert who wanted to do that. I said, 'you told me Art II' two weeks ago. He said: No I didn't. Sorry.
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\r\nGFYAC:: Mike Williams will not see pick 30
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\r\nsteelmann58:: cobb a possion guy who they need
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\r\nSteelerHawg:: whoa ... looks like I'm late to the dance - franchise Plax? is that a possibility now?
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\r\nHarryAWay:: If they make Plax a record offer before they do something with Hines I think that's not kosher.
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\r\nDaleLolley:: Cobb is sneaky getting open across the middle. He's Bobby Shaw with balls.
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\r\nGFYAC:: right but Ward cannot beat the double team...is ARE good enough?
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\r\nSouthernStiller:: Thanks Wex. That sounds like they are going after him pretty hard, what does that mean for Ward's number.
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\r\nsteelmann58:: I think if they draft miller and add Bradford they will be fine
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\r\njimwexell:: We ought to introduce Crash to Mill and then they can call Madden and have a grand ol time hating the world.
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\r\nBlitzburghD:: Great line, Dale
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\r\nGFYAC:: Miller the CB right
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\r\nCSyry:: bottom line, is plaxico a steeler next year?
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\r\nGFYAC:: great player
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\r\nsteelmann58:: I liked cobb in college 
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\r\nSteelPatrick:: how mocuh cap space do we have???
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\r\nsteelmann58:: he will make the 53 man also
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\r\nsteelblitzkrieg:: Blitz doesn't like guy's without balls...Bell?
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\r\nheinzfield:: Marlin Jackson ahs dropped off in the last 2 years
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\r\nGFYAC:: Can't imagine he is a \"stellers\" type guy
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\r\nHarryAWay:: That's why Bell's not high on my favorites.
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\r\nsteelmann58:: I don't see them going defense in round 1
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\r\nSteelPatrick:: I meant much. I type too fast.
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\r\nCSyry:: the browner kid intrigues me
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\r\nfury1:: I LIKE A WR FROM NORTHERN COLORADO - VINCENT JACKSON
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\r\nsteelmann58:: hey all bets are off if Brown is there at 30
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\r\nSteelerHawg:: jackson's a NFL FS, I believe ... no way we should take one in the 1st, IMO
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\r\nTyranid:: I just hate seeing us lose both bell and burress with no compensation, is franchising burress with the interest of trading him even a possibility?
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\r\nGFYAC:: Love the Browner kid...but he will move up fast
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\r\nGFYAC:: not many Sophomores who are 6'4 220
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\r\nSteelChowder:: isn't it a pipe dream to believe Brown will be there at 30?
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\r\nGFYAC:: that can play Corner
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\r\nsteelblitzkrieg:: Jim/Dale What are the odds we take Heath Miller, if he drops, or Alex Smith in the 1st?
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\r\nDaleLolley:: Scott Shieds was 6-4 220.
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\r\nheinzfield:: Carlos Rogers can play...I liked him in the Sugar Bowl...
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\r\nBlitzburghD:: To each his own, Harry... I just think there is more to it
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: Scott Shields was a nice guy
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\r\nsteelmann58:: smith in round 2 or 3
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\r\nHarryAWay:: I'll be waiting for your story on those free agents that the Steelers have had interest on in the past Wex.
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\r\nGFYAC:: Browner can develop into a Great CB...and they have at least 1 year before they HAVE to start him
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\r\nsteelmann58:: dale you don't like te in round 1
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\r\nTyranid:: is the interest in barnes real on the part of the steelers or is that just a smokescreen?
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\r\nDaleLolley:: Not particularly
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\r\nBlitzburghD:: You have to work harder for those wins, Wex... that's my beef
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\r\njimwexell:: They have to pay Ward more than Burress because of the 4 to 0 Pro Bowls. Like it or not, that's how the Steelers operate. Pro Bowls may be political, but they mean a lot to brass.
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\r\nSteelChowder:: I'm with you steelman - - although that UAB kid is interesting too.
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\r\nSteelerHawg:: we had some good ones going draft w/e last year
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\r\nheinzfield:: DE in round 1
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\r\nsteelmann58:: Ricardo will be opposite deshea
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\r\nSteelerHawg:: chats, that is
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\r\nGFYAC:: CB round 1
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\r\njimwexell:: I doubt Plax is a Steeler next year because of what they'll have to pay Ward.
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\r\nSteelPatrick:: I think the RFAs who are gone are Hope, Foote, and Haynes. Reed, Keisel and Mays are here to stay.
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\r\nDaleLolley:: That's why I couldn't get in, I guess
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\r\nBlitzburghD:: Ok, so who is with me on Bubba-freaking-Franks
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\r\nsteelblitzkrieg:: Allot of talk lately about Rooney only interested in fielding a team that puts people in the seats, and not really trying to win the SB. any comments?
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\r\nsteelmann58:: I agree steel chowder he a good choice also as well as roby either in 2 or 3
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\r\nTyranid:: I like Franks.. what is the price tag on a solid te like him in free agency?
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\r\nCSyry:: steelers don't throw to the tight end, so I can't see it happening, blitz
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\r\njimwexell:: I think Marlin Jackson is too physical to adapt to the new non-contact rules. I think CBs may not be as valuable as they were last year. I think pass-rushers are more important now. That said, I love Carlos Rodgers.
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\r\nBlitzburghD:: That's a myth... get him Dale
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\r\nibleedBLACKandGOLD81:: dale/jim - what is plax's salary next year if they put the franchise or transition tag on him?
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\r\nsteelmann58:: Jim will they franchise him and trade him
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\r\nDaleLolley:: They want to win a Super Bowl. Don't get me started on the don't throw to the TE crap. Franks is OK, but you may have to overpay.
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\r\nGFYAC:: Rogers, Miller (CB) or Browner in round 1B
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\r\nsteelblitzkrieg:: CS, We did when Neil was here, ever since we haven't had a quality QB to throw it to the TE?
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\r\nheinzfield:: Wex, I stated the same thing about Rogers a few posts ago....He can play, period
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\r\nsteelmann58:: I agree Franks is overrated 
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\r\nsteelblitzkrieg:: SCS...Ouch my eyes are burning.
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\r\nSteelCitySports:: Sorry BLITZ :( wrong button
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\r\nSteelerHawg:: sbk - it's better than pink!
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\r\nCSyry:: I see it the other way steelblitz
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\r\nTyranid:: overrated? It's hard to find pass catching tightends who can actually block..
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: WOW. Great job joe (at changing from yellow LOL) that will be a lot of people.
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\r\nSteelChowder:: any chances the Steelers trade up this year in round one?
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\r\nCSyry:: bruener was good enough, but we tomczak, miller, kordell, etc
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: I hope we do max out the chat room on draft day again
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\r\nsteelmann58:: I think the opposite steel might happen
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\r\noregonmooch:: any chance they'll let plex go& go after porter?
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\r\nHarryAWay:: I'll be in New York at the Draft again this year.
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\r\nDaleLolley:: I don't think they'll trade up since they have no great need. Stay at home and let a good player fall
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\r\nsteelblitzkrieg:: I had red,, then I noticed BD had it first, then I went green and someone took it...I'm man enough.
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\r\nheinzfield:: I believe Ernest Shazor is a better prospect than Marlin Jackson...
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\r\nBlitzburghD:: I think he's been underutilized in GB
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\r\nTyranid:: ooh fun fun.. too bad its not at MSG
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\r\nCSyry:: shazor is great against the run, so-so against the pass. he might move to lb.
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\r\nHarryAWay:: Would the Steelers consider Shazor as a fast linebacker like they did Taylor last year?
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\r\njimwexell:: Tyranid, I doubt they'll trade Burress via franchise-and-trade. The NFLPA is trying to outlaw that maneuver and the Rooneys have never been\r\nmavericks with the rules. As far as compensation, they will have the 8-9M Plax didn't take and they will sign someone else. As for Heath Miller, he fits a position of need and makes up for the loss of Plax in some ways. If they draft a WR first, he'd sit behind ARE. I don't know if you could say that about Miller and Tuman.
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\r\nsteelmann58:: they not going to waste big money on franks
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: harry, I read the draft won't be at MSG
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\r\nSteelChowder:: we have a lot of teams around us that like to move - - Philly seems to always trade up -- NE moves a lot too
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\r\nBlitzburghD:: Anyone who can make the TE a weapon again in Pittsburgh is worth the coin. Look what they paid Bruener...
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\r\nGFYAC:: I say...Justin Miller round 1...J.R. Russell Round 2 and Rian Wallace round 3
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\r\nCSyry:: I'm sorry, I'm just not comfortable with randle el starting
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\r\nheinzfield:: I view Shazor as a fast OLB
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\r\nSteelerHawg:: Wex/Dale/et. al - what's your opine of one of the GA boys in the 2nd? Will one (or either) fall that far?
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\r\nDaleLolley:: TE is definitely a position that needs to be upgraded. Tuman can't start\r\nagainst next season
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\r\nHarryAWay:: It was packed last year so we'll see what happens. I'm waiting to find out if I have confirmed tickets or if I have to go midnight the night before.
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\r\nsteelmann58:: I think they will make sure there plenty of weapons foe been
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\r\njimwexell:: If Browner can run at the combine, no way he falls to 30. If he can't run, no way you'd want him at 30. As for Alex Smith, I don't want him in the first.
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\r\nsteelblitzkrieg:: BlitzD who did you want in round one last year?
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\r\nBlitzburghD:: DeAngelo Hall
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\r\nSteelChowder:: I'm with you CSyry - - I like ARE as a three and some height in there with Ward - - which goes back to Williamson and White
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\r\nHarryAWay:: Last I had read Browner is running just under 4.5 in preparation for the Combine.
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\r\nCSyry:: I wouldn't have a problem with that, chowder
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\r\nSteelCitySports:: EVERYONE--- LET JIM AND DALE CATCH UP 
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\r\nGFYAC:: If that is true then browner will be a top 15 pick
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\r\nsteelmann58:: there does not seem to be a replacement for Kimo in fa or the draft
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\r\nHarryAWay:: Is Alex Smith a fallback option at tight end if Miller doesn't fall or the price isn't right to move up and get him?
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: WEx, I read today that Browner is hoping he can run a 4.5. That is a slow \"hope for\" time
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\r\nsteelblitzkrieg:: That's what I thought, same as me...Great minds think alike (CB 04) (TE 05).
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\r\nGFYAC:: at 6'4 he can run 4.5 and be terrific
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\r\nCSyry:: he's good, but injury prone and 25
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\r\nDaleLolley:: Porter will be too expensive.
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\r\nGFYAC:: Too much Money for Smoot
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\r\nBlitzburghD:: Love Miller, not sold on Smith, but have always liked the big guy from Green Bay'
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\r\nHarryAWay:: Wine taste on a beer budget guys. You can add three free agents for the price of Porter or Smoot.
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\r\nGFYAC:: I think they will be ok with ARE as the starter...as long as they get someone that can get upfield and outside when they go 3-wide
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\r\nDaleLolley:: Cobb isn't super fast, but he's quick in abd out of cuts
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\r\nheinzfield:: Chevy Troutman will(would)be a helluva TE. IS THERE LEGIT INTEREST????
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\r\nSteelChowder:: if Troutman doesn't have a B-Ball future, he should consider it
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\r\nHarryAWay:: Be back in a couple minutes. I'm at work between things.
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\r\nGFYAC:: I can't believe that the STeelers will take an OT in round 1
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\r\nsteelmann58:: damm bad news I was hoping Williamson would be there
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\r\nDaleLolley:: I've been on the Troutman TE bandwagon for three years. I mentioned it to Colbert a couple of years ago and he nodded in agreement
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\r\nsteelmann58:: Jim what about Britt
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\r\nBlitzburghD:: I think Becht is an upgrade, but a notch below Franks
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: wow, I finally got caught up
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\r\nGFYAC:: they can't spend their money on a TE
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\r\nheinzfield:: Becht is a decent option Steelman...
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\r\nTyranid:: he might be cheap.. although he wants catches.. we would have to convince him we'd throw to him
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\r\nsteelblitzkrieg:: Troutman? A fish in the used to be three rivers?
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\r\nSteelChowder:: the fish that saved Pittsburgh!
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\r\nGFYAC:: only if they can release Riemersma and bring the TE at less the difference then it makes no sense to bring in Becht
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\r\nDaleLolley:: If the TE gets open, he'll get the ball
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\r\nDaleLolley:: Riemersma is gone
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\r\nBlitzburghD:: Tight ends are cheap.
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\r\nBlitzburghD:: And Big Ben will throw to a good TE... he found he bums we have now
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\r\nGFYAC:: if they are going to upgrade the TE position the go big...draft a kind in round 1...if not we are fine with Tuman
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\r\njimwexell:: Bubba Freakin Franks! --- I don't buy the Rooney filling the seats theory. He wants to win. His grandpa won. His dad won. He'll want to win badly. -- Chowder's bad news. Please, forget about him. I like him as a player, but it won't happen here. You know how they feel. --- Roby looks like a third-rounder, he and Brandon Jones of Okla. -- Steelers will throw to the TE if he gets open. Bruener had his most catches as a rook, then Kordell came, then Bruener slowed down, now they have very slow TEs. The beauty of a first-round TE is you get the blocking and the threat in one package. Right now, they need four to cover all bases. -- The Franchise tag on Plax would be 7.7 M.
