Q&A: John Mitchell

It's been a big year for Steelers defensive line coach John Mitchell. He was inducted into the Mobile Sports Hall of Fame and was promoted to assistant head coach by Steelers Coach Mike Tomlin. Mitchell granted this extensive interview on Tuesday:

John Mitchell, assistant head coach, Pittsburgh Steelers

Q: I read the story in which you – while you were with the Arkansas coaching staff – went to see Bear Bryant and he called you up into his tower in 1980, and how it brought tears to your eyes. You said it made you feel like "one of Bear's boys." Does this promotion by any chance fall into the same realm with your feelings?

A: No, I don't think that's in the same realm. In the National Football League you want to come in and you want to do a good job and you sort of let the chips fall where they may. There are a lot of good coaches in the NFL who never get any recognition for the job they do. I've got a lot of friends. It's an honor for me and I'm humbled by it and I'm just going to try to do the job that I've always done, stay in the background, and do the best I can do.

Q: That trip up that tower, is that still the greatest moment in your football career?

A: Yes. In college football now, you don't have the Woody Hayes, you don't have the Bear Bryants, the Tom Osbornes, guys who are really dedicated to the game and are dedicated to getting young men better, not just ready to play football. I think everybody who plays for those coaches – and those I didn't name – they have that special bond, and I had that special bond with Coach Bryant and I truly feel it. If I hadn't played for him, there's no telling where I would be. He made a man out of me. He made me open my eyes and see things as they are. As a football coach, everything I do is related back to him in some fashion.

Q: Among other firsts, you were the first African-American to play for Bear Bryant. The racial barriers that you broke, did you realize at the time how important they were and how difficult that was, or in looking back is it more impressive on paper?

A: I think when you're the first anything it's probably more impressive on paper. When I went to Alabama, I went there for two reasons: I went there to get a good education and hoped that I could play football, because growing up in Mobile I listened to Alabama on the radio on Saturday afternoon. If they played on Saturday night, I caught them then. But growing up in the South that time, in Alabama, that's all you heard about was Alabama. Coach Bryant in the sixties won three national championships. Auburn was down the road, but they didn't have the success that Alabama had, so as a kid, at that time, taking color out of the equation, you wanted to go to Alabama because that's where the best players were, and you wanted to see if you could compete there. Coming out of high school there was no way I could've competed there, so I think the best thing for me was when I went to junior college, where I got bigger and stronger and kind of understood the game a little bit better.

Q: Did you encounter racial problems at Alabama?

A: No, no. When I went to Alabama my roommate was a white guy, and Bobby Stamford, we're the best of friends right now. We've been friends since then. And it was the first time in the history of the athletic department -- and maybe at that time in the school -- that an African-American and a white guy roomed together. We hit it off real well. Bobby was from south Georgia; I was from south Alabama. We got along really well.

Q: You're making it sound as if your life has been a dream.

A: You know, when I tell people that they don't believe it. I've had a lot of people ask, ‘You mean you went to Alabama in the early seventies and you didn't have any problems?' And I tell them, had anybody beside Coach Bryant been there, I probably would've had a lot of problems, because Coach Bryant was not going to let that happen. That's one thing he promised me and my mom and my father when we went up there for our visit. He said, ‘If you have a problem, if you come to me and let me deal with it before you go to the press, I'll take care of it.' And I never had a problem because I think the players were more afraid of him than me (laughs).

Q: So, you went to ask him for help getting your Masters degree, and he offered you a coaching job, right?

A: Yeah. He offered me the job.

Q: Did you ever get the Masters?

A: No, no, no, no. After my first three years, I really didn't enjoy coaching and I was going to give it one more year. And the fourth year there, I don't know if a light went on, but I got it. You know, just because you play a game don't make you smart enough to coach it. And after the fourth year there, things picked up and I started enjoying it and I said, hey, this ain't bad. That's what happened. But after the fourth year I was going to go back to school. I felt like I was still young enough to do it, but I enjoyed coaching so much I just forgot about it.