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: I think this is a big question that will eventually be answered: Will Chad Scott take a paycut and will he be willing to play FS. I think he would be a big upgrade over Hope.
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\r\nFromPittsburghWithLove:: I'd rather see Ike play FS than chad
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: Ike is too dumb
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\r\nBlitzburghD:: Scott can't carry Hope's jock
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\r\nsteelblitzkrieg:: Smith is more of a receiving TE, don't know enough about Everett?
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\r\nsteelmann58:: I like miller someone to help out ben
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\r\nBlitzburghD:: Ike is dumb
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: come on blitz. Hope is not the ballhawk we need
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\r\nBlitzburghD:: You're 1-fer-2 Chip
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\r\nDaleLolley:: I like Everett. There's a guy nobody's talking about
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\r\nibleedBLACKandGOLD81:: Ike isn't a good enough tackler to play FS...we need a ball hawk
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: 500 isn't bad
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\r\nFromPittsburghWithLove:: Ya i like Everett too, although he's a little bit more of an athlete than a football player
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\r\nBlitzburghD:: First year starting... give the kid a break
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: I would make the playoffs in the NFC
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\r\nTyranid:: Are the steelers considering brodney poole or shazor as an upgrade to hope? Are we at risk of losing any of our RFAs?
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\r\nSteelerHawg:: according to meatloaf, you should aim for .6666667
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\r\nibleedBLACKandGOLD81:: I'd like to see us drop chad scott and pick up ty law to play FS
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\r\nBlitzburghD:: .500 is great if you're Cleveland
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\r\nTyranid:: Everett's been hurt right?
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\r\nGFYAC:: why are we trying to upgrade Hope??? he has started 1 year and did pretty well thank you very much
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\r\nfury1:: CAN CATCH AND BLOCK - CAN PLAY RIGHT NOW
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\r\nDaleLolley:: I think Bettis will be back for one more shot. Especially since the SB is in Detroit
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: because hope is an UFA after this year
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\r\nFromPittsburghWithLove:: The only image I have of Hope right now is being stiffed armed by C Mart
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\r\nCSyry:: dammit, no tight end in round 1. either receiver or corner
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\r\nsteelmann58:: I think we give hope another full year
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: That is the problem. He is a SS trying to play FS
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\r\nDaleLolley:: CMart is a hall of famer. There's no dishonor there.
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\r\nBlitzburghD:: I guess you missed the Miami game
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: I agree hope was solid not spectacular
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\r\nCSyry:: I'd give him another year
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: me too
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: but Chad should be ready to take over
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\r\njimwexell:: With Colbert, the Steelers are always a threat to trade up, down, around -- I like Colbert's drafts, particularly the first days. -- Ernest Shazor looked silly trying to tackle Vince Young. I thought Shazor played poorly the only time I watched him. No offense. -- Hawg, I don't know if either Georgia boy will last to the second. I think Reggie Brown is a consideration at 30 -- I don't want to replace Kimo. I think he's in great shape, has a great attitude and is productive. They also have fine backups. I don't see them drafting a Dlineman early. -- mooch, the Steelers have interest in Porter. They've always liked him. Obviously, it's a matter of money. Fury, I like kay Jay Harris, too. A lot. but he did fumble twice against FSU and is 25 or 26. But I do like him. I think he'll be a third- or fourth-=round steal. Heck,l I'
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\r\nsteelmann58:: well if Roby there in round 3 and we have not taken a wr 
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: Wex, you and I are about the only ones on Kimo's side
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\r\nibleedBLACKandGOLD81:: haha I won't
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\r\nCSyry:: next year, they should worry about getting kimo's replacement
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\r\nGFYAC:: you write a blog Jim??? :-)
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\r\nibleedBLACKandGOLD81:: if chris henry is available second round we should maybe get him
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\r\nibleedBLACKandGOLD81:: but there's another bad attitude wr
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\r\nCSyry:: he's got character issues, but has immense talent
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\r\nsteelblitzkrieg:: Kimo is old, but after last years big numbers did they focus on him, which allowed smith to take over his stats?
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\r\nTyranid:: Are there any reports regarding Hampton.. has he \"fully\" recovered?
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\r\nsteelmann58:: if they don't draft Channing forget henry
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\r\nFromPittsburghWithLove:: Any chance Chris Hoke could make a bid for Kimo's job?
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\r\nCSyry:: will oliver ross return as either a starter or backup to starks
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\r\nSteelPatrick:: I wonder why Cowher picked Kendall Gammon as his Pro Bowl Need player??
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\r\nBlitzburghD:: Whoa... add me to the KvO bandwagon
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: because he is an idiot
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: your added
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\r\nSteelPatrick:: Does Cowher hate Scheck that much??
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\r\nDaleLolley:: Forget about Henry. I like Everett's athletic ability. Played for a big-time program.
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: Cowher should have taken Kreider
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\r\nsteelblitzkrieg:: Steelpatrick...No natural long snappers...ex steeler.
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\r\nibleedBLACKandGOLD81:: I think there's a good chance this is kimo's last year...we can't depend on a rookie to take over we need to get his replacement now if he's going to be a rookie this year
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\r\nsteelmann58:: I like Kimo allot but think we need to try an find another smith
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\r\nSteelPatrick:: Cowher should taken KImo
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\r\nSteelPatrick:: Then the Steelers would have 3 Pro Bowl DL.
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: kirsche and Hoke can replace Kimo in 2006
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\r\nsteelmann58:: The Most Important thing is to be solid in Day 2 of the draft\\
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\r\nPGPROUD:: Good point Dale, but the Steelers have 0 Miami players. There not all bad attitudes. What gives?
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\r\nCSyry:: that'd be nice for a change
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\r\nsteelblitzkrieg:: Cowher never takes his own, it would look bad, he takes who is most deserving or most needed.
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\r\nsteelmann58:: chip they feel hoke is a NT not a de
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\r\nDaleLolley:: They need to start drafting Miami players. One every year.
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\r\nBlitzburghD:: I haven't seen enough of him to buy in, Dale
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\r\nSteelPatrick:: Isn't Schneck a natural LS Blitzkrieg?? or is Gammon a UFA and Cowher is interested?
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\r\nHarryAWay:: Shazor's going to look like a fool chasing a guy with 4.3 speed. How many guys look like a fool chasing Michael Vick?
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: people thought Kimo was a NT not a 3-4 DE
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\r\nibleedBLACKandGOLD81:: I think hoke would make a pretty good 3-4 de
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\r\nBlitzburghD:: But he is intriguing
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\r\nTyranid:: Are any of the practice squad/nfl Europe guys legitimate roster contenders in 05? Roper looked good in practices I think at least early on last year.. and then he dropped off the map..
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\r\nFromPittsburghWithLove:: I think Luis Castillo outta NW would be a perfect fit here. Big and strong and really smart
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\r\nCSyry:: I'm with dale on everett. no Winslow, but he's more than good enough. remember, brock berlin was his qb
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\r\nsteelblitzkrieg:: Yes, but is he as good, and he is a steeler, who would earn a bonus that hurt's are cap.
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\r\nsteelmann58:: count me in for ROPER
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: take him in the 2nd round
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\r\nsteelmann58:: and also
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ChipTheSteelerFan:: he is the next TO
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\r\nsteelmann58:: Castilo
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\r\nCSyry:: what's his height, gfyac
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\r\nSteelerHawg:: 6'3\", IIRC
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\r\nibleedBLACKandGOLD81:: jim/dale - I was late...did someone say that the steelers won't even be making a qualified offer to kendrell bell?
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\r\nCSyry:: get him
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\r\nfury1:: ROPER SHOULD HAVE MADE THE TEAM LAST YEAR, NOT ALONZO
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\r\nGFYAC:: 6'3 205 4.5/40
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\r\nsteelmann58:: Collins has good hands
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: I agree fury
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\r\nsteelmann58:: agree Fury
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\r\nSteelChowder:: year three is usually when they drop the stiffs - - Jackson's probably gone this year
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ChipTheSteelerFan:: if Russell isn't the next TO, he will be a Chad Johnson mold at least
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\r\nCSyry:: I trade down and get Russell if they want him bad enough
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\r\nTyranid:: Speaking of Miami players, how far do you think Parrish will drop? He's freakishly small / fast..
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\r\nsteelblitzkrieg:: Jim/Dale do you really think they will go with James Harrison inside, or did I misinterpret?
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\r\nCSyry:: the guy I really want from Miami isn't draft-eligible: Hester
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GFYAC:: will Russell be there in Round 2 for us?
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\r\nTyranid:: Jim: They had a rookie corner covering SC's fastest receiver.. there wasn't much pool was going to be able to do, play in play out
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: he should be gf
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\r\nsteelmann58:: JIM I forgot about Mankins I also like Kazur from Toledo
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PGPROUD:: Jim I like that t-g thing. The eagles have been doing it for the past couple of years.
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\r\nFromPittsburghWithLove:: Anthony Alabi shouldn't be overlooked
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\r\nsteelmann58:: depends if there a run at wr Russell never last
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\r\nsteelblitzkrieg:: Alabi? Sounds ripe for the Ravens?
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\r\njimwexell:: I like Joel Dresseen. I also like the Boston College TE. His name escapes me. A fifth-rounder. I don't like the Cal TE. I\r\ncan't remember any others. -- My guess is Bettis will be back next season. Just a guess though. He's kept it a secret. Even KDKA, which sent a man to the Pro Bowl, couldn't get an answer out of him tonight.
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\r\nsteelmann58:: hey From great call on alabi
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\r\nSteelChowder:: six WR went in the first round last year - - maybe that means less of a run this year
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\r\nFromPittsburghWithLove:: Anybody think Wayne Hunter would starting on this team instead of Alonzo?
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: the 49ers should trade down, then draft Charlie Frye or Jason Campbell later
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\r\nsteelmann58:: anyone would have been better than Jackson
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Tyranid:: Will Alonzo be on the roster next year.. or will they finally cut him?
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: I do with love
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\r\nFromPittsburghWithLove:: no Julian Battle would have been worse
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\r\nsteelmann58:: anyone concern we might lose reed
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\r\nHarryAWay:: I don't see any team willing to trade up for any player or pay the first overall pick. The 49ers are stuck picking in a year with no clear cut 1st overall.
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\r\nfury1:: JIM THAT IS DAVE KASHETTA
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\r\nCSyry:: no. he'll be back
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\r\nPGPROUD:: Doesn't Russell have that bad attitude. What he did to the coach during the bowl game was wrong!
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: it was wrong
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: but let Hines mentor him
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\r\nsteelmann58:: people make mistakes that what interviews are for
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\r\nSteelerHawg:: LJ Smith or Jason Witten would def. have been better than Alonzo
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\r\nFromPittsburghWithLove:: speaking of Tight Ends, Anthony Curtis from Portland State might be the best kept secret in all of college football
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\r\nBlitzburghD:: I wanted Witten so so bad
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\r\nsteelblitzkrieg:: No more Aloslow Sacksnone please.
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\r\nTyranid:: in hindsight.. Randall Gay would have been better than Alonzo..
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\r\nPGPROUD:: witten would look awful nice.
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\r\nBlitzburghD:: Tell 'em, Joe
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\r\nCSyry:: I can't believe hank-freakin-poteat has a super bowl ring
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: and cowher doesn't
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\r\nSteelerHawg:: or josh-freakin'miller
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: and cowher doesn't
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\r\nPGPROUD:: yea, for 3 weeks of work!
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\r\nCSyry:: that playoff game against the browns was the worst performance by a corner of all-time
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: jim miller
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\r\nsteelmann58:: another nice pick From
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\r\nibleedBLACKandGOLD81:: will somebody please tell me if the steelers are going to make kendrell bell a qualifying offer?
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\r\nCSyry:: he's unrestricted, I believe
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GFYAC:: UFA
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\r\nSteelerHawg:: what is a qualifying offer?
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\r\nGFYAC:: Bell
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: they will. they will offer to hold the door so it doesn't hit him in the ass as he is walking out
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\r\nTyranid:: there was some new England article praising miller's contributions in the playoffs as a vast upgrade from last year, the mere discussion made me sick
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\r\nsteelmann58:: any thought on the Rb from Canada forget his college 
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\r\nGFYAC:: RFA's can get qualifying offers I believe
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\r\nibleedBLACKandGOLD81:: he's restricted isn't he?
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\r\nCSyry:: qualifying offers go to restricted free agents to maintain their rights
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\r\nSteelerHawg:: nah, he's a UFA
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\r\nBlitzburghD:: Such hatred... hahaha
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\r\njimwexell:: Forget about Chris Henry. Another bad actor. Steelers would never take a guy who gave a crowd the finger, then was suspended, came back, was suspended again. -- Hampton's fine. I think his loss hurt the production of the ends. Not to dilute what Hoke did because the run defense actually improved. -- Hoke taking Kimo's job? He may be up to it but I doubt Cowher would pull that trigger. -- Where's Dirt? Tell him I just got a Neko Case bootleg. It just came on my CD shuffle. -- WHo is Everett?
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\r\nPGPROUD:: do you remember their punter last year-just terrible
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\r\nSteelerHawg:: I think they should offer hime a 1 yr, maybe for $1 mil
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\r\nsteelmann58:: chip if the door hits him will he go on ir for 2005
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\r\nGFYAC:: players who finish their 3rd year and their contract is up then the Team has an option of offer them Qualifying offers
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\r\nDaleLolley:: Everett is the Miami TE
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\r\nSteelCitySports:: Explanation of Free Agency --- 
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\r\nSteelCitySports:: http://steelers.scout.com/2/349699.html
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: hahahaha (steelmann) he would then want an injury settlement
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\r\nSteelerHawg:: I always call them 'tenders'
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\r\nsteelmann58:: I wonder if reed will get an outside offer from maybe the jets
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\r\nGFYAC:: Tenders right
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\r\nsteelmann58:: lol chip
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\r\nGFYAC:: Reed should stay
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\r\nTyranid:: will they give him a minimum tender? (reed that is)
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\r\nCSyry:: I think reed's comfortable here. I can't see him leaving unless he gets a ridiculous offer
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\r\nDaleLolley:: They'll at least go mid-level on Reed
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\r\nGFYAC:: if they do the Steelers will get no compensation for him right
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\r\nsteelmann58:: Jim who was the beat writer that you talked about in the blog
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\r\nSteelerHawg:: hopefully they get something long-term worked out afterwards ... $1.3 (or whatever it is this year) is steep for a K, no?
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\r\nsteelblitzkrieg:: CS a kicker is comfortable in Heinz, that's an oxymoron.
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\r\nGFYAC:: Gardoki makes about that much
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\r\nCSyry:: no doubt about that
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\r\nSteelerHawg:: if they mid-level him , it'd take a first
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\r\nSteelerHawg:: to sign him away
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\r\nTyranid:: he hit a lot of big kicks down the road.. I just remember the Jacksonville\r\ngame..
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\r\nsteelmann58:: yes if reed leaves we get nothing
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\r\njimwexell:: The Europe guys aren't really contenders. That's a meat-grinder. Roper definitely has a shot. You also have to like Walter Young, at least for a look. -- Oh, everett the Miami TE. I'm not buying. -- J.R. Russell is a stud with a horrible attitude. Another me-me-me receiver. Man, these guys make me long for the days\r\nfor Plax. 
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\r\nSteelerHawg:: Gardocki does, & that hurts, IMO. He's never had a punt blocked\r\nthough
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GFYAC:: if it is the low Tender
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\r\nBlitzburghD:: The ass-beat writer was DiPaola
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: dale and wex, do you think the Steelers would take a chance on a project like Larry Brackins? HE played at a community college
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\r\nDaleLolley:: The players who are in their plans are the ones they didn't send to Europe.
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\r\nHarryAWay:: I'd have to think the Steelers offer Reed a long term deal prior to free agency
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: I hope not. I hate MNF
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\r\nsteelmann58:: cool that means they are given Burr one last start
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\r\nSteelPatrick:: I dunno what is worse now: Patriots Super Bowl Champs or the WWE.
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\r\nCSyry:: the former
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\r\nsteelmann58:: and Iiorio the long snapper
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\r\nSteelerHawg:: someone said the SB champ usually opens at home ... the Steeler/NE game is in Pitt again next year
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\r\nDaleLolley:: You couldn't possibly hate MNF like the writers do.
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\r\nGFYAC:: Steeler extension...Ward, Hampton, Reed, Foote, ARE, Hope..in that order
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\r\nTyranid:: so is it unusual to not hear any chatter about extensions yet? or is that usually done after the draft?
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\r\nSteelPatrick:: hmmm...3 1st rounders.
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\r\nBlitzburghD:: Same here, Chip
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\r\nDaleLolley:: I like Duff from ND. Nice player
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\r\nGFYAC:: Vontez??
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\r\nsteelmann58:: yes is he a cb'
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\r\nSteelPatrick:: one is ours, one from Plax and one if some team is crazy enough to sign Jeff Reed when he is signed mid-level
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\r\nCSyry:: ward, hampton, and reed. hopefully burress stays, only because porter will be expensive and there is nobody better out there
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: I hate the announcers. I hate the sideline reporter and I hate having to stay up past 12:30 am to watch the Steelers, then turn around\r\nand get up at 4:30 am
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\r\nDaleLolley:: I mean I like Tuck from ND. Not Duff.
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\r\nBlitzburghD:: MNF kicked my ass when I had the Tuesday slot
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\r\nsteelmann58:: did anyone notice during allot of games it seemed the announcers almost rooting\r\nagainst us
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: Then it is worse when you stay up and the Steelers lose
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\r\nCSyry:: the two jets games come to mind
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\r\nCSyry:: phil simms was pulling for ny hard
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\r\nBlitzburghD:: brb
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\r\nSteelerHawg:: phill simms can pull . .... ah nevermind
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\r\nTyranid:: It was nice to see Marino root for the steelers
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\r\nsteelmann58:: tuck a pass rushing de
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\r\nCSyry:: I could have phrased that better
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\r\nDaleLolley:: Tuck an OLB
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\r\nDaleLolley:: and situational guy as a rookie
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: tuck would be a nice pickup
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\r\nFromPittsburghWithLove:: Tuck would have to be in the 1st round
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\r\nFromPittsburghWithLove:: no thanks
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\r\nsteelmann58:: could use him as a pass rusher right away
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\r\nFromPittsburghWithLove:: this sounds similar to something...
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\r\nSteelPatrick:: 9 Steelers in the Pro Bowl...that is pretty good isn't it??
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\r\nDaleLolley:: Tuck will be a third rounder.
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\r\nSteelPatrick:: I wonder if there will be a 10th....
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\r\nSteelerHawg:: until it's time to add in the pro bowl bonuses to the salary cap
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\r\nibleedBLACKandGOLD81:: Justin Tuck?
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\r\nDaleLolley:: Too small to play end. Not enough teams playing the 3-4 yet.
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\r\nsteelmann58:: them if he there it might be worth it
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: Only if you put a hit out on some players Patrick
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\r\nHarryAWay:: It's nice to see them respected but not the bonus counting against the salary cap.
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\r\nsteelblitzkrieg:: 9 PB players is allot of cap space eaten up next year.
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\r\nHarryAWay:: I thought Kazur played well during the Shrine Bowl week from all reports
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\r\nFromPittsburghWithLove:: You really think Tuck will be 3rd round? I'm hearing late first early2nd...
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\r\nsteelmann58:: Jim thanks for the reply no offense taken
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\r\nTyranid:: have you guys seen Manuel White from UCLA? What round do you think he will go.. and is he strictly a FB in the NFL?
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: Wex, you almost got it right. The Browns will take an Ohio player, but it won't be Frye. It will be Maurice Clarrett.
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: LOL
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\r\nFromPittsburghWithLove:: Maurice tinks Cowher would understand him
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\r\nSteelerHawg:: not w/Savage there
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\r\nFromPittsburghWithLove:: thinks*
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\r\nSteelCitySports:: What about Khalif Barnes ?
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\r\nsteelblitzkrieg:: Sorry Jim Alonzo Jackson = Alonslow Sacksnone
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\r\nsteelmann58:: collins the miss wr sent to Europe should be watched
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\r\nSteelerHawg:: Savage/Crennle should turn that thing around .... not tomorrow, but someday .... I miss Butch already...
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\r\nSteelPatrick:: Whichever NFL Europe team has the most Steelers is gonna be my favorite team.
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\r\nFromPittsburghWithLove:: David Baas would be a nice pick
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\r\nFromPittsburghWithLove:: man he's nasty
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\r\nSteelPatrick:: There is too many German teams in NFLEurope
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\r\nibleedBLACKandGOLD81:: I think so too but we won't be able to get him 2nd round
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\r\nTyranid:: baas isn't all that fast though.. if you need him to pull or block down field
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\r\nCSyry:: who will be targets for restructuring their cap number
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: Patrick, almost all the teams are in Germany now
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\r\nibleedBLACKandGOLD81:: he could replace hartings next year at center then he won't be pulling much
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\r\nsteelmann58:: miller or Williamson or brown are my 1st round targets
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: cya dale
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\r\nTyranid:: cya dale, thanks
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\r\nSteelCitySports:: Thanks Dale
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\r\nibleedBLACKandGOLD81:: bye dale
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\r\nSteelPatrick:: Why Germany?? does Germany like football?
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\r\nsteelblitzkrieg:: Later Dale.
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: Wex, I just PM'd you some info on Brackins
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\r\nCSyry:: later dale
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: I guess it is more popular there
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\r\nOrius:: How about either of the WVU boys.........KayJay Harris or the WR?
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\r\nSteelPatrick:: might as well be the GFL\\
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\r\nSteelerHawg:: later dale
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: I agree Patrick
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\r\nibleedBLACKandGOLD81:: anyone think colclough is going to be starting next year?
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: yes
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\r\nFromPittsburghWithLove:: tep
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\r\nFromPittsburghWithLove:: yep*
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\r\nsteelmann58:: thanks dale
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\r\nsteelmann58:: yep
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\r\nibleedBLACKandGOLD81:: and townsend at the other corner position?
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\r\nSteelPatrick:: I guess the other countries dont like USA and NFL enough to have a NFLE team.
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\r\nSteelPatrick:: Why is Taglibue so obsessed with getting a NFL team in LA??
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: the 2nd biggest market.
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\r\nfury1:: MONEY
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: money
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\r\nSteelPatrick:: and should we even have a NFL teams in Canada and Mexico?
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\r\njimwexell:: steelman, Jerry DiPaola. --- Another potential RFA loss is Keisel -- seventh-round compensation. Then again, they'll have the opportunity to match. -- Not sure about Myron Cope. I would assume he'll be back. I do know neither side wants to fire him and have a Bob Prince PR fiasco on their hands. -- I do not\r\nremember Manuel White. -- I liked what I saw of Fred Gibson, but I don't know enough about him. The Ga. player I liked was the kid who pushed Antaj Hawthorn around in the bowl game -- Max Jean-Gilles, but he didn't come out like he was supposed to. He reminded me of James Harrison,l a smaller guy who pushed people every which way. -- I love Khalif Barnes. Top-notch LT, will be in the league for 12 years.
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: they are testing the waters in Mexico
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\r\nibleedBLACKandGOLD81:: I don't know but it might be the los angeles colts in the next couple years if indy doesn't get a new stadium
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\r\nSteelPatrick:: Canada and Mexico would mess up the divisions
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: that is why they have preseason games there
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: well one reason why
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\r\njimwexell:: Jeff Hartings is probably the 
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\r\nTyranid:: If we could get a guy like parrish in the 2nd round to stretch the field that would be quite amazing.. I'd love to see how New England would cover him 
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\r\nSteelPatrick:: do the Fans in LA even want a team in LA??
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\r\nsteelblitzkrieg:: Dinner is here, I'll talk to you guy's later
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\r\njimwexell:: Hartings would probably be the guy to renegotiate.
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\r\nSteelerHawg:: later sbk
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\r\nTyranid:: not really.. they hate traffic.. and are very bitter about the raiders leaving
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\r\nSteelPatrick:: Didn't the Raiders and Rams in LA moved away cuz they werent making any money in LA?
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\r\nsteelmann58:: I agree Jim Hartings seems like a fair guy
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\r\nSteelerHawg:: Wex - will he be asked to take a Bettis/Bruener cut (perhaps not to that\r\nextreme), or salary to bonus renociation?
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: cya blitzkrieg
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\r\nibleedBLACKandGOLD81:: there wasn't a big market there for the rams and I heard the raiders move there was always only temporary but that could be wrong
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\r\nsteelmann58:: I have to believe if Bettis stays they won't have to draft a rb
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\r\nFromPittsburghWithLove:: you draft a RB regardless if Bettis stays
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\r\nSteelPatrick:: L.A. Colts hhmmmm.. L.A. Vikings.....hmmmm.....Mexico City Steelers...LOL
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\r\nsteelmann58:: Jim could haynes be a fa loss
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: Parrish is too small. 5'9 175
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\r\njimwexell:: Orius, I love Kay Jay Harris -- third-round, fourth-round steal; Chris Henry will play elsewhere because of his bad attitude and he will probably burn the Steelers some day. -- I\r\nthink Colclough will start next year. I(
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\r\nTyranid:: Haynes is a RFA right?
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\r\nibleedBLACKandGOLD81:: I really really hope we don't give up haynes
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\r\njimwexell:: I'm the PFW mole.
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\r\nfsafety:: to many good backs this year to pass on one of them 
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\r\nFromPittsburghWithLove:: Harris would be a great pick in the third
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\r\nSteelPatrick:: Any Bus types in the Draft??
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\r\nsteelmann58:: harris is kind old though at 26
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\r\nFromPittsburghWithLove:: Brandon Jacobs
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: Wait until the 4th for a RB
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\r\nTyranid:: Noah Herron?