Q: What would you say you pass along, from Coach Bryant, to the guys you coach now?

A: Never quit. Always stay in there and fight. I mean, tomorrow's another day. You might not have a great day today, but tomorrow is another day so you've got a chance every day to prove yourself. And that's what Coach Bryant did; he gave me an opportunity there every day.

Q: So, what goes into your new job title?

A: I'm going to help Mike with all of the small things he encounters from day to day as a head coach. I'm going to take those over, you know, the little small problems. If there's something that I feel he needs to get involved with, I'll take it to him. But, you know, I'll be a liaison between the training room, the cafeteria, the weight room, a lot of little things like that. Coaches now, we check curfew. So a lot of little things that can keep his mind focused on the big picture, those little headaches, they're going to become my headaches (laughs). No, I'll go to Mike and say, hey, here's a situation I think you need to address, or whatever. Since I've been here so long, he's come to me at times and said, ‘Well, what about this situation? How did we deal with this in the past?' And you know I just tell him what happened in the past and how we dealt with it. As assistant head coach, yeah, it's a title, but my responsibility is to get those guys ready to play on Sunday, because with this title, if they're not ready to play it's not going to mean a hill of beans, so it's not going to change.

Q: You've obviously been successful in getting your defensive linemen ready to play on Sundays. Where does that rank? How much pride do you take in the success your defensive line has had since you've been here?

A: I've got good people. That's the thing in pro ball, there are a lot of good players out there but there are not a lot of good people. I mean, I don't have to coach Aaron Smith because he's been here. If I turn my back, Aaron knows the drill. Casey Hampton has been with me long enough now. Brett Keisel, Chris Hoke, Travis Kirschke and those type of guys, they've got pride in themselves. They want to be better. All I do is try to lead them in the right direction. But these guys have been here so long, I told them the other day it's a pleasure for me to coach them. I don't know if it's a pleasure for them to play for me, but it's a pleasure to coach them because these guys, I know what they're going to do. I don't have to raise my voice. They're good guys and they want to get better, so I have a small hand in where they are today; very small.

Q: Do you hear them using some of your lines on some of the younger players?

A: Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah -- Aaron Smith, yeah, and Brett and Casey and Hokie. And what they do, my guys are not a bunch of guys who are going to harass the young guys. They help them. They show them how to watch tape. And what I like about them, they'll say, ‘Well, this is what coach expects of you. This is the way we do it here.' So it makes me feel good that they are a part of the thing that I tried to teach them, and they bought into it so they can pass it on to those guys. So, 95 (Ryan McBean) and 67 (Derrick Jones), if they're here for a period of time, they can say, ‘This is the way I learned it. I learned it from Aaron Smith and Brett Keisel.' That's the good thing about coaching, when you get guys who buy into what you're trying to teach them.

Q: If they go into the roots of this, they've learned it from Bear Bryant.

A: Oh, they don't know that, but, yeah. And I tell them that, that this is what Coach Bryant taught me and I want to pass it on to you. That's the sad thing about college football right now. Everybody's so wrapped up in winning they're not willing to take time out to teach these guys how to grow up and be men, how to take on responsibility. And you can see it on the field with Aaron Smith; you can see it on the field with Brett Keisel. And this goes off the field into their personal life. They want to be the best, not only football players, but the best men they can be.

Q: I remember you joked to me one time when I asked you how much longer you're going to do this, and you answered me with a question: How many years does Aaron Smith have left on his contract? But you're kind of moving up the corporate ladder now. Do you have further ambitions?

A: No. I'm 55, so, you know, I understand that age is a factor. If I was 45, I would say yes. But I don't have an ego. I just want to continue to do what we're doing. Let me do what I'm doing, hope this team can win, and go from there. When you win, everybody gets what they want. I just want to be a part of a team that's going to be successful. And I refer to Dick Hoak. Dick Hoak, as a coach, I had a lot of respect for him. He came to work every day; he did his job; he had no ego; his players played hard week in, week out, year in, year out; and he coached till he got tired of it and he walked away from the game. That's what I want to do.