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\r\nFromPittsburghWithLove:: Herron isn't that big
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\r\nOrius:: Thanks Jim!
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\r\nSteelPatrick:: I don't want a skinny minny at HB, I want a Big Fat Fast dude who would make Ray Lewis cry.
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: we missed out on Greg Jones
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: last year
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\r\njimwexell:: I would assume they'd simply give hartings some kind of bonus and he'd extend. Kinda difficult to ask a Pro Bowler to take a pay cut.
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\r\nSteelPatrick:: We should trade for Greg Jones
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\r\nSteelCitySports:: Patrick the only person like that is Ray-Rays MOMMA 
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\r\nSteelPatrick:: oooo
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\r\nTyranid:: Ray Lewis should be blocked by the FB or a OG.. its the safeties, etc.. that the big tailback would be bruising ..
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\r\nSteelPatrick:: that is cold
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\r\nsteelmann58:: I have to believe what Jim was saying they have a player targeted for day 2
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\r\njimwexell:: Haynes would be a restricted free agent. They'd have the chance to match any offer or take the fifth-rounder. The only guy who will get a mid-level tender is probably Reed.
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\r\nSteelerHawg:: thx Wex - I was thinking the same. That cut's gonna hurt when it happens, tho...
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\r\nSteelPatrick:: IS Matt Jones THE guy the Steelers want?
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: I hope not
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\r\nCSyry:: could aaron smith take another pay cut
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\r\nFromPittsburghWithLove:: I'd rather get Marshall
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: smith doesn't take pay cuts, they turn his base into bonus and push the hit back
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\r\njimwexell:: Patrick, keep your eye on Nehemiah Broughton of the Citadel. He played FB in the Senior Bowl but is a 250-pound tailback. Fifth round.
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\r\nSteelerHawg:: only Bettis & Bruener have taken actual 'cuts', IIRC
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\r\nSteelPatrick:: Did Belicheck really say that Aaron Smith is THE best DE in NFL and that Farrior is greater than Ray Ray??
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\r\nFromPittsburghWithLove:: Jonathan Jackson outta Oklahoma will be a steal, kid is an athlete
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\r\nSteelPatrick:: Thanks Jim. Sounds like a mouthful
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\r\nTyranid:: Belicheck always heaps the praise onto the opponents he faces.. its like salt in the wound..
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\r\nSteelPatrick:: Citadel. Sounds like a bank
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: or a fort
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\r\njimwexell:: Matt Jones was interviewed by the Steelers at the Senior Bowl,l second day,l but I wasn't real impressed with his performance. Mid rounder.
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\r\nsteelmann58:: Jim that the guy you have liked before
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\r\njimwexell:: Yes, that was the guy I* liked. And yes I like Dustin Fox. Physical. In the game I watched he looked fast enough.
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\r\njimwexell:: I really like Sproles, but the Steelers already have their change-up speed ball.
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\r\nSteelPatrick:: How about Ohio State K Ted...err Mike Nugent
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: maybe if they lose Reed
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\r\nsteelmann58:: we need a cb who can cover
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\r\nSteelerHawg:: Nugent is better than Kaeding, will he go early 3rd? If so, we should say no
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\r\nibleedBLACKandGOLD81:: we need a shutdown corner for sure
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: I see Nugent going that early
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\r\nsteelmann58:: I think Matt Roth would be ok too 
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: Supply is way bigger than demand on RBs
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\r\nDaleLolley:: There are a ton of tweeners in this draft
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\r\nDaleLolley:: There's only one AJax, thank god
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\r\nsteelmann58:: as long as they don't reach for another Jackson
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\r\nGFYAC:: yeah lots of Tweeners...and we don't need a starter or #1 back-up...just a developmental guy better than Alonzo...that can't be hard to find even in round 4 or 5
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\r\nheinzfield:: I like Matt Roth also.
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: I have been praising Roth since preseason
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\r\nsteelmann58:: I think day 2 draft will be very important to the Steelers 
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\r\nDaleLolley:: They wouldn't know what to do with Roth. He'd be another Vrabel.
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\r\nGFYAC:: They have to do better on day 2
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\r\nsteelmann58:: I think Roper will be on the 53 next year
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\r\nfury1:: NEED TO DO BETTER THAN LAST YEAR
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: I believe that Dale since I am not sure if he would play OLB or beef up to play DE
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\r\nheinzfield:: Chip he is a solid player...I coach at the NAIA college level and we play the 3-4...form what I have seen he can play in our scheme(Steelers)
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\r\nGFYAC:: we only have 1 guy left from last year...and he was only on the practice squad
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\r\nsteelmann58:: please last year they looked lost
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\r\nsteelmann58:: Taylor
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: Heinz, where do you coach?
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: hi #1
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\r\nNumberOneSteelerFan:: hi chip
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\r\nsteelmann58:: dale seen they added Burr again man he hugh to bad grimm can't help him out
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\r\nheinzfield:: I coach in North Dakota. Jamestown College...
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\r\nDaleLolley:: I liked Taylor's motor, but he didn't always seem to be going in the right direction. Always getting bitched at by Mitch
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: Oh
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\r\nGFYAC:: Steelers have to address their Back-up OT/G position...will they draft them or sign them from FA
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\r\nDaleLolley:: Burr's fodder. Couldn't cut it before and he didn't get any faster after that knee\r\ninjury
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ChipTheSteelerFan:: there was always a chance that I heard of it, but nope
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\r\nsteelmann58:: lol maybe Taylor can get his act together
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\r\nDaleLolley:: Taylor has great size. He looks the part
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\r\nsteelmann58:: knowing the Steelers they will sign a vet tackle
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\r\nDaleLolley:: Very active hands on the pass rush, but doesn't always go anywhere
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\r\nGFYAC:: he was a playmaker in college too wasn't he..meaning Taylor
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: Dale, Shawn praises Jim Jones, what is your opinion of him. I think if he is as good as Shawn says he is, he would at least be dressing for a team on Sunday
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\r\nsteelmann58:: ok guys will The Steelers Look at Trading Maddox
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\r\nGFYAC:: are you kidding?
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: its possible
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: trade Tommy for a 3rd and sign a vet backup (Fiedler?) or just use Charlie
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\r\nGFYAC:: then we would have another hole to fill
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\r\nDaleLolley:: Jones dressing came down to numbers. I like Jones as a backup. Don't know that I want to count on him as a starter. But that's why they'll bring in a vet swing guy. Trading Maddox is possible, though not likely. Batch would come back for the minimum.
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\r\nDaleLolley:: Or close to it.
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\r\nheinzfield:: Maddox stays...You need 2 solid QB's at this level to be good. I am not saying Maddox is great, but he can win games for a short periods of time 3-4 game stretches
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: This is why the Pats are better. They traded Bledsoe for picks. They dumped Milloy to sign Harrison. 
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\r\nGFYAC:: right on
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\r\nDaleLolley:: But if he says he doesn't want to be here. They don't want guys who don't want to be a part of this.
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\r\nGFYAC:: OK...they got a #1 and more for Bledsoe
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\r\nDaleLolley:: Be lucky to get a 5 for Maddox
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: exactly dale
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\r\nsteelmann58:: I agree get players who want to be here
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\r\nGFYAC:: also Maddox is not making a whole lot compared to other back-ups
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: a 5? I guess Washington won't be fishing again this year
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\r\nGFYAC:: Bledsoe was eating cap
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\r\nsteelmann58:: so what way is the bus leaning
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: but they still traded him
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\r\nfury1:: ANY NEWS ON CONTRACT EXTENSIONS - OR IS IT TO EARLY ?
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: Brady was making nothing so Bledsoe's contract balanced out
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\r\nheinzfield:: If I am a betting man, Bettis retires
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\r\nDaleLolley:: Maddox will be 33. I don't think he's going anywhere. No news on extensions yet. Everybody's in Hawaii.
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\r\nsteelmann58:: dale bettis retires?
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\r\nBlitzburghD:: Hey Chip
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\r\nDaleLolley:: I don't think so. Won't want to share the Hall of Fame stage with Emmitt.
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: how are you tonight blitz?
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\r\nDaleLolley:: Just kidding
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\r\nGFYAC:: lol
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\r\nBlitzburghD:: I'm good, man... you?
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: Dale, that is funny since I used that as an excuse for Bettis not being a first ballot HOFer if he retires with Emmitt
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\r\nheinzfield:: OK guys, other tweener DE's you have liked
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\r\nGFYAC:: Dale..what is your opinion of Brandon Browner
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: I am talking Steeler football, so I am happy blitz
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\r\nBlitzburghD:: Amen
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: plus the wife can't give me a hard time since she and the kid are watching the OC
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\r\nsteelmann58:: matt roth
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\r\nsteelmann58:: but I also like a true dt like luis castillo
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\r\nheinzfield:: I agree on Roth, I hope I am right on him 
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\r\nDaleLolley:: He's a first-time HOFer regardless of who else is on the list. I haven't seen enough of Browner yet. Just bits and pieces. But he's got great size. I like Tuck.
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\r\nsteelmann58:: also Dave Pollack
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\r\nBlitzburghD:: So who's this year's Ben, Chip... are you onto any one prospect yet?
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\r\nsteelmann58:: Jimmy verdon
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: no, not yet
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\r\nheinzfield:: Pollack will not be around, but I agree, he is good...
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\r\nsteelmann58:: guys what do you think if we draft Chris Canty in the 3rd
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\r\nGFYAC:: Notre Dame...yeah...Tuck could be a terrific Tweener
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\r\nDaleLolley:: Canty's had injury probs - no?
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: Ben was easy after watching him in college then listening to the experts fall in love with Rivers
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: hi wex
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\r\nDaleLolley:: What's up Wex
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\r\njimwexell:: Hey Guys
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\r\nBlitzburghD:: Me either... though you could guess my greatest position of need
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\r\nDaleLolley:: I started early
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\r\nsteelblitzkrieg:: I'm red
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\r\nBlitzburghD:: Hey Wex
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\r\nsteelblitzkrieg:: Dammit Blitz
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\r\nheinzfield:: hey wex
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\r\njimwexell:: Blitz, dale, Chip, blitzkrieg, heinz -- what's up fellas?
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\r\nsteelblitzkrieg:: I'm green
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\r\nGFYAC:: Where do you think Rian Wallace will fall
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\r\nGFYAC:: Could the Steelers Steel him in round 3
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\r\nheinzfield:: Just starting to sort through the off season...
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: just talking steeler football and being happy
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\r\njimwexell:: I haven't seen him play. I tried to avoid Temple this year.
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\r\nsteelmann58:: hi Jim
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steelblitzkrieg:: Much better, hey Jim.
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\r\nDaleLolley:: Newly married Hawg joined us. Wow. How'd you slip away, Hawg?
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\r\nSteelCitySports:: Hello everyone
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heinzfield:: I haven't seen enough of Wallace to pass judgment
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ChipTheSteelerFan:: I read Browner is HOPING to run a 4.5. I think that is bad when a CB is hoping to run a 4.5
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\r\nBlitzburghD:: Congrats, Hawg
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\r\nSteelerHawg:: i've been married 1.5 years now .... I think she's sick of me
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\r\nsteelmann58:: I think that why Canty will fall but worth a 3rd rounder
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\r\njimwexell:: steelman, everyone else. I know I won't be -- Hawg, congratulations! -- but I know I won't be able to keep up, so pardon my plodding. I'll try to answer all the questions you may have.
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\r\nsteelblitzkrieg:: Hawg married? Wow, congrats.
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\r\nDaleLolley:: I thought you just got married Hawg
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\r\nBlitzburghD:: Hey Joe, Dale... missed you cats on the way in the door
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\r\nGFYAC:: Wallace was a playmaker who can play both ILB-OLB
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: Apple just got married
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\r\nGFYAC:: OCngrats Apple
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\r\nSteelerHawg:: indeed, Apple it was (I couldn't remember myself)
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\r\nheinzfield:: GFYAC...What are Wallaes measurable??
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DaleLolley:: Sorry Hawg. That's why Apple's not here.
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\r\nsteelblitzkrieg:: No more girlapple? Bossapple now!
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\r\nDaleLolley:: He's in bed right now
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\r\nBlitzburghD:: Congrats anyway, Hawg... just for being you
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\r\nGFYAC:: 6'4 240
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\r\nsteelmann58:: Jim who was the reporter that stole your credit I remember talking about this on the other web site 
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\r\nSteelerHawg:: thanx Double D! 
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\r\nGFYAC:: runs in the neighborhood of 4.7...4.75
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\r\njimwexell:: GFYAC, it sounds like you know a little about Wallace. What can you tell us?
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\r\nDaleLolley:: Wallace could go inside or out. Kind of like Chad Brown
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\r\nheinzfield:: GFYAC...Did he play in any of the post season all star games..I was busy recruiting so I didn't see those games
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\r\nsteelmann58:: I think two players who have injury problems can be steals 
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\r\njimwexell:: Yes, congrats on being Hawg!
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\r\nDaleLolley:: But you have to wonder about Temple guys. All that losing &
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\r\nsteelmann58:: Cnaty in the 3rd
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\r\nsteelmann58:: Canty
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\r\nSteelerHawg:: thx wex .... it's more of a curse, really
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\r\nSteelerHawg:: 
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\r\nsteelmann58:: and Munoz around round 4
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\r\nHarryAWay:: Hey guys.
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\r\nGFYAC:: Nkwenti not withstanding
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: but this was Cory Dillon's first winning season. He did alright after leaving Cincy
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\r\nfury1:: WE HAVE NOT DRAFTED A GOOD PLAYER FROM TEMPLE YET
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\r\njimwexell:: Jerry D didn't necessarily steal my credit, but he didn't give me none. No biggie. I really shouldn't be whining about it.
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\r\nDaleLolley:: Boy, we've got a crew in here
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\r\nSteelCitySports:: \"Hawg\" is the man !
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\r\nGFYAC:: here is a skinny written about Wallace:
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\r\nheinzfield:: Munoz is soft IMO, I don't like him, but I respect your opinion Steelman
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\r\nSteelerHawg:: what's the good word on Randy Moss wanting to come to Steel town - more Raven fan whining?
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: hi Harry
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\r\nsteelmann58:: another Dot Atiyyah Ellison
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\r\nDaleLolley:: Please, no Randy Moss stuff. Crash/Trap has beaten that to death
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\r\nHarryAWay:: So, who are the guys that are free agents that the Steelers liked coming out of college?
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\r\njimwexell:: steelmann, I don't know about Munoz. He's had pretty serious and steady knee problems.
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\r\nGFYAC:: A natural Football player that consistently makes positive things happen
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\r\nsteelblitzkrieg:: Moss? No mas?
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: dale and wex, since this upcoming season is ARE's contract year, has there been any mention of extending him?
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\r\nSteelChowder:: I thought they liked Stockar McDougal.
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: all the talk is about Hines and Plax
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\r\nsteelmann58:: hey Harry
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SteelerHawg:: will we even be a playa in FA - after reading Wex's blog today, sounds like we might need to cut everyone to get under the cap!!
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\r\nDaleLolley:: I don't think they can afford to extend ARE at this point
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\r\nGFYAC:: Wallace stands out on film because of his propensity to be around the action
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\r\njimwexell:: Hawg, I haven't even bothered thinking about Moss in Pittsburgh. There is no chance. None.
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\r\nGFYAC:: Definitely has the ability to play in an array of systems in the NFL
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\r\nheinzfield:: GFYAC...If you are around the ball a lot you can play the game...obviously...
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\r\nBlitzburghD:: Let Mark Clayton be ARE insurance
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\r\nDaleLolley:: That's what I said Wex. They wouldn't have drafted him
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\r\nSteelPatrick:: (some generic wrestling them song plays) Heading down to the chat room. From the Dirty South at 6'3 and 350 lbs of Steel City Love. Steeeel Pedro...oops...I mean Patrick. 
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\r\njimwexell:: Dale, is Crash Trap? I was wondering about that. I do remember Trap really hating Madden though.
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: too bad Dale. They could have probably gotten a good deal on ARE like they did with Hines
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\r\nSteelPatrick:: thanks you thank you
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\r\nsteelmann58:: Wex who was the reporter is he still writing
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\r\nDaleLolley:: That was Dirt's theory, Jim
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\r\nSouthernStiller:: Hello everyone. Any news on what the FO is going to offer Plax?
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\r\njimwexell:: Harry, I'd need a list of those free agents in front of me. I can't think of any right now. I like to go back through the old Answer Man columns for UFA info.
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\r\nsteelmann58:: fed 15 is the date for franchise a player
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jimwexell:: I haven' t heard any mention of extending ARE. 
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\r\nDaleLolley:: Philly franchised Simon today
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: thanks dale and wex
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\r\nsteelmann58:: the Steelers will probably look for a vet Ot at the min
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\r\nSteelerHawg:: I'd imagine Hines is the only 1-yr left guy to get any love this year, no?
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\r\nCSyry:: Hampton, perhaps?
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\r\nheinzfield:: Hines will get his extension...
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\r\njimwexell:: Blitz, my hunch is that Mark Clayton will be an Eagle. Bye bye Freddie, Pinky.
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\r\nsteelmann58:: no question Hines gets the cash he deserves
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\r\nGFYAC:: Too much money for Porter
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\r\nGFYAC:: if they would spend that much they might as well franchise Plax
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\r\nBlitzburghD:: Sign David Givens
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: good point hawg
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\r\noregonmooch:: when do the steelers have to tag a player a franchise player?
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\r\nDaleLolley:: I hate Claiborne
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\r\nSteelerHawg:: Givens will get the mid tender if they can't work something out sooner, IMO.
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\r\nSteelPatrick:: that is the question everyone is asking
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\r\nheinzfield:: David Givens is another viable option
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\r\nSteelerHawg:: no way we should give up a 1st for him
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\r\nBlitzburghD:: He'd be perfect opposite Ward
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\r\nDaleLolley:: Houshmandzadeh is slow and injury prone.
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\r\nsteelblitzkrieg:: Pat Tillman...no way!!!
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\r\nHarryAWay:: The question I'll ask is if you think he can do a better job than Foote?
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: no, Tillman shouldn't be in the HOF
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\r\nsteelmann58:: steelers need a speed guy
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\r\nCSyry:: what about all the talk about bubba franks 
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\r\nSteelChowder:: For the receiver position - - there's no way Mays will be the third receiver, right? I mean, we'll do something, right?
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\r\nGFYAC:: Green Bay will outbid the Steelers for him
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\r\nSteelerHawg:: I like the GA boys , Brown over Gibson - think one (or both) be available in the 2nd?
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\r\nDaleLolley:: Mays can't be No. 3. Can't
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\r\nSteelPatrick:: If he were to go in, he wouldn't go as a player but as a symbol.
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\r\nheinzfield:: Claiborne is not an upgrade over Foote
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\r\nGFYAC:: Mays will be gone...Cobb will hopefully be healthy
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\r\nDaleLolley:: I like Cobb a lot.
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\r\nHarryAWay:: I'm ok with the guy being Trotter or Hartwell but Claiborne seems like he would be most affordable. Claiborne not better than Foote? HAHA! What a laugh.
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\r\nsteelmann58:: I don't think franks a fit here
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\r\nSteelChowder:: If Plax goes and we don't sign a FA, what round would you expect us to take a WR in?
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\r\nheinzfield:: Will Cobb bounce back form injury to be ready by mini camp?
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\r\nSteelPatrick:: Zamir \"Corn\" Cobb ??
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\r\nCSyry:: mike williams, perhaps?
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\r\nBlitzburghD:: Anyone like Charles Lee on the cheap?
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\r\nDaleLolley:: Cobb is a smooth operator
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\r\njimwexell:: SouthernStiller, I believe Bouchette was right when he said they'd make a record offer, so I assume it will be about $9.5M bonus. My source who told me Art II wanted to franchise Plax now says it was Colbert who wanted to do that. I said, 'you told me Art II' two weeks ago. He said: No I didn't. Sorry.
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\r\nGFYAC:: Mike Williams will not see pick 30
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\r\nsteelmann58:: cobb a possion guy who they need
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\r\nSteelerHawg:: whoa ... looks like I'm late to the dance - franchise Plax? is that a possibility now?
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\r\nHarryAWay:: If they make Plax a record offer before they do something with Hines I think that's not kosher.
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\r\nDaleLolley:: Cobb is sneaky getting open across the middle. He's Bobby Shaw with balls.
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\r\nGFYAC:: right but Ward cannot beat the double team...is ARE good enough?
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\r\nSouthernStiller:: Thanks Wex. That sounds like they are going after him pretty hard, what does that mean for Ward's number.
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\r\nsteelmann58:: I think if they draft miller and add Bradford they will be fine
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\r\njimwexell:: We ought to introduce Crash to Mill and then they can call Madden and have a grand ol time hating the world.
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\r\nBlitzburghD:: Great line, Dale
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\r\nGFYAC:: Miller the CB right
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\r\nCSyry:: bottom line, is plaxico a steeler next year?
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\r\nGFYAC:: great player
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\r\nsteelmann58:: I liked cobb in college 
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\r\nSteelPatrick:: how mocuh cap space do we have???
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\r\nsteelmann58:: he will make the 53 man also
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\r\nsteelblitzkrieg:: Blitz doesn't like guy's without balls...Bell?
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\r\nheinzfield:: Marlin Jackson ahs dropped off in the last 2 years
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\r\nGFYAC:: Can't imagine he is a \"stellers\" type guy
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\r\nHarryAWay:: That's why Bell's not high on my favorites.
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\r\nsteelmann58:: I don't see them going defense in round 1
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\r\nSteelPatrick:: I meant much. I type too fast.
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\r\nCSyry:: the browner kid intrigues me
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\r\nfury1:: I LIKE A WR FROM NORTHERN COLORADO - VINCENT JACKSON
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\r\nsteelmann58:: hey all bets are off if Brown is there at 30
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\r\nSteelerHawg:: jackson's a NFL FS, I believe ... no way we should take one in the 1st, IMO
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\r\nTyranid:: I just hate seeing us lose both bell and burress with no compensation, is franchising burress with the interest of trading him even a possibility?
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\r\nGFYAC:: Love the Browner kid...but he will move up fast
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\r\nGFYAC:: not many Sophomores who are 6'4 220
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\r\nSteelChowder:: isn't it a pipe dream to believe Brown will be there at 30?
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\r\nGFYAC:: that can play Corner
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\r\nsteelblitzkrieg:: Jim/Dale What are the odds we take Heath Miller, if he drops, or Alex Smith in the 1st?
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\r\nDaleLolley:: Scott Shieds was 6-4 220.
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\r\nheinzfield:: Carlos Rogers can play...I liked him in the Sugar Bowl...
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\r\nBlitzburghD:: To each his own, Harry... I just think there is more to it
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\r\nsteelmann58:: miller would be my choice
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\r\nDaleLolley:: I like both of those TEs. But they are TEs.
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\r\njimwexell:: Harry, Claiborne is a figment of my imagination. I have heard nothing about who they like. Like I wrote, they're all in Hawaii. As for Foote, I remember a couple of scouts in preseason betting on the goal line drill. Then one said, Oh, no, Foote's playing. I forgot. Can we cancel that bet? I walked over and they shut up. But I thought Foote played well. Obviously you can win with him.
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: Scott Shields was a nice guy
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\r\nsteelmann58:: smith in round 2 or 3
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\r\nHarryAWay:: I'll be waiting for your story on those free agents that the Steelers have had interest on in the past Wex.
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\r\nGFYAC:: Browner can develop into a Great CB...and they have at least 1 year before they HAVE to start him
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\r\nsteelmann58:: dale you don't like te in round 1
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\r\nTyranid:: is the interest in barnes real on the part of the steelers or is that just a smokescreen?
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\r\nDaleLolley:: Not particularly
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\r\nCSyry:: does moss' availability and jerry porter's free agency knock down burress' value to a reasonable level the steelers can afford to pay for him
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\r\nsteelmann58:: ok cool
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\r\nBlitzburghD:: You have to work harder for those wins, Wex... that's my beef
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\r\njimwexell:: They have to pay Ward more than Burress because of the 4 to 0 Pro Bowls. Like it or not, that's how the Steelers operate. Pro Bowls may be political, but they mean a lot to brass.
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\r\nsteelmann58:: if they go wr Williamson from S car is my choice
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\r\nDaleLolley:: Man, this is the biggest chat yet
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\r\nSteelChowder:: I'm with you steelman - - although that UAB kid is interesting too.
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\r\nSteelerHawg:: we had some good ones going draft w/e last year
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\r\nheinzfield:: DE in round 1
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\r\nsteelmann58:: Ricardo will be opposite deshea
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\r\nSteelerHawg:: chats, that is
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\r\nGFYAC:: CB round 1
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\r\nCSyry:: I say corner or wide receiver in round 1
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: dale, during the draft last year, the chat room was maxed out and\r\npeople couldn't log on
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\r\njimwexell:: I doubt Plax is a Steeler next year because of what they'll have to pay Ward.
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\r\nSteelPatrick:: I think the RFAs who are gone are Hope, Foote, and Haynes. Reed, Keisel and Mays are here to stay.
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\r\nDaleLolley:: That's why I couldn't get in, I guess
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\r\nBlitzburghD:: Ok, so who is with me on Bubba-freaking-Franks
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\r\nsteelblitzkrieg:: Allot of talk lately about Rooney only interested in fielding a team that puts people in the seats, and not really trying to win the SB. any comments?
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\r\nsteelmann58:: I agree steel chowder he a good choice also as well as roby either in 2 or 3
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\r\nTyranid:: I like Franks.. what is the price tag on a solid te like him in free agency?
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\r\nCSyry:: steelers don't throw to the tight end, so I can't see it happening, blitz
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\r\njimwexell:: I think Marlin Jackson is too physical to adapt to the new non-contact rules. I think CBs may not be as valuable as they were last year. I think pass-rushers are more important now. That said, I love Carlos Rodgers.
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\r\nBlitzburghD:: That's a myth... get him Dale
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\r\nibleedBLACKandGOLD81:: dale/jim - what is plax's salary next year if they put the franchise or transition tag on him?