Q: Were you coaching the Birmingham Stallions in the USFL when Cliff Stoudt came back to Pittsburgh?

A: Yeah, I was there.

Q: What was that fiasco like?

A: It was a great game. That day was cold. I can remember them throwing snowballs at Cliff Stoudt coming out of the South end zone down there. Cliff was a good player and we had Jimmy Smith, who had played here. We had two good players.

Q: And you were at Cleveland with the Browns before you came here. What do you remember about coming to Pittsburgh?

A: It was really funny, when I was at Cleveland, we never lost to Pittsburgh at home. And when I came here, for quite a few years we never lost to Cleveland at home.

Q: So, going through those years, did you ever imagine you'd end up in Pittsburgh and become the No. 2 man and become something of an icon?

A: I don't know about an icon. I just want to do my job. I mean, I've been here 14 years and I never thought I would be here 14 years. I learned a lot of football from Coach (Bill) Cowher and I'm learning a lot of football from Dick LeBeau, so the older you get, you realize what's the most important thing in your life. Like I said, Bill was great to me. He was a hard worker, and a lot of people saw him in a different light, but I learned a lot of football from him and I'm learning a lot more from Dick LeBeau.


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\r\n\r\n\r\nJohn Mitchell, assistant head coach, Pittsburgh Steelers\r\n\r\n \r\n\r\n

Q: I read the story in which you – while you were with the Arkansas coaching staff – went to see Bear Bryant and he called you up into his tower in 1980, and how it brought tears to your eyes. You said it made you feel like \"one of Bear's boys.\" Does this promotion by any chance fall into the same realm with your feelings?\r\n\r\n \r\n\r\n

A: No, I don't think that's in the same realm. In the National Football League you want to come in and you want to do a good job and you sort of let the chips fall where they may. There are a lot of good coaches in the NFL who never get any recognition for the job they do. I've got a lot of friends. It's an honor for me and I'm humbled by it and I'm just going to try to do the job that I've always done, stay in the background, and do the best I can do.\r\n\r\n \r\n\r\n

Q: That trip up that tower, is that still the greatest moment in your football career?\r\n\r\n \r\n\r\n

A: Yes. In college football now, you don't have the Woody Hayes, you don't have the Bear Bryants, the Tom Osbornes, guys who are really dedicated to the game and are dedicated to getting young men better, not just ready to play football. I think everybody who plays for those coaches – and those I didn't name – they have that special bond, and I had that special bond with Coach Bryant and I truly feel it. If I hadn't played for him, there's no telling where I would be. He made a man out of me. He made me open my eyes and see things as they are. As a football coach, everything I do is related back to him in some fashion.\r\n\r\n \r\n\r\n

Q: Among other firsts, you were the first African-American to play for Bear Bryant. The racial barriers that you broke, did you realize at the time how important they were and how difficult that was, or in looking back is it more impressive on paper?\r\n\r\n \r\n\r\n

A: I think when you're the first anything it's probably more impressive on paper. When I went to Alabama, I went there for two reasons: I went there to get a good education and hoped that I could play football, because growing up in Mobile I listened to Alabama on the radio on Saturday afternoon. If they played on Saturday night, I caught them then. But growing up in the South that time, in Alabama, that's all you heard about was Alabama. Coach Bryant in the sixties won three national championships. Auburn was down the road, but they didn't have the success that Alabama had, so as a kid, at that time, taking color out of the equation, you wanted to go to Alabama because that's where the best players were, and you wanted to see if you could compete there. Coming out of high school there was no way I could've competed there, so I think the best thing for me was when I went to junior college, where I got bigger and stronger and kind of understood the game a little bit better.\r\n\r\n \r\n\r\n

Q: Did you encounter racial problems at Alabama?\r\n\r\n \r\n\r\n

A: No, no. When I went to Alabama my roommate was a white guy, and Bobby Stamford, we're the best of friends right now. We've been friends since then. And it was the first time in the history of the athletic department -- and maybe at that time in the school -- that an African-American and a white guy roomed together. We hit it off real well. Bobby was from south Georgia; I was from south Alabama. We got along really well.\r\n\r\n \r\n\r\n

Q: You're making it sound as if your life has been a dream.\r\n\r\n \r\n\r\n

A: You know, when I tell people that they don't believe it. I've had a lot of people ask, ‘You mean you went to Alabama in the early seventies and you didn't have any problems?' And I tell them, had anybody beside Coach Bryant been there, I probably would've had a lot of problems, because Coach Bryant was not going to let that happen. That's one thing he promised me and my mom and my father when we went up there for our visit. He said, ‘If you have a problem, if you come to me and let me deal with it before you go to the press, I'll take care of it.' And I never had a problem because I think the players were more afraid of him than me (laughs).\r\n\r\n \r\n\r\n

Q: So, you went to ask him for help getting your Masters degree, and he offered you a coaching job, right?\r\n\r\n \r\n\r\n

A: Yeah. He offered me the job.\r\n\r\n \r\n\r\n

Q: Did you ever get the Masters?\r\n\r\n \r\n\r\n

A: No, no, no, no. After my first three years, I really didn't enjoy coaching and I was going to give it one more year. And the fourth year there, I don't know if a light went on, but I got it. You know, just because you play a game don't make you smart enough to coach it. And after the fourth year there, things picked up and I started enjoying it and I said, hey, this ain't bad. That's what happened. But after the fourth year I was going to go back to school. I felt like I was still young enough to do it, but I enjoyed coaching so much I just forgot about it.\r\n\r\n \r\n\r\n

Q: What would you say you pass along, from Coach Bryant, to the guys you coach now?\r\n\r\n \r\n\r\n

A: Never quit. Always stay in there and fight. I mean, tomorrow's another day. You might not have a great day today, but tomorrow is another day so you've got a chance every day to prove yourself. And that's what Coach Bryant did; he gave me an opportunity there every day.\r\n\r\n \r\n\r\n

Q: So, what goes into your new job title?\r\n\r\n \r\n\r\n

A: I'm going to help Mike with all of the small things he encounters from day to day as a head coach. I'm going to take those over, you know, the little small problems. If there's something that I feel he needs to get involved with, I'll take it to him. But, you know, I'll be a liaison between the training room, the cafeteria, the weight room, a lot of little things like that. Coaches now, we check curfew. So a lot of little things that can keep his mind focused on the big picture, those little headaches, they're going to become my headaches (laughs). No, I'll go to Mike and say, hey, here's a situation I think you need to address, or whatever. Since I've been here so long, he's come to me at times and said, ‘Well, what about this situation? How did we deal with this in the past?' And you know I just tell him what happened in the past and how we dealt with it. As assistant head coach, yeah, it's a title, but my responsibility is to get those guys ready to play on Sunday, because with this title, if they're not ready to play it's not going to mean a hill of beans, so it's not going to change.\r\n\r\n \r\n\r\n

Q: You've obviously been successful in getting your defensive linemen ready to play on Sundays. Where does that rank? How much pride do you take in the success your defensive line has had since you've been here?\r\n\r\n \r\n\r\n

A: I've got good people. That's the thing in pro ball, there are a lot of good players out there but there are not a lot of good people. I mean, I don't have to coach Aaron Smith because he's been here. If I turn my back, Aaron knows the drill. Casey Hampton has been with me long enough now. Brett Keisel, Chris Hoke, Travis Kirschke and those type of guys, they've got pride in themselves. They want to be better. All I do is try to lead them in the right direction. But these guys have been here so long, I told them the other day it's a pleasure for me to coach them. I don't know if it's a pleasure for them to play for me, but it's a pleasure to coach them because these guys, I know what they're going to do. I don't have to raise my voice. They're good guys and they want to get better, so I have a small hand in where they are today; very small.\r\n\r\n \r\n\r\n