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\r\nsteelmann58:: Jim will they franchise him and trade him
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\r\nDaleLolley:: They want to win a Super Bowl. Don't get me started on the don't throw to the TE crap. Franks is OK, but you may have to overpay.
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\r\nGFYAC:: Rogers, Miller (CB) or Browner in round 1B
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\r\nsteelblitzkrieg:: CS, We did when Neil was here, ever since we haven't had a quality QB to throw it to the TE?
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\r\nheinzfield:: Wex, I stated the same thing about Rogers a few posts ago....He can play, period
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\r\nsteelmann58:: I agree Franks is overrated 
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\r\nsteelblitzkrieg:: SCS...Ouch my eyes are burning.
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\r\nSteelCitySports:: Sorry BLITZ :( wrong button
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\r\nSteelerHawg:: sbk - it's better than pink!
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\r\nCSyry:: I see it the other way steelblitz
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\r\nTyranid:: overrated? It's hard to find pass catching tightends who can actually block..
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: WOW. Great job joe (at changing from yellow LOL) that will be a lot of people.
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\r\nSteelChowder:: any chances the Steelers trade up this year in round one?
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\r\nCSyry:: bruener was good enough, but we tomczak, miller, kordell, etc
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: I hope we do max out the chat room on draft day again
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\r\nsteelmann58:: I think the opposite steel might happen
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\r\noregonmooch:: any chance they'll let plex go& go after porter?
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\r\nHarryAWay:: I'll be in New York at the Draft again this year.
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\r\nDaleLolley:: I don't think they'll trade up since they have no great need. Stay at home and let a good player fall
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\r\nsteelblitzkrieg:: I had red,, then I noticed BD had it first, then I went green and someone took it...I'm man enough.
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\r\nheinzfield:: I believe Ernest Shazor is a better prospect than Marlin Jackson...
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\r\nBlitzburghD:: I think he's been underutilized in GB
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\r\nTyranid:: ooh fun fun.. too bad its not at MSG
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\r\nCSyry:: shazor is great against the run, so-so against the pass. he might move to lb.
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\r\nHarryAWay:: Would the Steelers consider Shazor as a fast linebacker like they did Taylor last year?
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\r\njimwexell:: Tyranid, I doubt they'll trade Burress via franchise-and-trade. The NFLPA is trying to outlaw that maneuver and the Rooneys have never been\r\nmavericks with the rules. As far as compensation, they will have the 8-9M Plax didn't take and they will sign someone else. As for Heath Miller, he fits a position of need and makes up for the loss of Plax in some ways. If they draft a WR first, he'd sit behind ARE. I don't know if you could say that about Miller and Tuman.
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\r\nsteelmann58:: they not going to waste big money on franks
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: harry, I read the draft won't be at MSG
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\r\nSteelChowder:: we have a lot of teams around us that like to move - - Philly seems to always trade up -- NE moves a lot too
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\r\nBlitzburghD:: Anyone who can make the TE a weapon again in Pittsburgh is worth the coin. Look what they paid Bruener...
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\r\nCSyry:: I'm sorry, I'm just not comfortable with randle el starting
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\r\nheinzfield:: I view Shazor as a fast OLB
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\r\nHarryAWay:: Last I had read Browner is running just under 4.5 in preparation for the Combine.
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\r\nCSyry:: I wouldn't have a problem with that, chowder
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\r\nSteelCitySports:: EVERYONE--- LET JIM AND DALE CATCH UP 
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\r\nGFYAC:: If that is true then browner will be a top 15 pick
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\r\nTyranid:: smoot nixed a 8 figure deal right?
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\r\nDaleLolley:: Chevy Troutman at TE
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\r\n34D:: I thought Cobb looked good in camp last year, but I read he wasn't a speed guy. does anyone know his 40's time? Can't he replace Burress
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\r\nsteelmann58:: i asked this on the messageborad but if the steelers do go hard after 1 Fa who do you think it is
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\r\nBlitzburghD:: Love Miller, not sold on Smith, but have always liked the big guy from Green Bay'
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\r\nHarryAWay:: Wine taste on a beer budget guys. You can add three free agents for the price of Porter or Smoot.
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: cobb will replace ARE in the slot
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\r\nGFYAC:: I think they will be ok with ARE as the starter...as long as they get someone that can get upfield and outside when they go 3-wide
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\r\nfury1:: TOO MUCH FOR ANYONE, BUT WHAT THE HECK
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\r\nDaleLolley:: Cobb isn't super fast, but he's quick in abd out of cuts
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\r\njimwexell:: Tryanid, I can't believe Barnes will fall to 30. He's a stud. But the Steelers did meet with Adam Terry the first day of the senior bowl. It appears they have interest in a tackle, and it makes sense. As for Williamson, I loved his attitude at the skills showcase. That kid will be top 15 after he scorches the combine track.
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\r\nCSyry:: blitz, what about becht if they can't get franks
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\r\nheinzfield:: Chevy Troutman will(would)be a helluva TE. IS THERE LEGIT INTEREST????
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\r\nSteelChowder:: if Troutman doesn't have a B-Ball future, he should consider it
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\r\nHarryAWay:: Be back in a couple minutes. I'm at work between things.
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\r\nGFYAC:: I can't believe that the STeelers will take an OT in round 1
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\r\nsteelmann58:: damm bad news I was hoping Williamson would be there
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\r\nDaleLolley:: I've been on the Troutman TE bandwagon for three years. I mentioned it to Colbert a couple of years ago and he nodded in agreement
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\r\nsteelmann58:: Jim what about Britt
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\r\nBlitzburghD:: I think Becht is an upgrade, but a notch below Franks
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\r\nCSyry:: wex, this may be a tough question to answer, who are your top three possibilities at number 30 as of right now
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: wow, I finally got caught up
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\r\nGFYAC:: they can't spend their money on a TE
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\r\nheinzfield:: Becht is a decent option Steelman...
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\r\nTyranid:: he might be cheap.. although he wants catches.. we would have to convince him we'd throw to him
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\r\nsteelblitzkrieg:: Troutman? A fish in the used to be three rivers?
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\r\nSteelChowder:: the fish that saved Pittsburgh!
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\r\nGFYAC:: only if they can release Riemersma and bring the TE at less the difference then it makes no sense to bring in Becht
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\r\nDaleLolley:: If the TE gets open, he'll get the ball
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\r\nDaleLolley:: Riemersma is gone
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\r\nBlitzburghD:: Tight ends are cheap.
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\r\nBlitzburghD:: Its a cheap upgrade
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\r\nGFYAC:: not a big enough upgrade
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\r\nBlitzburghD:: And Big Ben will throw to a good TE... he found he bums we have now
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\r\nGFYAC:: if they are going to upgrade the TE position the go big...draft a kind in round 1...if not we are fine with Tuman
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\r\nSteelChowder:: agree
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\r\nTyranid:: isn't that okobi's job?
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\r\njimwexell:: Bubba Freakin Franks! --- I don't buy the Rooney filling the seats theory. He wants to win. His grandpa won. His dad won. He'll want to win badly. -- Chowder's bad news. Please, forget about him. I like him as a player, but it won't happen here. You know how they feel. --- Roby looks like a third-rounder, he and Brandon Jones of Okla. -- Steelers will throw to the TE if he gets open. Bruener had his most catches as a rook, then Kordell came, then Bruener slowed down, now they have very slow TEs. The beauty of a first-round TE is you get the blocking and the threat in one package. Right now, they need four to cover all bases. -- The Franchise tag on Plax would be 7.7 M.
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\r\nFromPittsburghWithLove:: Aside from Miller, who's the better blocking tight end, Smith or Everett?
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\r\nBlitzburghD:: Breathe, Wex, breathe
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: I think this is a big question that will eventually be answered: Will Chad Scott take a paycut and will he be willing to play FS. I think he would be a big upgrade over Hope.
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\r\nFromPittsburghWithLove:: I'd rather see Ike play FS than chad
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: Ike is too dumb
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\r\nBlitzburghD:: Scott can't carry Hope's jock
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\r\nsteelblitzkrieg:: Smith is more of a receiving TE, don't know enough about Everett?
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\r\nsteelmann58:: I like miller someone to help out ben
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\r\nBlitzburghD:: Ike is dumb
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: come on blitz. Hope is not the ballhawk we need
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\r\nBlitzburghD:: You're 1-fer-2 Chip
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\r\nDaleLolley:: I like Everett. There's a guy nobody's talking about
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\r\nibleedBLACKandGOLD81:: Ike isn't a good enough tackler to play FS...we need a ball hawk
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: 500 isn't bad
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\r\nFromPittsburghWithLove:: Ya i like Everett too, although he's a little bit more of an athlete than a football player
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\r\nBlitzburghD:: First year starting... give the kid a break
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: I would make the playoffs in the NFC
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\r\nTyranid:: Are the steelers considering brodney poole or shazor as an upgrade to hope? Are we at risk of losing any of our RFAs?
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\r\nSteelerHawg:: according to meatloaf, you should aim for .6666667
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\r\nibleedBLACKandGOLD81:: I'd like to see us drop chad scott and pick up ty law to play FS
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\r\nheinzfield:: Chris Hope will be much better in his second year of starting...I thought h was decent this year...Not an easy position to master in the 3-4
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\r\nfury1:: HOW ABOUT TE JOEL DREESSEN FROM COLORADO STATE
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\r\nBlitzburghD:: .500 is great if you're Cleveland
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\r\nCSyry:: i'm surprised nobody's brought this up, but wex/dale, do you feel bettis will be back next year
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\r\nTyranid:: Everett's been hurt right?
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\r\nGFYAC:: why are we trying to upgrade Hope??? he has started 1 year and did pretty well thank you very much
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\r\nfury1:: CAN CATCH AND BLOCK - CAN PLAY RIGHT NOW
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\r\nDaleLolley:: I think Bettis will be back for one more shot. Especially since the SB is in Detroit
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: because hope is an UFA after this year
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\r\nFromPittsburghWithLove:: The only image I have of Hope right now is being stiffed armed by C Mart
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\r\nsteelmann58:: I think it will be miller 
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\r\nsteelblitzkrieg:: Hope was a SS, first year starting and now a FS, give him some more time.
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\r\nCSyry:: dammit, no tight end in round 1. either receiver or corner
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\r\nsteelmann58:: I think we give hope another full year
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: That is the problem. He is a SS trying to play FS
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\r\nDaleLolley:: CMart is a hall of famer. There's no dishonor there.
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\r\nGFYAC:: we should consider extending Hope...not replacing him...we can likely get him reasonably now
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\r\nBlitzburghD:: I guess you missed the Miami game
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: who?
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\r\nFromPittsburghWithLove:: Cmart IS a hall of famer, but for a tackling guru, he should have made that tackle
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\r\nWookie:: I agree with Dale on Bettis.
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\r\nCSyry:: hope was solid, but not spectacular
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\r\nTyranid:: Hope makes a lot of boneheaded reads in space.. he seems to completely get lost on the big plays
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\r\nBlitzburghD:: Why do you like Everett, Dale
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: I agree hope was solid not spectacular
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\r\nCSyry:: I'd give him another year
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: me too
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\r\nsteelmann58:: JIM I was wondering what Reporter was that in today Blog
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\r\nibleedBLACKandGOLD81:: I'd be cool with hope having another year
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: but Chad should be ready to take over
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\r\nCSyry:: they had the no. 1 defense, he didn't do too much wrong
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\r\nSteelPatrick:: one question at a time ppl
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\r\nsteelblitzkrieg:: Steelman....DiPoala(SP?)
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\r\njimwexell:: With Colbert, the Steelers are always a threat to trade up, down, around -- I like Colbert's drafts, particularly the first days. -- Ernest Shazor looked silly trying to tackle Vince Young. I thought Shazor played poorly the only time I watched him. No offense. -- Hawg, I don't know if either Georgia boy will last to the second. I think Reggie Brown is a consideration at 30 -- I don't want to replace Kimo. I think he's in great shape, has a great attitude and is productive. They also have fine backups. I don't see them drafting a Dlineman early. -- mooch, the Steelers have interest in Porter. They've always liked him. Obviously, it's a matter of money. Fury, I like kay Jay Harris, too. A lot. but he did fumble twice against FSU and is 25 or 26. But I do like him. I think he'll be a third- or fourth-=round steal. Heck,l I'
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\r\njimwexell:: I'm using all my weekend stuff. Promise me you guys won';t read my weekend blog of Sr bowl analysis because I'm using it all here.
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\r\nsteelmann58:: well if Roby there in round 3 and we have not taken a wr 
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: Wex, you and I are about the only ones on Kimo's side
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\r\nibleedBLACKandGOLD81:: haha I won't
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\r\nCSyry:: next year, they should worry about getting kimo's replacement
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\r\nGFYAC:: you write a blog Jim??? :-)
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\r\nibleedBLACKandGOLD81:: if chris henry is available second round we should maybe get him
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\r\nibleedBLACKandGOLD81:: but there's another bad attitude wr
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\r\nCSyry:: he's got character issues, but has immense talent
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\r\nsteelblitzkrieg:: Kimo is old, but after last years big numbers did they focus on him, which allowed smith to take over his stats?
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\r\nTyranid:: Are there any reports regarding Hampton.. has he \"fully\" recovered?
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\r\nsteelmann58:: if they don't draft Channing forget henry
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\r\nFromPittsburghWithLove:: Any chance Chris Hoke could make a bid for Kimo's job?
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\r\nCSyry:: will oliver ross return as either a starter or backup to starks
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\r\nSteelPatrick:: I wonder why Cowher picked Kendall Gammon as his Pro Bowl Need player??
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\r\nBlitzburghD:: Whoa... add me to the KvO bandwagon
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: because he is an idiot
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: your added
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\r\nSteelPatrick:: Does Cowher hate Scheck that much??
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\r\nDaleLolley:: Forget about Henry. I like Everett's athletic ability. Played for a big-time program.
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: Cowher should have taken Kreider
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\r\nsteelblitzkrieg:: Steelpatrick...No natural long snappers...ex steeler.
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\r\nibleedBLACKandGOLD81:: I think there's a good chance this is kimo's last year...we can't depend on a rookie to take over we need to get his replacement now if he's going to be a rookie this year
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\r\nsteelmann58:: I like Kimo allot but think we need to try an find another smith
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\r\nSteelPatrick:: Cowher should taken KImo
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\r\nBlitzburghD:: Thank you
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\r\nSteelPatrick:: Then the Steelers would have 3 Pro Bowl DL.
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: kirsche and Hoke can replace Kimo in 2006
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\r\nPGPROUD:: Good point Dale, but the Steelers have 0 Miami players. There not all bad attitudes. What gives?
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\r\nCSyry:: that'd be nice for a change
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\r\nsteelblitzkrieg:: Cowher never takes his own, it would look bad, he takes who is most deserving or most needed.
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\r\nsteelmann58:: chip they feel hoke is a NT not a de
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\r\nDaleLolley:: They need to start drafting Miami players. One every year.
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\r\nBlitzburghD:: I haven't seen enough of him to buy in, Dale
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\r\nSteelPatrick:: Isn't Schneck a natural LS Blitzkrieg?? or is Gammon a UFA and Cowher is interested?
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\r\nHarryAWay:: Shazor's going to look like a fool chasing a guy with 4.3 speed. How many guys look like a fool chasing Michael Vick?
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: people thought Kimo was a NT not a 3-4 DE
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\r\nibleedBLACKandGOLD81:: I think hoke would make a pretty good 3-4 de
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\r\nBlitzburghD:: But he is intriguing
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\r\nTyranid:: Are any of the practice squad/nfl Europe guys legitimate roster contenders in 05? Roper looked good in practices I think at least early on last year.. and then he dropped off the map..
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\r\nFromPittsburghWithLove:: I think Luis Castillo outta NW would be a perfect fit here. Big and strong and really smart
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\r\nCSyry:: I'm with dale on everett. no Winslow, but he's more than good enough. remember, brock berlin was his qb
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\r\nsteelblitzkrieg:: Yes, but is he as good, and he is a steeler, who would earn a bonus that hurt's are cap.
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\r\nsteelmann58:: count me in for ROPER
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: take him in the 2nd round
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\r\nsteelmann58:: and also
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ChipTheSteelerFan:: he is the next TO
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\r\nsteelmann58:: Castilo
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\r\nCSyry:: what's his height, gfyac
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\r\nSteelerHawg:: 6'3\", IIRC
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\r\nibleedBLACKandGOLD81:: jim/dale - I was late...did someone say that the steelers won't even be making a qualified offer to kendrell bell?
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\r\nCSyry:: get him
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\r\nfury1:: ROPER SHOULD HAVE MADE THE TEAM LAST YEAR, NOT ALONZO
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\r\nGFYAC:: 6'3 205 4.5/40
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\r\nsteelmann58:: Collins has good hands
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: I agree fury
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\r\nsteelmann58:: agree Fury
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\r\nSteelChowder:: year three is usually when they drop the stiffs - - Jackson's probably gone this year
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\r\nCSyry:: I trade down and get Russell if they want him bad enough
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\r\nTyranid:: Speaking of Miami players, how far do you think Parrish will drop? He's freakishly small / fast..
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\r\nsteelblitzkrieg:: Jim/Dale do you really think they will go with James Harrison inside, or did I misinterpret?
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\r\nCSyry:: the guy I really want from Miami isn't draft-eligible: Hester
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GFYAC:: will Russell be there in Round 2 for us?
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\r\nTyranid:: Jim: They had a rookie corner covering SC's fastest receiver.. there wasn't much pool was going to be able to do, play in play out
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: he should be gf
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\r\nsteelmann58:: JIM I forgot about Mankins I also like Kazur from Toledo
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\r\nFromPittsburghWithLove:: Anthony Alabi shouldn't be overlooked
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\r\nsteelmann58:: depends if there a run at wr Russell never last
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\r\nsteelblitzkrieg:: Alabi? Sounds ripe for the Ravens?
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\r\njimwexell:: I like Joel Dresseen. I also like the Boston College TE. His name escapes me. A fifth-rounder. I don't like the Cal TE. I\r\ncan't remember any others. -- My guess is Bettis will be back next season. Just a guess though. He's kept it a secret. Even KDKA, which sent a man to the Pro Bowl, couldn't get an answer out of him tonight.
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\r\nsteelmann58:: hey From great call on alabi
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\r\nSteelChowder:: six WR went in the first round last year - - maybe that means less of a run this year
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\r\nFromPittsburghWithLove:: Anybody think Wayne Hunter would starting on this team instead of Alonzo?
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\r\nsteelmann58:: anyone would have been better than Jackson
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: I do with love
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\r\nFromPittsburghWithLove:: no Julian Battle would have been worse
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\r\nsteelmann58:: anyone concern we might lose reed
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\r\nHarryAWay:: I don't see any team willing to trade up for any player or pay the first overall pick. The 49ers are stuck picking in a year with no clear cut 1st overall.
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\r\nCSyry:: no. he'll be back
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\r\nPGPROUD:: Doesn't Russell have that bad attitude. What he did to the coach during the bowl game was wrong!
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: it was wrong
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: but let Hines mentor him
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\r\nsteelmann58:: people make mistakes that what interviews are for
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\r\nSteelerHawg:: LJ Smith or Jason Witten would def. have been better than Alonzo
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\r\nFromPittsburghWithLove:: speaking of Tight Ends, Anthony Curtis from Portland State might be the best kept secret in all of college football
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\r\nsteelblitzkrieg:: No more Aloslow Sacksnone please.
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\r\nTyranid:: in hindsight.. Randall Gay would have been better than Alonzo..
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\r\nPGPROUD:: witten would look awful nice.
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\r\nBlitzburghD:: Tell 'em, Joe
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\r\nCSyry:: I can't believe hank-freakin-poteat has a super bowl ring
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: and cowher doesn't
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\r\nSteelerHawg:: or josh-freakin'miller
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: and cowher doesn't
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\r\nPGPROUD:: yea, for 3 weeks of work!
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\r\nCSyry:: that playoff game against the browns was the worst performance by a corner of all-time
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: jim miller
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\r\nibleedBLACKandGOLD81:: will somebody please tell me if the steelers are going to make kendrell bell a qualifying offer?
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\r\nCSyry:: he's unrestricted, I believe
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\r\nSteelerHawg:: what is a qualifying offer?
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\r\nGFYAC:: Bell
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: they will. they will offer to hold the door so it doesn't hit him in the ass as he is walking out
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\r\nTyranid:: there was some new England article praising miller's contributions in the playoffs as a vast upgrade from last year, the mere discussion made me sick
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\r\nsteelmann58:: any thought on the Rb from Canada forget his college 
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\r\nGFYAC:: RFA's can get qualifying offers I believe
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\r\nibleedBLACKandGOLD81:: he's restricted isn't he?
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\r\nCSyry:: qualifying offers go to restricted free agents to maintain their rights
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\r\nSteelerHawg:: nah, he's a UFA
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\r\njimwexell:: Forget about Chris Henry. Another bad actor. Steelers would never take a guy who gave a crowd the finger, then was suspended, came back, was suspended again. -- Hampton's fine. I think his loss hurt the production of the ends. Not to dilute what Hoke did because the run defense actually improved. -- Hoke taking Kimo's job? He may be up to it but I doubt Cowher would pull that trigger. -- Where's Dirt? Tell him I just got a Neko Case bootleg. It just came on my CD shuffle. -- WHo is Everett?
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\r\nPGPROUD:: do you remember their punter last year-just terrible
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\r\nSteelerHawg:: I think they should offer hime a 1 yr, maybe for $1 mil
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\r\nsteelmann58:: chip if the door hits him will he go on ir for 2005
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\r\nGFYAC:: players who finish their 3rd year and their contract is up then the Team has an option of offer them Qualifying offers
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\r\nDaleLolley:: Everett is the Miami TE
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\r\nSteelCitySports:: Explanation of Free Agency --- 
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: hahahaha (steelmann) he would then want an injury settlement
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\r\nSteelerHawg:: I always call them 'tenders'
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\r\nsteelmann58:: I wonder if reed will get an outside offer from maybe the jets
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\r\nGFYAC:: Tenders right
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\r\nsteelmann58:: lol chip
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\r\nGFYAC:: Reed should stay
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\r\nTyranid:: will they give him a minimum tender? (reed that is)
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\r\nCSyry:: I think reed's comfortable here. I can't see him leaving unless he gets a ridiculous offer
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\r\nDaleLolley:: They'll at least go mid-level on Reed
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\r\nGFYAC:: if they do the Steelers will get no compensation for him right
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\r\nsteelmann58:: Jim who was the beat writer that you talked about in the blog
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\r\nSteelerHawg:: hopefully they get something long-term worked out afterwards ... $1.3 (or whatever it is this year) is steep for a K, no?
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\r\nsteelblitzkrieg:: CS a kicker is comfortable in Heinz, that's an oxymoron.
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\r\nGFYAC:: Gardoki makes about that much
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\r\nCSyry:: no doubt about that
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\r\nSteelerHawg:: if they mid-level him , it'd take a first
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\r\nSteelerHawg:: to sign him away
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\r\nTyranid:: he hit a lot of big kicks down the road.. I just remember the Jacksonville\r\ngame..
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\r\nsteelmann58:: yes if reed leaves we get nothing
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\r\njimwexell:: The Europe guys aren't really contenders. That's a meat-grinder. Roper definitely has a shot. You also have to like Walter Young, at least for a look. -- Oh, everett the Miami TE. I'm not buying. -- J.R. Russell is a stud with a horrible attitude. Another me-me-me receiver. Man, these guys make me long for the days\r\nfor Plax. 
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\r\nSteelerHawg:: Gardocki does, & that hurts, IMO. He's never had a punt blocked\r\nthough
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GFYAC:: if it is the low Tender
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\r\nBlitzburghD:: The ass-beat writer was DiPaola
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: dale and wex, do you think the Steelers would take a chance on a project like Larry Brackins? HE played at a community college
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\r\nBlitzburghD:: Scrub
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\r\nDaleLolley:: The players who are in their plans are the ones they didn't send to Europe.
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\r\nsteelmann58:: walter young a tall wr but is he a possion guy also
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\r\nHarryAWay:: I'd have to think the Steelers offer Reed a long term deal prior to free agency
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\r\nCSyry:: steelers/patriots opener on mnf. could it be?
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: I hope not. I hate MNF
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\r\nsteelmann58:: cool that means they are given Burr one last start
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\r\nSteelPatrick:: I dunno what is worse now: Patriots Super Bowl Champs or the WWE.
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\r\nCSyry:: the former
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\r\nsteelmann58:: and Iiorio the long snapper
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\r\nSteelerHawg:: someone said the SB champ usually opens at home ... the Steeler/NE game is in Pitt again next year
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\r\nDaleLolley:: You couldn't possibly hate MNF like the writers do.
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\r\nGFYAC:: Steeler extension...Ward, Hampton, Reed, Foote, ARE, Hope..in that order
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\r\nTyranid:: so is it unusual to not hear any chatter about extensions yet? or is that usually done after the draft?
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\r\nSteelPatrick:: hmmm...3 1st rounders.
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\r\nBlitzburghD:: Same here, Chip
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\r\nsteelmann58:: what about Duff from ND
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\r\nDaleLolley:: I like Duff from ND. Nice player
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\r\nGFYAC:: Vontez??
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\r\nsteelmann58:: yes is he a cb'
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\r\nSteelPatrick:: one is ours, one from Plax and one if some team is crazy enough to sign Jeff Reed when he is signed mid-level
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\r\nCSyry:: ward, hampton, and reed. hopefully burress stays, only because porter will be expensive and there is nobody better out there
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: I hate the announcers. I hate the sideline reporter and I hate having to stay up past 12:30 am to watch the Steelers, then turn around\r\nand get up at 4:30 am
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\r\nSteelerHawg:: move to the MST zone, games over by 10:30!!!
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\r\nDaleLolley:: I mean I like Tuck from ND. Not Duff.