Q: Do you hear them using some of your lines on some of the younger players?\r\n\r\n \r\n\r\n

A: Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah -- Aaron Smith, yeah, and Brett and Casey and Hokie. And what they do, my guys are not a bunch of guys who are going to harass the young guys. They help them. They show them how to watch tape. And what I like about them, they'll say, ‘Well, this is what coach expects of you. This is the way we do it here.' So it makes me feel good that they are a part of the thing that I tried to teach them, and they bought into it so they can pass it on to those guys. So, 95 (Ryan McBean) and 67 (Derrick Jones), if they're here for a period of time, they can say, ‘This is the way I learned it. I learned it from Aaron Smith and Brett Keisel.' That's the good thing about coaching, when you get guys who buy into what you're trying to teach them.\r\n\r\n \r\n\r\n

Q: If they go into the roots of this, they've learned it from Bear Bryant.\r\n\r\n \r\n\r\n

A: Oh, they don't know that, but, yeah. And I tell them that, that this is what Coach Bryant taught me and I want to pass it on to you. That's the sad thing about college football right now. Everybody's so wrapped up in winning they're not willing to take time out to teach these guys how to grow up and be men, how to take on responsibility. And you can see it on the field with Aaron Smith; you can see it on the field with Brett Keisel. And this goes off the field into their personal life. They want to be the best, not only football players, but the best men they can be.\r\n\r\n \r\n\r\n

Q: I remember you joked to me one time when I asked you how much longer you're going to do this, and you answered me with a question: How many years does Aaron Smith have left on his contract? But you're kind of moving up the corporate ladder now. Do you have further ambitions?\r\n\r\n \r\n\r\n

A: No. I'm 55, so, you know, I understand that age is a factor. If I was 45, I would say yes. But I don't have an ego. I just want to continue to do what we're doing. Let me do what I'm doing, hope this team can win, and go from there. When you win, everybody gets what they want. I just want to be a part of a team that's going to be successful. And I refer to Dick Hoak. Dick Hoak, as a coach, I had a lot of respect for him. He came to work every day; he did his job; he had no ego; his players played hard week in, week out, year in, year out; and he coached till he got tired of it and he walked away from the game. That's what I want to do.\r\n\r\n \r\n\r\n

Q: Were you coaching the Birmingham Stallions in the USFL when Cliff Stoudt came back to Pittsburgh?\r\n\r\n \r\n\r\n

A: Yeah, I was there.\r\n\r\n \r\n\r\n

Q: What was that fiasco like?\r\n\r\n \r\n\r\n

A: It was a great game. That day was cold. I can remember them throwing snowballs at Cliff Stoudt coming out of the South end zone down there. Cliff was a good player and we had Jimmy Smith, who had played here. We had two good players.\r\n\r\n \r\n\r\n

Q: And you were at Cleveland with the Browns before you came here. What do you remember about coming to Pittsburgh?\r\n\r\n \r\n\r\n

A: It was really funny, when I was at Cleveland, we never lost to Pittsburgh at home. And when I came here, for quite a few years we never lost to Cleveland at home.\r\n\r\n \r\n\r\n

Q: So, going through those years, did you ever imagine you'd end up in Pittsburgh and become the No. 2 man and become something of an icon?\r\n\r\n \r\n\r\n

A: I don't know about an icon. I just want to do my job. I mean, I've been here 14 years and I never thought I would be here 14 years. I learned a lot of football from Coach (Bill) Cowher and I'm learning a lot of football from Dick LeBeau, so the older you get, you realize what's the most important thing in your life. Like I said, Bill was great to me. He was a hard worker, and a lot of people saw him in a different light, but I learned a lot of football from him and I'm learning a lot more from Dick LeBeau. \r\n\r\n

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