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\r\nSteelPatrick:: Duff Beer
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\r\nBlitzburghD:: MNF kicked my ass when I had the Tuesday slot
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\r\nsteelmann58:: did anyone notice during allot of games it seemed the announcers almost rooting\r\nagainst us
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: Then it is worse when you stay up and the Steelers lose
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\r\nCSyry:: the two jets games come to mind
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\r\nCSyry:: phil simms was pulling for ny hard
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\r\nBlitzburghD:: brb
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\r\nSteelerHawg:: phill simms can pull . .... ah nevermind
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\r\nTyranid:: It was nice to see Marino root for the steelers
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\r\nsteelmann58:: tuck a pass rushing de
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\r\nCSyry:: I could have phrased that better
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\r\nDaleLolley:: Tuck an OLB
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\r\nDaleLolley:: and situational guy as a rookie
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: tuck would be a nice pickup
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\r\nFromPittsburghWithLove:: Tuck would have to be in the 1st round
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\r\nFromPittsburghWithLove:: no thanks
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\r\nsteelmann58:: could use him as a pass rusher right away
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\r\nFromPittsburghWithLove:: this sounds similar to something...
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\r\nSteelPatrick:: 9 Steelers in the Pro Bowl...that is pretty good isn't it??
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\r\nDaleLolley:: Tuck will be a third rounder.
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\r\nSteelPatrick:: I wonder if there will be a 10th....
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\r\nSteelerHawg:: until it's time to add in the pro bowl bonuses to the salary cap
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\r\nibleedBLACKandGOLD81:: Justin Tuck?
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\r\nDaleLolley:: Too small to play end. Not enough teams playing the 3-4 yet.
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\r\nsteelmann58:: them if he there it might be worth it
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: Only if you put a hit out on some players Patrick
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\r\njimwexell:: I think James Harrison is strictly an OLB, but others disagree so I'm keeping my opinion open. -- Roscoe Parrish is lightning. Won't get out of the second round. -- Steelman, I watched Kazur closely in his bowl game and didn';t like him. No offense :-) -- Boy,. the 49ers should trade the No. 1 pick. I think the most exciting athlete in the draft is Braylon Edwards, and you hate to take a WR No. 1. I think the 49ers have to take Rodgers. I like him better after watching his personality in the skills competition. -- I think the Browns will draft Charlie Frye. They won't pass on another Ohio kid. -- I gotta believe Alonzo's gone. --- Hello in left field. I don't know Wayne Hunter. -- Yes, kashetta. I like him as a fifth=-round H-back type. -- Don't know any Portland State or Community College players. -- Or Aloslow Sacsnone -- Kendrell Bell is an unrestricted FA. No tenders are made.
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\r\nHarryAWay:: It's nice to see them respected but not the bonus counting against the salary cap.
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\r\nsteelblitzkrieg:: 9 PB players is allot of cap space eaten up next year.
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\r\nHarryAWay:: I thought Kazur played well during the Shrine Bowl week from all reports
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\r\nFromPittsburghWithLove:: You really think Tuck will be 3rd round? I'm hearing late first early2nd...
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\r\nsteelmann58:: Jim thanks for the reply no offense taken
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\r\nTyranid:: have you guys seen Manuel White from UCLA? What round do you think he will go.. and is he strictly a FB in the NFL?
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: Wex, you almost got it right. The Browns will take an Ohio player, but it won't be Frye. It will be Maurice Clarrett.
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: LOL
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\r\nFromPittsburghWithLove:: Maurice tinks Cowher would understand him
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\r\nSteelerHawg:: not w/Savage there
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\r\nFromPittsburghWithLove:: thinks*
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\r\nSteelCitySports:: What about Khalif Barnes ?
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\r\nsteelblitzkrieg:: Sorry Jim Alonzo Jackson = Alonslow Sacksnone
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\r\nsteelmann58:: collins the miss wr sent to Europe should be watched
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\r\nSteelerHawg:: Savage/Crennle should turn that thing around .... not tomorrow, but someday .... I miss Butch already...
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\r\nDaleLolley:: Barnes won't be available.
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\r\nSteelPatrick:: Whichever NFL Europe team has the most Steelers is gonna be my favorite team.
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\r\nFromPittsburghWithLove:: David Baas would be a nice pick
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\r\nFromPittsburghWithLove:: man he's nasty
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\r\nSteelPatrick:: There is too many German teams in NFLEurope
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\r\nibleedBLACKandGOLD81:: I think so too but we won't be able to get him 2nd round
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\r\nTyranid:: baas isn't all that fast though.. if you need him to pull or block down field
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\r\nCSyry:: who will be targets for restructuring their cap number
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: Patrick, almost all the teams are in Germany now
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\r\nibleedBLACKandGOLD81:: he could replace hartings next year at center then he won't be pulling much
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\r\nsteelmann58:: miller or Williamson or brown are my 1st round targets
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: cya dale
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\r\nTyranid:: cya dale, thanks
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\r\nSteelCitySports:: Thanks Dale
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\r\nibleedBLACKandGOLD81:: bye dale
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\r\nSteelPatrick:: Why Germany?? does Germany like football?
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\r\nsteelblitzkrieg:: Later Dale.
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: Wex, I just PM'd you some info on Brackins
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\r\nCSyry:: later dale
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: I guess it is more popular there
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\r\nOrius:: How about either of the WVU boys.........KayJay Harris or the WR?
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\r\nSteelPatrick:: might as well be the GFL\\
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\r\nSteelerHawg:: later dale
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: I agree Patrick
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\r\nibleedBLACKandGOLD81:: anyone think colclough is going to be starting next year?
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: yes
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\r\nFromPittsburghWithLove:: tep
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\r\nFromPittsburghWithLove:: yep*
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\r\nsteelmann58:: thanks dale
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\r\nSteelPatrick:: I guess the other countries dont like USA and NFL enough to have a NFLE team.
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\r\nSteelPatrick:: Why is Taglibue so obsessed with getting a NFL team in LA??
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: the 2nd biggest market.
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\r\nfury1:: MONEY
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: money
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\r\njimwexell:: steelman, Jerry DiPaola. --- Another potential RFA loss is Keisel -- seventh-round compensation. Then again, they'll have the opportunity to match. -- Not sure about Myron Cope. I would assume he'll be back. I do know neither side wants to fire him and have a Bob Prince PR fiasco on their hands. -- I do not\r\nremember Manuel White. -- I liked what I saw of Fred Gibson, but I don't know enough about him. The Ga. player I liked was the kid who pushed Antaj Hawthorn around in the bowl game -- Max Jean-Gilles, but he didn't come out like he was supposed to. He reminded me of James Harrison,l a smaller guy who pushed people every which way. -- I love Khalif Barnes. Top-notch LT, will be in the league for 12 years.
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\r\nibleedBLACKandGOLD81:: I don't know but it might be the los angeles colts in the next couple years if indy doesn't get a new stadium
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\r\nSteelPatrick:: Canada and Mexico would mess up the divisions
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: that is why they have preseason games there
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: well one reason why
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\r\njimwexell:: Jeff Hartings is probably the 
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\r\nTyranid:: If we could get a guy like parrish in the 2nd round to stretch the field that would be quite amazing.. I'd love to see how New England would cover him 
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\r\nSteelPatrick:: do the Fans in LA even want a team in LA??
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\r\njimwexell:: Hartings would probably be the guy to renegotiate.
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\r\nSteelerHawg:: later sbk
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\r\nTyranid:: not really.. they hate traffic.. and are very bitter about the raiders leaving
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\r\nSteelPatrick:: Didn't the Raiders and Rams in LA moved away cuz they werent making any money in LA?
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\r\nsteelmann58:: I agree Jim Hartings seems like a fair guy
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\r\nSteelerHawg:: Wex - will he be asked to take a Bettis/Bruener cut (perhaps not to that\r\nextreme), or salary to bonus renociation?
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: cya blitzkrieg
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\r\nibleedBLACKandGOLD81:: there wasn't a big market there for the rams and I heard the raiders move there was always only temporary but that could be wrong
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\r\nsteelmann58:: I have to believe if Bettis stays they won't have to draft a rb
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\r\nFromPittsburghWithLove:: you draft a RB regardless if Bettis stays
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\r\nSteelPatrick:: L.A. Colts hhmmmm.. L.A. Vikings.....hmmmm.....Mexico City Steelers...LOL
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\r\nsteelmann58:: Jim could haynes be a fa loss
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: Parrish is too small. 5'9 175
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\r\njimwexell:: Orius, I love Kay Jay Harris -- third-round, fourth-round steal; Chris Henry will play elsewhere because of his bad attitude and he will probably burn the Steelers some day. -- I\r\nthink Colclough will start next year. I(
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\r\nTyranid:: Haynes is a RFA right?
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\r\nibleedBLACKandGOLD81:: I really really hope we don't give up haynes
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\r\njimwexell:: I'm the PFW mole.
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\r\nfsafety:: to many good backs this year to pass on one of them 
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\r\nFromPittsburghWithLove:: Harris would be a great pick in the third
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\r\nSteelPatrick:: Any Bus types in the Draft??
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\r\nsteelmann58:: harris is kind old though at 26
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\r\nFromPittsburghWithLove:: Brandon Jacobs
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: Wait until the 4th for a RB
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\r\nTyranid:: Noah Herron?
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\r\nFromPittsburghWithLove:: Herron isn't that big
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\r\nOrius:: Thanks Jim!
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\r\nSteelPatrick:: I don't want a skinny minny at HB, I want a Big Fat Fast dude who would make Ray Lewis cry.
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: we missed out on Greg Jones
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: last year
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\r\njimwexell:: I would assume they'd simply give hartings some kind of bonus and he'd extend. Kinda difficult to ask a Pro Bowler to take a pay cut.
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\r\nSteelPatrick:: We should trade for Greg Jones
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\r\nSteelCitySports:: Patrick the only person like that is Ray-Rays MOMMA 
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\r\nSteelPatrick:: oooo
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\r\nTyranid:: Ray Lewis should be blocked by the FB or a OG.. its the safeties, etc.. that the big tailback would be bruising ..
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\r\nSteelPatrick:: that is cold
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\r\nsteelmann58:: I have to believe what Jim was saying they have a player targeted for day 2
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\r\njimwexell:: Haynes would be a restricted free agent. They'd have the chance to match any offer or take the fifth-rounder. The only guy who will get a mid-level tender is probably Reed.
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\r\nSteelPatrick:: (insert Yo Momma Is SO Fat joke here)
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\r\nSteelerHawg:: thx Wex - I was thinking the same. That cut's gonna hurt when it happens, tho...
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\r\nSteelPatrick:: IS Matt Jones THE guy the Steelers want?
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: I hope not
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\r\nCSyry:: could aaron smith take another pay cut
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\r\nFromPittsburghWithLove:: I'd rather get Marshall
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: smith doesn't take pay cuts, they turn his base into bonus and push the hit back
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\r\njimwexell:: Patrick, keep your eye on Nehemiah Broughton of the Citadel. He played FB in the Senior Bowl but is a 250-pound tailback. Fifth round.
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\r\nSteelerHawg:: only Bettis & Bruener have taken actual 'cuts', IIRC
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\r\nSteelPatrick:: Did Belicheck really say that Aaron Smith is THE best DE in NFL and that Farrior is greater than Ray Ray??
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\r\nFromPittsburghWithLove:: Jonathan Jackson outta Oklahoma will be a steal, kid is an athlete
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\r\nSteelPatrick:: Thanks Jim. Sounds like a mouthful
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\r\nTyranid:: Belicheck always heaps the praise onto the opponents he faces.. its like salt in the wound..
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\r\nSteelPatrick:: Citadel. Sounds like a bank
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: or a fort
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\r\njimwexell:: Matt Jones was interviewed by the Steelers at the Senior Bowl,l second day,l but I wasn't real impressed with his performance. Mid rounder.
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\r\nsteelmann58:: Jim that the guy you have liked before
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\r\nCSyry:: slow
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\r\nCSyry:: holds a lot
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\r\njimwexell:: Yes, that was the guy I* liked. And yes I like Dustin Fox. Physical. In the game I watched he looked fast enough.
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\r\nTyranid:: None of the backs seemed to get anywhere in the senior bowl except for herron on that long pass at the end and sproles here and there.. is it just that the offensive lines weren't all that cohesive, or does the talent really drop off at tailback after the 3 juggernauts in the 1st round?
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\r\njimwexell:: I really like Sproles, but the Steelers already have their change-up speed ball.
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: Hi CA how are you
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\r\nSteelPatrick:: How about Ohio State K Ted...err Mike Nugent
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\r\nChipTheSteelerFan:: maybe if they lose Reed
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\r\nibleedBLACKandGOLD81:: Jim - so who's your pick on who the steelers take first round?
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\r\nSteelerHawg:: Nugent is better than Kaeding, will he go early 3rd? If so, we should say no
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\r\nibleedBLACKandGOLD81:: we need a shutdown corner for sure
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\r\njimwexell:: Well, we're talking kickers. I guess it's a good time to roll on outta here. Thanks for keeping it lively fellas. And my prediction at this point is Heath Miller. It'll probably change a couple of times though.
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